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Ok so I've been messing around with my friends nice new codex and I noticed that a Slaanesh list could work the same way I run my GK's, but they seem to potentially be better at it. Comparing strike squads to noise marines, for 1pt extra I get a salvo 2/3 stormbolter that ignores cover and hatred space marines, ouch. Anyway, heres the list I came up with, would this be decent?


HQ

Lucius the Eternal - 165

Daemon Price - mark of slaanesh, wings, gift of mutation, aura of dark glory, power armour - 240

Troops

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, champ w. doom siren and power weapon, veterans of the long war - 274

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, champ w. doom siren and power weapon, veterans of the long war - 274

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, champ w. doom siren and power weapon, veterans of the long war - 274

Fast Attack

Helldrake - 170

Helldrake - 170

Heavy Support

Lascannon pred - 140

Lascannon pred - 140

Total - 1847

Not to sure what to do with lucius, maybe replace him for a lord, but needed to get noise marines as troops and this guy is cool as hell. The helldrakes have a lot of firepower with those autocannons and the s7 zooming vector strike is nice too. Preds are my anti-tank and DP is anti-everything. Plan would be to slog the noise marines in range and let rip with 3 shots each from the sonic blasters making for a massive amount of firepower that ignores cover, while the dp and helldrakes cause as much havoc as possible with the preds for support. Lucius I guess would be attached to the central marine squad.

I wouldn't take lucius in this particular list as he is a close combat character in a shooting list. I guess he could be there to deter units from assaulting or be there as a savior for a unit being assaulted, but he is a duelist/character killer by nature and his only shooting weapon being a doom siren.

I agree with Irishelf, don't take lucius in this list. Or if you want to take him, take him with one of the noise marines sqauds, drop a dude so they all fit in a rhino. they will lose the blast master as well.

Be aware that your Daemon prince will get messed up real quick with only T5. Don't take Aura of Dark glory as he gets a 5++ as standard. Consider also not giving it wings as Slaanesh princes get +3" on their run move anyway, giving you a minimum move of 10" on a bad roll.

Don't mix your noise marine squads. either make them CC with doom siren, power weapon and rhino. Or make them shooty with blastmasters and sonic blasters.

Ok, how about this:

HQ

Chaos Lord - verteran of long war, mark of slaanesh, power wep, plasma pistol, aura of dark glory, gift of mutation - 140

Daemon Price - mark of slaanesh, wings, gift of mutation, power armour - 225

Troops

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 244

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 244

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 244

6 noise marines - 5x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 133

Fast Attack

Helldrake - 170

Helldrake - 170

Heavy Support

Lascannon pred - 140

Lascannon pred - 140

Total - 1850

Figure I'd put the lord in the 6 man squad, still not 100% sure how he fits as there isnt a good shooty lord option that i can see. But I have a few extra boots on the ground, I see what you mean with dropping the wings but FMC's seem too good to pass up, especially seeing what my friends Korne winged DP does in his games.

IMO, Lucius is worth the point cost difference between him and the generic lord, but maybe that's just me. I'd say he's worth to small difference.

I'd drop the preds and take Havoks with Flak missile options and/or obliterators.

If taking a lord, i would put him on a bike with some bikers of slaanesh with the excess icon

Yeah I need lucius or a lord so that i can take the noise marines as troops. As for havocs they are very nice with those flakk missiles but do I really need them with the DP and 2 helldrakes? Could drop a marine from the 6 man squad and get lucius again. Dont know how well bikes would work, not used em since 4th ed, would they work in this list?

The elephant in the room is the daemon prince - or your amusingly apt typo "daemon price"

That mofo is expensive! What does he bring that bikers couldn't? Those slaaneshi bikers hurt - I had the privilege of being on the receiving end of a list like this with bikers.

I'm not going to advocate Havocs with flakk, they're over priced and don't bring anything your heldrakes don't already have.

I can see using las preds, as you might need to break some tanks fast. Personally though Id rather 2 Havoc squads with Autocannons. Thats 16 shots a turn, not to bad since you want shooty.

As for the DP, as it was stated, your wings make him having MoS useless. Drop the wings amd squeeze in The Black Mace. Best weapon for him as he is then STr 8 AP 2 with (unless the weapon screws you) 7 attacks base on the charge, usually though max of 10.

Haha completely missed that! Think I'm tempted with the DP as my friends causes a lot of havoc whenever he uses him against me

Reworked to get in some bikers:

HQ

Chaos Lord - verteran of long war, mark of slaanesh, power wep, plasma pistol, aura of dark glory, gift of mutation, bike - 160

Troops

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 244

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 244

10 noise marines - 1 x blastmaster, 8x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 244

6 noise marines - 5x sonic blaster, veterans of the long war - 133

Fast Attack

5 chaos bikers - icon of excess, marks of slaanesh, vets of the long war, 2x flamers, biker champ w. power wep, gift of mutation - 195

Heldrake - 170

Heldrake - 170

Heavy Support

Lascannon pred - 140

Lascannon pred - 140

Total - 1840

Edit: realised I gave the bike champ gift twice, 10pts to spare now

That's looking pretty nasty.
Maybe take a p-fist for the biker champ instead if you're running the lord in there. It'll provide some anti-tank which means you could drop a pred and take those auto-cannon havocs.

I'd consider giving one of the Drakes a Bale over the Autocannon, that thing is just bad news for any army with 3+ armor, it basically makes your Drake a flying Bane Wolf, that can still go after flyers with the auto hits.

 Garuss Acine wrote:
I'd consider giving one of the Drakes a Bale over the Autocannon, that thing is just bad news for any army with 3+ armor, it basically makes your Drake a flying Bane Wolf, that can still go after flyers with the auto hits.

Definitely worth a baleflamer ( Its a free upgrade choice). The list seems to be coming together nicely with those bikes. I would make your lord/bike champs builds a little different however, maybe give lord the black mace and leave champ as power weap. One of them is gonna have to challenge and depending on the build of the enemy champ/character you want a build on each that counters something different. I wouldnt give the champ a powerfist though as a character that is forced to challenge with an unwieldy weap is a waste of points cause he is gonna die first, especially with mark of slaanesh. I think the only issue with the list is if the enemy has close combat infiltrators or a deep strike to your face, not a lot covering your rear unless you use the bikes as a babysitting squad (not a great option though).

Like the second list a lot. I'd drop the 6th man and put Lucius back in. If I recall he has a Blastmaster while also being better in CC than the Slaan. lord.

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Like the second list a lot. I'd drop the 6th man and put Lucius back in. If I recall he has a Blastmaster while also being better in CC than the Slaan. lord.

Unfortunately Lucius only gets a doom siren. I am however starting to like Lucius more and more with that second list. Have you considered a Close combat unit of chaos space marines or even chosen with Lucius instead of just straight noise marines? M ight have to up the points to 2000 and lose the bikes, but that depends on your playstyle.

Not sure I could get a combat squad as effective with lucius and combat marines in a rhino, numbers would be about the same but I think the bikes would do better. Going up to 2000 maybe but those bikes are nasty. I think lucius would work in a more combat focused army (lots of combat marines etc). If i did go to 2000 I think I'd just fill out that last noise marine squad and give the lord the black mace.