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I've managed to get my hands on some OOP ork trukks, as well as two of the current ork trukks. I'd like to use them both, as the old Trukks are still official minis, but the size difference is pretty big.

What is your attitude towards fielding something old and a bit difference in size?
What is your attitude towards an opponent doing it?

I feel cheesy for having a vehicle half the size of the current one, but as I said it's still an official model so it's leaving me a bit confused. Considering it's completely WYSISYG, I don't think there should be any problems, but I'm unsure.

It's an official GW model, I'd be fine with it.

I don't know if it's true but I heard that you must have the most recent model to use it in an offical GW setting.

Otherwise I don't really see a problem. Personally I wouldn't mind but they seem like they should be used as buggies because they're so small.

I suspect you will have more people going "Cool old school trukks!" then grumbling about being MFAd

Keep our history alive and rolling! If you have old stuff, field it.

Full discloser: I have a few squads of old beakies in a pair of tiny rhinos, and old, lead terminators on small bases, so am a little biased...

Personally im in the "cool old school stuff crowd". One of the reasons im such a fan of gitsplittas awesome PM modeling blog.

I mean, I play to have fun, not play to win. If someone wants to contest a cover save I wouldn't have any problem agreeing to their terms anyways unless it's pretty outlandish

I'd be fine, arnt they the same scale as the scorchas and buggys anyway?
Could always do a gorka morka mob if it bothers you.

Not as though Ork Trukks come out of an STC, there's no reason they shouldn't be different sizes. It's an official model, have at!

 Maenus_Rajhana wrote:
Not as though Ork Trukks come out of an STC, there's no reason they shouldn't be different sizes. It's an official model, have at!

Thats my logic.

No 2 ork vehicles should EVER look alike.

 Eetion wrote:
Could always do a gorka morka mob if it bothers you.

Is that what the oldschool trukk comes from? The guys i got the first ones from said so, but now I see others say they're simply OOP trukks.

I think the Gorka morka set just had an ork 40k trukk that was the current model at the time. The same ork trukk GW sold for 40k

If it's GW I'd be fine

It's no big deal just use them. You can use them for buggies too if you want

 Grey Templar wrote:
I think the Gorka morka set just had an ork 40k trukk that was the current model at the time. The same ork trukk GW sold for 40k

When Gorkamorka was released, the Trukk didn't exist as a 40K unit. It was created for Gorkamorka, and then added into the 40K list in the 3rd edition codex.


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On topic - I don't have a problem with people fielding the old trukk, but I personally use mine as a buggy.

Don't feel bad. I have a friend who only owns these kind of Trukks, because he started playing Orks before the current codex.

You can't be blamed for owning a model that was still sold 5 years ago...

I recently collected all my old ork stuff and painted it, my force has three of those trukks, why? because i already own them and i dont want to spend more money when i have 3 official GW models.

None of my friends has an issue with it.

Is it me or is the old model a bit too... clean cut to be an Ork production though? Surely that has to be a looted imperial cargo hauler with ork bitz added?

Jokes aside I don't think I'd really hear anyone complain about it, it still dies to bolter fire, they don't seem to turn up that often (at least in my meta) and they're still GW, who cares?

Also, I don't think I've ever heard anythign about OOP GW not being allowed at torunaments or other events. The only thing I've heard is that a model must be mounted on at least the size of base it was provided with or intended for which means if you really wanted you could put an ork Boy on a 4' wide base...

 Necroshea wrote:
What is your attitude towards fielding something old and a bit difference in size?
What is your attitude towards an opponent doing it?

Models are models. The only times that I've ever been irritated by someone using older models was one WAAC guy at the local store who specifically bought older rhinos to use as Exorcists, because he could hide two of them side by side behind a lengthwise new rhino, allowing them to shoot over the rhino, but be pretty much immune to return fire from the front arcs.

 DeffDred wrote:
I don't know if it's true but I heard that you must have

Lol. Yeah, people have been _claiming_ that since about the day after the second version of the RTB01 space marines were released. Never been true.

Old school is cool!

I'd let you use them.

Personally, i have a lot of the old rhinos. People are fine with me using them, most react with 'cool old school rhinos' rather than getting nit picky about the size.

There is no "letting" about it. It's a GW model that represents a unit currently still in the game. You don;t even have to go the "counts as" route to use that old model. So it's totally legal under GW's rules for competition and in-store play.

Granted, anyone can just refuse to play you for any reason good or bad. But doing so in tournement would cost them a forfiet and if they did so in a friendly game just because they thought your trukk models were too small/ugly/whatever for their taste then they are an idiiot/TFG and you shold not be playing them anyway.

And yes, old skool is kool.

I don't know if it's true but I heard that you must have the most recent model to use it in an offical GW setting.

That is incorrect, sir. GW tired that once about 15 years ago and it lasted all of two months before they changed the rules back to "any GW model is legal".

 insaniak wrote:

When Gorkamorka was released, the Trukk didn't exist as a 40K unit. It was created for Gorkamorka, and then added into the 40K list in the 3rd edition codex.

Ah, GorkaMorka. I know a lot of ork armies started with that set. I know mine did. GorkaMorka came with 2 trukks, 2 trakks, about 20 orks...$69.99

I have seven of those trukks in my army, and field them with pride.

Point- "Man, those trukks are small!" player grumbles
Counter point- "Yeah I know, they're easy to surround and blow up guys inside." you respond with feigned sadness.

If you think those trukks are small, you should see the orks that came w/ GorkaMorka!

It's a legal, official GW model. If you used the cardboard Ork Dreadnought from the 2nd ed starter set, I'd say the same thing. Bring it on!

I have no problem with it.

 Brother SRM wrote:
It's a legal, official GW model. If you used the cardboard Ork Dreadnought from the 2nd ed starter set, I'd say the same thing. Bring it on!

People keep saying that and it comes up in just about every "is this legal" threda on every GW forum I've ever read, but I honestly never have seen that cut out used. Ever. Even back when I played 2nd edition I never saw any ork player use it.

That being said, you are 100% correct in that it's table legal.

 Chuck_Traynor wrote:
but I honestly never have seen that cut out used. Ever.

This needs to be changed

 Necroshea wrote:

 Chuck_Traynor wrote:
but I honestly never have seen that cut out used. Ever.

This needs to be changed

No, it really doesn't. The cut-out dreadnought was intended to bolster the ork forces for one of the scenarios in the 2nd edition starter set, to even things up a little bit since the set was a little skewed in the marines' favour otherwise. It was never intended to be a playable miniature beyond that, and the fact that people persist in claiming that it is has never failed to amaze me. It's not a miniature. It's a cardboard cutout.

 insaniak wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

 Chuck_Traynor wrote:
but I honestly never have seen that cut out used. Ever.

This needs to be changed

No, it really doesn't. The cut-out dreadnought was intended to bolster the ork forces for one of the scenarios in the 2nd edition starter set, to even things up a little bit since the set was a little skewed in the marines' favour otherwise. It was never intended to be a playable miniature beyond that, and the fact that people persist in claiming that it is has never failed to amaze me. It's not a miniature. It's a cardboard cutout.

I can see it now, custom cardboard dreads everywhere. Put your painting skills to the test.

I would have no problem with these trukks. Personally, I like playing against and just seeing the "old school" models every so often. The only difference in your advantage would be cover saves, and templates scattering off of you. These two items might slightly frustrate me as a player playing against you. But if it is still an official mini, go for it!

 Micah da ork wrote:
I would have no problem with these trukks. Personally, I like playing against and just seeing the "old school" models every so often. The only difference in your advantage would be cover saves, and templates scattering off of you. These two items might slightly frustrate me as a player playing against you. But if it is still an official mini, go for it!

One time I went to a tourny with a rather shamefully assembled leman russ. We're talking chimera treads, leman body, it might have had the actual barrel. Because the proportions were off, I really never argued about things hitting it or anything like that.

In your example, if a blast landed pretty close to me I would simply say it hit and move on. It's not like trukks are supposed to last long anyways.