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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 02:46:31
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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I actually like the zombie tsunami and the tower. Other zombie movies make it look like an average person could survive a zombie apocalypse of they're lucky, but watching the trailer, it made guns look useless against those kinds of numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 03:12:54
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I liked the part where they were climbing up that pipe? That looked pretty cool. But the Zombie wave is still a bit weird to me, as before, Ill wait till DVD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 05:32:06
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Palindrome wrote: Andrew1975 wrote:
The problem isn't the muscles. Zombies don't fatigue, because their brains are working at a very basic level, so we accept superior strength and endurance. The trade off tends to be that this basic brain lacks coordination. Running that fast and climbing takes a great amount of coordination, something zombies are not know for.
Zombies are a complete scientific impossiblity. You can't have it both ways, what ever magic that could actually make zombies could also allow them to do virtually anything. Even surfing, apparently.
Wait .....Zombies are impossible.....but......they seam so plausible!
The point is that the abilities and functions of the WWZ zombie is well documented in two books, if you count the survival guide. So you could make a movie about flying superzombies if you like, just don't title it WWZ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 06:26:09
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If this actually goes down like the movie...first person I trip be Brad Pitt....throw 50 cal cans in back of the MRAP..ensure KingCracker has plenty of water to drink while he's manning the CROWE system (remote control 50 cal)..maybe a bag of Cheeto's but more likely Dorito's. Get in the TC position and slap Whembly on back the helmet yelling "Its the pedal on the right Hero!!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 07:04:29
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Palindrome wrote: Andrew1975 wrote:
The problem isn't the muscles. Zombies don't fatigue, because their brains are working at a very basic level, so we accept superior strength and endurance. The trade off tends to be that this basic brain lacks coordination. Running that fast and climbing takes a great amount of coordination, something zombies are not know for.
Zombies are a complete scientific impossiblity. You can't have it both ways, what ever magic that could actually make zombies could also allow them to do virtually anything. Even surfing, apparently.
It looked interesting, right until the zombie tidal waves and the Zombie Tower ( tm). Fast zombies can work (28 Days Later) but super fast, highly agile zombies just don't.
Ahem.... http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html
All in all, even if zombie invasion happened for real it will be over in a few weeks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 11:02:34
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Oberstleutnant
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Andrew1975 wrote:
Wait .....Zombies are impossible.....but......they seam so plausible!
 well done  for the pointless use of  an  emoticon
You can't argue something from a basis of scientific logic when its completely impossible. Canon or not its gibberish.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 11:04:28
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Palindrome wrote: Andrew1975 wrote:
Wait .....Zombies are impossible.....but......they seam so plausible!
 well done  for the pointless use of  an  emoticon
You can't argue something from a basis of scientific logic when its completely impossible. Canon or not its gibberish.
Which is why Space Marines with multilasers goes over so well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 11:07:29
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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Nothing wrong with multilaser toting Marines. The Imperium is a big place, virtually anything could happen.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 12:11:49
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Palindrome wrote:
Nothing wrong with multilaser toting Marines. The Imperium is a big place, virtually anything could happen.
Even back flipping Terminators and Land Raiders transforming to Razboracks and back?
And let's not forget Shuriken cannons firing bullets....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 12:52:01
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jihadin wrote:If this actually goes down like the movie...first person I trip be Brad Pitt....throw 50 cal cans in back of the MRAP..ensure KingCracker has plenty of water to drink while he's manning the CROWE system (remote control 50 cal)..maybe a bag of Cheeto's but more likely Dorito's. Get in the TC position and slap Whembly on back the helmet yelling "Its the pedal on the right Hero!!"
This sounds excellent. Specially with the inclusion of the Doritos Automatically Appended Next Post: Palindrome wrote: Andrew1975 wrote:
Wait .....Zombies are impossible.....but......they seam so plausible!
 well done  for the pointless use of  an  emoticon
You can't argue something from a basis of scientific logic when its completely impossible. Canon or not its gibberish.
I think your looking a bit too much into what people mean when they say Zombie Apocalypse. Yes we say zombies, but it also really means an apocalyptic scenario, and the zombies are a fun way of talking about something that would really be a terrible experience all around. You sir, need to lighten up. Like a lot. A lot a lot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 14:11:32
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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KingCracker wrote:
I think your looking a bit too much into what people mean when they say Zombie Apocalypse. Yes we say zombies, but it also really means an apocalyptic scenario, and the zombies are a fun way of talking about something that would really be a terrible experience all around. You sir, need to lighten up. Like a lot. A lot a lot
Actually what I object to is the use of 'logic' to dictate exactly what zombies can do when that logic is fatally flawed to begin with. Its far better to just accept them as a plot device and leave it at that.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 15:08:42
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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whembly wrote: In the book, I think they were one of the few bad ass countries who took care of that gak. Them and parts of England, Scotland and Wales. Hell, lots of western Europe. But in particular, go Conwy! I read the book about a week after staying in Conwy for a while and I was thinking...I would have survived that. Nice. Also, I'm disappointed because the movie doesn't look like it'll have the university stuff that is mentioned in the book, some crazy chick holding a wall of the uni with a double-bladed staff and singing some dirge while she does so...sounds epic. But a part of my memory is telling me that was part of a propaganda movie...still, very cool and would have looked awesome as a 'snippet of the movie shown to people to boost morale' or something
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 19:03:24
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Palindrome wrote: KingCracker wrote:
I think your looking a bit too much into what people mean when they say Zombie Apocalypse. Yes we say zombies, but it also really means an apocalyptic scenario, and the zombies are a fun way of talking about something that would really be a terrible experience all around. You sir, need to lighten up. Like a lot. A lot a lot
Actually what I object to is the use of 'logic' to dictate exactly what zombies can do when that logic is fatally flawed to begin with. Its far better to just accept them as a plot device and leave it at that.
I think what you are not getting is I'm not using logic to say Zombies are not allowed to do that, your Zombies can do whatever they want. I'm using source material from WWZ to say that these zombies are not acting like WWZ zombies and the movie should not be titled as such.
It will be as unworthy of its title as "Starship Troopers". I expect much the same, decent popcorn movie, but only loosely based on the actual source material. It might not be a bad Zombie movie, but it looks like it will be bad WWZ movie. Get it? It's not that I object to how Zombies are portrayed in this movie as illogical, I object to it being called WWZ, because well.......its not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 23:36:11
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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Some movies just need to be pirated rather than paid for; this is one of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/14 11:13:50
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Jihadin wrote:If this actually goes down like the movie...first person I trip be Brad Pitt....throw 50 cal cans in back of the MRAP..ensure KingCracker has plenty of water to drink while he's manning the CROWE system (remote control 50 cal)..maybe a bag of Cheeto's but more likely Dorito's. Get in the TC position and slap Whembly on back the helmet yelling "Its the pedal on the right Hero!!"
You do that. Over here ill be dual wielding a couple of A-12s converted to be belt fed and with one big-ass bunker filling belt for each  I wish. Sword-preferably a bastard sword-for when they get to melee range. Scalemale armour for protection and a pole arm such as a glaive baresque or war bill and crossbows-their silent  . Me and my friends and our familys fortify my friends neurberhood on his side starting with his and working outwards. Tasks are assighned and a small group of us including me are assighned the task of clearing zombies rescueing survivors gathering supplies and ensuring the supply of gamer gear never runs down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 20:04:54
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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heard that WWZ is being made to a movie.... squee.
heard that Brad Pitt is starring.... squee.
then I saw the trailer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 21:31:50
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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I think this would be fine if it wasn't named WWZ. This has absolutely nothing to do with the book. It's like they just liked the name.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 21:52:48
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:I think this would be fine if it wasn't named WWZ. This has absolutely nothing to do with the book. It's like they just liked the name.
I don't mind fast zombies if they are done right. I prefer the 'walkers' as you get more creepiness from them actually being animated dead.
But my expectations from this trailer... sigh. If they can't even make a trailer right then what can you reasonably expect from the movie itself? I felt like I was going to get dizzy the cuts were going so fast...
and the director... haven't seen any of his movies aside from quantum of solace. And while I like daniel craig, the movie sucked.
but I am such a pathetic zombie fan, I will probably still go and see this movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 22:29:07
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Meade wrote:If they can't even make a trailer right then what can you reasonably expect from the movie itself?
The people who make the film don't make the trailer, typically.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/23 23:04:39
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Meade wrote: KamikazeCanuck wrote:I think this would be fine if it wasn't named WWZ. This has absolutely nothing to do with the book. It's like they just liked the name.
I don't mind fast zombies if they are done right. I prefer the 'walkers' as you get more creepiness from them actually being animated dead.
But my expectations from this trailer... sigh. If they can't even make a trailer right then what can you reasonably expect from the movie itself? I felt like I was going to get dizzy the cuts were going so fast...
and the director... haven't seen any of his movies aside from quantum of solace. And while I like daniel craig, the movie sucked.
but I am such a pathetic zombie fan, I will probably still go and see this movie.
I don't mind fast zombies either but in WWZ they beat them by giving the army bolt action rifles and making them stand in a circle. Why name this movie WWZ? Like I said, it just seems to be because it sounds cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 00:00:43
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ahtman wrote: Meade wrote:If they can't even make a trailer right then what can you reasonably expect from the movie itself?
The people who make the film don't make the trailer, typically.
it still reflects on the quality of the production, is my point. I've seen crappy movies with good trailers but very rarely is it the other way around.
I don't mind fast zombies either but in WWZ they beat them by giving the army bolt action rifles and making them stand in a circle. Why name this movie WWZ? Like I said, it just seems to be because it sounds cool.
The only thing I can remotely tie to the book from the trailer is the scene where the zombies are climbing over each other to get over a wall. There is a scene in WWZ like that, except of course the zombies are not ridiculously fast (i would imagine it in slow motion). but yes, apparently it is in fact 'based' on the book and Max Brooks consulted on the film.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 00:22:53
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Yes, it reminded me when they attacked the celebrity resort.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 00:54:20
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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Well, the lip curling reaction many of the book fans have is probably deeper than the speed of the zombie.
At least, in my listening to the audio book, my take away was how personalized each story was (due to the method of the telling) and endurance (steadfast survival over long periods of time). It's hard to know this early--but given the dialogue (They ask Brad Pitt to abandon his family to do something 'vitally important') and the scope of the conflict it tries to portray (big camera angle shots over countless dashing zombies)---well that's a pretty big difference from the book. In my opinion  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 03:42:14
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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AgeOfEgos wrote:Well, the lip curling reaction many of the book fans have is probably deeper than the speed of the zombie.
At least, in my listening to the audio book, my take away was how personalized each story was (due to the method of the telling) and endurance (steadfast survival over long periods of time). It's hard to know this early--but given the dialogue (They ask Brad Pitt to abandon his family to do something 'vitally important') and the scope of the conflict it tries to portray (big camera angle shots over countless dashing zombies)---well that's a pretty big difference from the book. In my opinion  .
The book did describe large battles, oh and there were seaborne makeshift cities, that also seems to be in the film. But I'm predicting a lot of seizure-inducing camera tricks and a fast, compressed narrative, they might even turn it into the standard, oh he's a scientist and he has to find a cure for the zombie virus in time to save his family. That is not in the book at all... it was mostly accounts of lone survivors or groups of survivors in desperate and unusual situations....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 17:08:59
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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What are they asking Brad Pitt to do anyway? Makes it sound like there will be some blow up the Death Star solution. The whole point of WWZ is that it was a hard long slog to victory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 17:33:01
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:What are they asking Brad Pitt to do anyway? Makes it sound like there will be some blow up the Death Star solution. The whole point of WWZ is that it was a hard long slog to victory.
well, they got Brad Pitt. They will get their money's worth out of him. It's a sure bet that he will blow up the death star, and probably take his shirt off a few times in the process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 19:29:59
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Those weren't zombies that attacked, those were desperate people trying to secure the "resort" and resources there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 19:53:45
Subject: World War Z trailer trailer
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Maelstrom808 wrote:
Those weren't zombies that attacked, those were desperate people trying to secure the "resort" and resources there.
Oh yeah...alright, nevermind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 12:11:38
Subject: Re:World War Z trailer trailer
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AgeOfEgos wrote:Well, the lip curling reaction many of the book fans have is probably deeper than the speed of the zombie.
At least, in my listening to the audio book, my take away was how personalized each story was (due to the method of the telling) and endurance (steadfast survival over long periods of time). It's hard to know this early--but given the dialogue (They ask Brad Pitt to abandon his family to do something 'vitally important') and the scope of the conflict it tries to portray (big camera angle shots over countless dashing zombies)---well that's a pretty big difference from the book. In my opinion  .
Well (having finished it last night), they could go for the scale of it in vignettes. Images from the great panic, a periscope view of the ocean full of Zombies and ships strapped together, that sort fo thing would be different. Turning it into Brad Pitt Must Save The World! Would be bad.
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