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 mayfist wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:

 deathstreak2000 wrote:
I really hope they don't change the game too much, LoTR SBG is probably my favourite system and I'd hate to see it go!

I just hope they fix the fight system. I'm sick and tired of auto-losing just because my opponent can roll 6's and has a point higher fight value!

What's the fething problem with a proper WS bases system? Right now the SBG is far too skewed towards Good, and Evil players are forced to either play Uruk-Hai or else you have to shoehorn as many big characters and gribblies as possible into your warbands.

Thats the point of Evil forces like goblins and orcs. You are suppose to tarpit them while your Nazgul and co shred them to pieces. And even then, remeber that a goblin can slay a tower guard thanks to the system, in 1on1 combat.
And yes, the combat system is simple, but I enjoy it for its simplicity.

@Agamemnon2
But by doing so it sounds like there dumping the old models and story, instead of integrating the new range to the old one. I wouldn't be so worried about this if they had renamed The Middle Earth strategy battle game.
You see what I'm trying to say ?
I doubt they will dump them, but its a fear I can't really shake....

Evil has quite a few infantry models that can easily out-class good models, and warriors like Easterling's for example, which are at the same skill level as most basic Good warriors.

Easterlings are so fun, defence 6 with shield, 3 attacks and a Ringwraith!

It's a great game. 2 gripes about the game:
1) The fight system. If I roll well enough, my crappy Moria goblin can take down Aragorn by himself.
2) Not enough damn players!

Actually a third problem:
3) Models are rather flimsy, my Easterling's spears have snapped many times. Many, many times . . .

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
Easterlings are so fun, defence 6 with shield, 3 attacks and a Ringwraith!

It's a great game. 2 gripes about the game:
1) The fight system. If I roll well enough, my crappy Moria goblin can take down Aragorn by himself.
2) Not enough damn players!

Actually a third problem:
3) Models are rather flimsy, my Easterling's spears have snapped many times. Many, many times . . .

Easterling Pikes....don't mention that to me....

Just for the record:
While we shall not post the pics of the Radagast miniature (that can still be easily found via google), a description might be helpful:
It is a plastic sprue, depicts the character from the movie in a running pose, back leg on a tree branch. Could be a blister, I wouldn't rule out a "limited edition goodie" treatment either.

BTW "Radagast the Brown" is one of the 5 wizards (Istari), like Saruman and Gandalf (plus 2 unnamed ones that went East). He is supposed to be "lost" dealing with animals and plants, so doesn't take part in the greater schemes.

 Kroothawk wrote:

BTW "Radagast the Brown" is one of the 5 wizards (Istari), like Saruman and Gandalf (plus 2 unnamed ones that went East). He is supposed to be "lost" dealing with animals and plants, so doesn't take part in the greater schemes.

According to the articles in Empire magazine Radagast does play a significant part. He along with the rest of the council - Gandalf, Saruman, Elrond and Galadriel have a fight scene where they aren't fighting each other. If you've read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings you will know that Gandalf leaves the Dwarves when they go into Mirkwood and later it is revealed that Gandalf and the council drove the Necromancer (Sauron) form Dol Goldur which was in Mirkwood. There are various books of the movie available in British shops with lots fo photos, whilst there aren't many of the goblins, orcs and Wargs there are a significant number of photos of Radagast as played by Sylvester McCoy.

I was talking about the Tolkien novel, not the new movie.

I also heard Khamul (http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Kham%C3%BBl) would be in the Movie, which would fit in with the Dol Gulder theme being that he was it's Saurons main lieutenant during his stay there. I wonder if they will give him and the other Dol Gulder themed models an update?

Darnok was told the possible name of the box (spoilered because some people might want to watch the movie without reading the book):

Coupled with Hobbit logo patterned with eight folded stars spotted earlier, it could be a lot of skulls in this box, eh... GW + Skulls+ Chaos+ Goblins+ Halfling Cooks+ GW Christmass Skulls...a real mess

 mayfist wrote:

But by doing so it sounds like there dumping the old models and story, instead of integrating the new range to the old one. I wouldn't be so worried about this if they had renamed The Middle Earth strategy battle game.
You see what I'm trying to say ?
I doubt they will dump them, but its a fear I can't really shake....

Speaking to my local manager, he was told that along with the instruction to take MoM off of shelves, all the source books were to stay as they've still relevant and will work with the new stuff that's coming.

Escape from Goblin Town sounds like a really lame name...

 Kroothawk wrote:
Just for the record:
While we shall not post the pics of the Radagast miniature (that can still be easily found via google)

If I had a penny for every time someone said something could be easily found on google

 Testify wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Just for the record:
While we shall not post the pics of the Radagast miniature (that can still be easily found via google)

If I had a penny for every time someone said something could be easily found on google

I concur.

GW lawyers are troubling dakka too, eh? :/

Now, we just have to hold out for Silmarillion: Strategy Battle Game where we have as many Balrogs as you can want and Elven Lords that are badass enough to go toe-to-toe with them!

Wishful thinking...lol

T-

 Testify wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Just for the record:
While we shall not post the pics of the Radagast miniature (that can still be easily found via google)

If I had a penny for every time someone said something could be easily found on google

The term is 'Radagast the Brown pastic' and you get it.

Or indeed "Radagast the Brown plastic"

And why aren't we allowed to link to the image? Just curious...

Well, even with the typo in it you can find it, hurrah for google accommodating to the typing impaired.

Hmm, looking forward to a return to Middle Earth, havn't had any games in a while due to lack of players in my area. I have always held the LotRSBG rules as the best set to come out of GW that I've played with. The only thing that would be nice would be to add some kind of RPG ability to it, like Warband but a bit more character driven. Excited for new models too.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Testify wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Just for the record:
While we shall not post the pics of the Radagast miniature (that can still be easily found via google)

If I had a penny for every time someone said something could be easily found on google

The term is 'Radagast the Brown pastic' and you get it.

ah yeah...cheers. Had no idea it was plastic.

As long as there are plenty of goblins and wargs to add to my Moria army I'll be definitely picking this up.

Well after looking at the Radagast miniature (after much failed google-fu) I decided that I didn't like it. However, I don't like the pictures of the actor himself, he just doesn't scream wizard to me as much as Sauron or Gandalf. Still interested in more lotr stuff though, just need to get the piles of models I already have done first though!

BramGaunt wrote:I can also confirm the title of the Box, as exactly what Darnok posted earlier in this thread. That gives us a good shot at guessing the contents of the box.

Contents:

Goblins. Lots of dirty, stinkin' Goblins.

Oh and some dwarfs.

im actually getting quite excited about this! finally some new miniatures to add to my armies!!

i really hope the boxset comes with some cool characters, and definatly updated goblins.

Well, here's to hoping for some updated goblin sculpts, then

 Commander Cain wrote:
Well after looking at the Radagast miniature (after much failed google-fu) I decided that I didn't like it. However, I don't like the pictures of the actor himself, he just doesn't scream wizard to me as much as Sauron or Gandalf. Still interested in more lotr stuff though, just need to get the piles of models I already have done first though!

In fairness, that's part of the point of the nature-obsessed Radagast...

Plus, it is Doctor Who pretending to be a wizard (in the film)

xxRavenxx wrote:The GW "core range" of products no longer includes LOTR.
This normally means that largescale rebranding, reboxing, finecasting, re-releasing with new models or discontinuing is about to happen.

BramGaunt wrote:The Lord of the Rings game is renamed in Tho Hobbit game.

Bolognesus wrote:
Well, here's to hoping for some updated goblin sculpts, then

I agree that they could do with an update, but they are still available at present, although the Wild Wargs were gone the last time I looked.

This may be nothing but I've never noticed it before

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470008a&prodId=prod1570015

This base is called '25mm Round Battle of Five Armies Bases'. It has a small whole in the middle presumable for a model to slot into

This may have been on the site for ages but I've never seen it before. If it is old I apologise.

EDIT: They are also sold 9 at a time which seems rather illogical