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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 12:51:10
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Probably going to pass on that game.
Funny enough, the only thing I might have bought are the Trolls. But they really should've thrown in a Bilbo at that price, as he's not available outside of the big box it seems.
Kind of a missed opportunity IMO to do some "diorama kits" that give you the minis to build classic scenes (Smaug anyone?) from the book/movie, even if you don't play the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 13:01:44
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Yeah, like the original game, with their really awesome sets. But alas, it's no longer 2003!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 13:06:24
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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0.o Wow expencive, easy to decide not to get something when what you want is priced so extreme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 13:09:42
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm seriously expecting Smaug to be ~120€.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 13:14:09
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hadn't seen that. GW terrain boxes are usually around the AUD$50 mark.
But $95? For that???
Seems like a steal to me... at least compared to terrain from other wargaming companies such as Hawk Wargame
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 13:14:26
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Ooookay, I was interested in the terrain set, but I guess I'll have to do with cheaper balsa wood. That I can make look better than that. Goddamit GW.
Now I hope they don't price the Fellowship plastics THAT high.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 13:51:34
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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I feel for the Americans and Australasian's, your bank manager is going to hate you after this is out.
I can't believe how expensive everything else, £110 for the limited edition game and the scenery to play it on?!
£50 for trolls? wow. Way to kick fans in the balls, GW. As if Christmas was expensive enough already
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:04:33
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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The trolls are crazy too, you can get three much nicer plastic river trolls for £28.50 so who in their right mind thought £50 was an appropriate price?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:19:12
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:The trolls are crazy too, you can get three much nicer plastic river trolls for £28.50 so who in their right mind thought £50 was an appropriate price?
Why the Trolls are so expensive then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:22:20
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Three Color Minimum
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What got my attention for price wasn't the ugly-as-sin troll models but the White Council. 90CAD for 4 small models. WHAT?! They're not even incredible models! Any Anima Tactics model is far better quality and small ones are $10.
Luckily I wasn't even remotely interested in this even before this all came out. I'd say nice try but it really wasn't. What the hell is with those abortion-fetus goblins?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:27:47
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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powerclaw wrote:What got my attention for price wasn't the ugly-as-sin troll models but the White Council. 90CAD for 4 small models. WHAT?! They're not even incredible models! Any Anima Tactics model is far better quality and small ones are $10.
Luckily I wasn't even remotely interested in this even before this all came out. I'd say nice try but it really wasn't. What the hell is with those abortion-fetus goblins?
They are $125 AUD here, I would be realy interested to see how many they sell here in aus :0
Hehe, I was going to buy for my frind who is a massive lord of the rings guy. But I think he would feel I waste the money :p poor GW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:28:09
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Disclaimer: not defending GW's "premium" pricing strategy, but the three trolls are multi-part plastics on 60mm bases. Looking at the scale, they're pretty much dreadnought size, so in relative terms the price makes sense (three dreads is £84 kiddies!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:33:48
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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Jadenim wrote:Disclaimer: not defending GW's "premium" pricing strategy, but the three trolls are multi-part plastics on 60mm bases. Looking at the scale, they're pretty much dreadnought size, so in relative terms the price makes sense (three dreads is £84 kiddies!)
And you get some food with them.
The White Council on the other hand. Whatcha get?
Edit: Nevermind, the answer is in the description.
This White Council kit is made up of four unique figures produced in our premium Citadel Finecast resin.
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Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:Cue all the people saying "This is the last straw! Now I'm only going to buy a little bit every now and then!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/14 02:46:43
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Calculating Commissar
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ExNoctemNacimur wrote:Yeah, like the original game, with their really awesome sets. But alas, it's no longer 2003!
I've still got 2 of them (Treebeard, and the one with the wizards and eagle), they were a great idea!
stubacca wrote:I can't believe how expensive everything else, £110 for the limited edition game and the scenery to play it on?!
Did I read that right? £110 for the limited edition? And then £100-105 for the regular edition? Do they plan on selling any? I can get the Kingdom Death game for that!
Edit: Ah it's only £75 for the limited edition. More worryingly I happily accepted that it was £110. Is that the dollar price?
And £35 for Goblin town doesn't seem as bad, it's still a resounding no from me though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:52:16
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Mick A wrote:I was looking forward to getting some new Wargs to add to the other ones but these look totally different :( sorry GW, another lost sale...
Mick
I haven't seen a clip of the Wargs from the film yet but I believe the blame for this lies with Peter Jackson and the WETA design team.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 14:59:48
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Herzlos wrote: ExNoctemNacimur wrote:Yeah, like the original game, with their really awesome sets. But alas, it's no longer 2003!
I've still got 2 of them (Treebeard, and the one with the wizards and eagle), they were a great idea!
stubacca wrote:I can't believe how expensive everything else, £110 for the limited edition game and the scenery to play it on?!
Did I read that right? £110 for the limited edition? And then £100-105 for the regular edition? Do they plan on selling any? I can get the Kingdom Death game for that!
Edit: Ah it's only £75 for the limited edition. More worryingly I happily accepted that it was £110. Is that the dollar price?
And £35 for Goblin town doesn't seem as bad, it's still a resounding no from me though.
Yeh, sorry, should've cleared it up more. The limited is £75 and the goblin town is £35, so £110 in total, but for a game that probably not many people are going to play in a few years is a huuuuuuuge expense! At least with 40k/warhammer you can find games anywhere
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 15:21:09
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Herzlos wrote:
And £35 for Goblin town doesn't seem as bad, it's still a resounding no from me though.
j/k right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 15:58:51
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Just logged on to give express my  at the prices.
Some of the individual minis in the starter are not bad, but £75
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 16:09:31
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Jadenim wrote:Disclaimer: not defending GW's "premium" pricing strategy, but the three trolls are multi-part plastics on 60mm bases. Looking at the scale, they're pretty much dreadnought size, so in relative terms the price makes sense (three dreads is £84 kiddies!
As above: River Trolls are three to a pack for $74 AUD, compared to 140 AUD for the Hobbit trols who are arguably much, much less interesting sculpts. For only $10 more I'd much prefer to get three Moria cave trolls.
Zweischneid wrote:Seems like a steal to me... at least compared to terrain from other wargaming companies such as Hawk Wargame
I thought you might be joking... but wow, those buildings are pricey. Pretty, but... wow. On the other hand, they have a range of free downloadable card buildings at the same time..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 16:22:24
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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I woke up this morning to the GW e-mail. I was super excited to see what they were coming out with, and while I dont hate the models as much as some on here... I do hate those prices. But to be honest, while I won't buy this stuff, I'll probably just take that money and spend it on fantasy instead. Damn GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 17:06:27
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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alphaecho wrote: Mick A wrote:I was looking forward to getting some new Wargs to add to the other ones but these look totally different :( sorry GW, another lost sale...
Mick
I haven't seen a clip of the Wargs from the film yet but I believe the blame for this lies with Peter Jackson and the WETA design team.
Correct. Although there is no 'blame' to be had... the Wargs from the LotR trilogy were terrible. even P.J expressed his distaste for them. The Wargs we'll be seeing in the Hobbit are far closer to Tolkien's vision of them, wolf-like and rabid!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 17:22:44
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Eiríkr wrote:
The Wargs we'll be seeing in the Hobbit are far closer to Tolkien's vision of them, wolf-like and rabid!
If I remember the book correctly, Tolkien's vision of them was wolf-like and quite chatty, as well as a bit arrogant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 17:35:56
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Howard A Treesong wrote:£45 for the white council? That's just barmy, they are simple, probably single piece, 28mm castings.
When they first released a galadriel she came with her mate and a bowl for £10-12. In fact, most single character figures were about £5-6, and boxes were much better. Your average LotR box set was £20-25 and contained 6-9 figures, the fellowship, attack on weather top, helms deep, etc.
Now it's four figures for £45??? And people wonder why there's a market for GW recasts.
Weathertop was like one of the best LOTR boxsets ever. 5 Ringwraiths, Aragorn and 4 Hobbits for £20-£25 IIRC. No wonder GW got rid of it PDQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 17:38:52
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Perhaps GW's new strategy is to make the other game systems appear affordable by jacking up the price of Hobbit stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 18:27:36
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Elusive Dryad
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Just seen the Goblin Town kit, ridiculously priced but it has really tempted me to model the whole of Dark Souls Blighttown on a gameboard.
The heart says "do it."
The wallet says "you ******* idiot, not again..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 18:31:43
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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astrocat wrote:Just seen the Goblin Town kit, ridiculously priced but it has really tempted me to model the whole of Dark Souls Blighttown on a gameboard.
The heart says "do it."
The wallet says "you ******* idiot, not again..."
There's a much easier and cheaper way, which has already been said in this thread:
1: Go into coffee shop
2: Grab a handful of the wooden stirrers
3: Rinse and repeat
4: ???
5: Profit!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 18:33:54
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Quite like the look of this game. I've never played the LOTR game but this seems a nice jumping on point.
Models looks a decent representation of the characters in the Peter Jackson films. I'm very likely to buy this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 19:16:14
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. Everyone is saying the price of the starter is obscene, and yet to me I think it is a great deal.
Dark Vengeance is 99 dollars for 48 minis, this limited edition Goblin Town is 125 for 56. Obviously I'm ignoring the differences in miniatures, but the goblin town set comes with 13 dwarf HEROES aka each one is a unique leader, gandalf, bilbo, radagast, and the goblin king. So lots of unique sculpts.
And on top of the massive number of heroes, it comes with terrain, which dark vengeance did NOT come with. So to me it seems like a pretty sweet deal. 56 minis plus rules, terrain, dice, extra crap all for 125- much better deal that GW usually offers.
Also like others have pointed out, the 3 trolls save you money when you look at the prices of trolls individually. The white council also could have easily just been 4 blister packs at $20 or more considering GW pricing.
Really most of these sets are usual GW pricing or less, it's just all bundled instead of broken up into small packets, which I guess everyone is used to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 19:53:17
Subject: LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Tezerel wrote:I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. Everyone is saying the price of the starter is obscene, and yet to me I think it is a great deal.
Dark Vengeance is 99 dollars for 48 minis, this limited edition Goblin Town is 125 for 56. Obviously I'm ignoring the differences in miniatures, but the goblin town set comes with 13 dwarf HEROES aka each one is a unique leader, gandalf, bilbo, radagast, and the goblin king. So lots of unique sculpts.
And on top of the massive number of heroes, it comes with terrain, which dark vengeance did NOT come with. So to me it seems like a pretty sweet deal. 56 minis plus rules, terrain, dice, extra crap all for 125- much better deal that GW usually offers.
Also like others have pointed out, the 3 trolls save you money when you look at the prices of trolls individually. The white council also could have easily just been 4 blister packs at $20 or more considering GW pricing.
Really most of these sets are usual GW pricing or less, it's just all bundled instead of broken up into small packets, which I guess everyone is used to.
What scenery? You don't get scenery included in this, you have to pay £35 EXTRA for the privilege of scenery, all you get in this is a chair for the goblin king to stand on
"Limited Edition contains 56 Citadel Miniatures including: Gandalf the Grey, Bilbo Baggins, Thorin Oakenshield, the limited edition Radagast the Brown, Oin the Dwarf, Gloin the Dwarf, Nori the Dwarf, Ori the Dwarf, Kili the Dwarf, Fili, the Dwarf, Dwalin the Dwarf, Bombur the Dwarf, Bofur the Dwarf, Bifur the Dwarf, The Goblin King, Grinnah the Goblin, The Goblin Scribe, Goblin Captain, 36 Goblin Warriors, and The Goblin King's platform. Also included is a 48 Page full colour 'Your Journey Begins Here' booklet, 1 Play Sheet, a 112 page full colour rules manual, 8 Dice, and 1 Ruler"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 19:54:55
Subject: Re:LOTR/WOTR/Hobbit news.
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@tezerel sorry to tell this but your 100% wrong.
3 x river trolls with complex moulds and excellent detail £28.50 - 3 x overly simplified and horribly sculpted hobbit trolls £50
Cities of Death building with 3 sprues and more plastic £20 - goblin town nicely sculpted 2 spruces but lighter gauge £35
You see where I'm going with this? GW has rinsed costs to the bone with this range and then overcharged for it. If people pay these prices then expect next years price rises to reflect this. Acceptance is permission in GWs eyes. They have chosen to run this experiment with the hobbit as trend buying will make this a success in corporate eyes and then they will believe there entire range should be this price as that is what they think the market will stand. Do not buy overpriced substandard miniatures, it only encourages them to carry out future crimes against the hobby.
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