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 Bobthehero wrote:
^ I heard that the next IA 12 was going to be DKoK vs Necrons, some say its Dark Eldars vs the Minotaurs SM.

We won't be sure till we get the first blurry picture.

It was technically all of those.

Basically, IA12 was going to be done like the Vraks arc.
IA12 was going to be the "first book" in a series, which detailed an entire sector falling into anarchy as the Necrons awoke with the Dark Eldar raiders taking advantage of the anarchy.
The first book was going to be the Minotaurs and Adeptus Mechanicus launching a strike on a Necron Tomb World, followed by the Necrons awaking across the entire sector. Second book was going to introduce the Dark Eldar as another factor as they took advantage of the Necron emergence to raid for slaves and fun. Last book was going to involve the Inquisition and a Crusade to put down the Necrons.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
^ I heard that the next IA 12 was going to be DKoK vs Necrons, some say its Dark Eldars vs the Minotaurs SM.

We won't be sure till we get the first blurry picture.

It was technically all of those.

Basically, IA12 was going to be done like the Vraks arc.
IA12 was going to be the "first book" in a series, which detailed an entire sector falling into anarchy as the Necrons awoke with the Dark Eldar raiders taking advantage of the anarchy.
The first book was going to be the Minotaurs and Adeptus Mechanicus launching a strike on a Necron Tomb World, followed by the Necrons awaking across the entire sector. Second book was going to introduce the Dark Eldar as another factor as they took advantage of the Necron emergence to raid for slaves and fun. Last book was going to involve the Inquisition and a Crusade to put down the Necrons.

This, I did not know. That makes things very interesting. Is that still the plan, or did it just come down to the Minos vs Necrons? Or, does anyone even know at this point?

I think that the plan is still in motion, but can't say for sure. Last I heard it was.

Alternatively they might cut it down to just two books rather than three.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think that the plan is still in motion, but can't say for sure. Last I heard it was.

Alternatively they might cut it down to just two books rather than three.

I hope this is still the plan, as it sounds like a lot of fun!

Also, it is probably the best chance we've got to get some FW MKVIII armor suits up for sale!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I think that the plan is still in motion, but can't say for sure. Last I heard it was.

Alternatively they might cut it down to just two books rather than three.

I hope this is still the plan, as it sounds like a lot of fun!

Also, it is probably the best chance we've got to get some FW MKVIII armor suits up for sale!

I looked into this, and was surprised to see it in the Badab War book(page 107).

It doesn't sound like they field entire Companies in the stuff, but they do seem like they would have access to more of it than usual. Interestingly enough though, aside from the Dark Angels they seem to be the only Chapter which can field their entire First Company in Terminator gear.

Admit it - you looked into this to try and prove me wrong - ha!

 Alpharius wrote:
Admit it - you looked into this to try and prove me wrong - ha!

Never said I did not!

Only, you ended up proving yourself wrong!

Most excellent...

Of course, none of this guarantees me any FW MKVIII kits, which is my GW Raicho, yes?

Once again, who cares, the world need more DKoK goodies!!

 Alpharius wrote:
Only, you ended up proving yourself wrong!

Most excellent...

It happens. I just did not ever recall reading such a thing. I knew they had close ties to the High Lords of Terra, but the "Errant" armor thing seemed a bit odd.

Of course, none of this guarantees me any FW MKVIII kits, which is my GW Raicho, yes?

Indeeed.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Once again, who cares, the world need more DKoK goodies!!

More to the point - who cares?

Ah ha!

The world needs more Space Marine variants as clearly, that's what sells!

I've been lobbying them for a "13th Black Crusade" campaign book (or series even!), personally.

How fun would that be?

A campaign book where there’s no decisive winner and where the status quo is maintained by campaign’s end?

Yeah. Sounds like heaps of fun.

In all seriousness though, that could be a lot of fun. FW Wulfen? FW Lost & The Damned? Sign me up!

The 17 metal LatD aren't enough?

Lost & The Damned. Not Legion of the Damned.


And my copy of IA Vol 1 2E (say that ten times fast!) has shipped!

Chronepsis wrote:The 17 metal LatD aren't enough?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Lost & The Damned. Not Legion of the Damned.


And my copy of IA Vol 1 2E (say that ten times fast!) has shipped!

And that's why sometimes Internet Snark/Quick Reply doesn't work out all that well - and believe me, I would know!

I fail....

 Chronepsis wrote:
I fail....

Not really - and don't take it too hard!

I've stepped in it that way many times...

If someone wouldn't mind posting what kind of general changes to the armored battlegroup happened when the book is released that would be excellent.

I don't need blow by blows or anything like that, but simple things like, "the commissar tank now has a LD bubble of 12" instead of 6" " type stuff would be handy.

I've been reading over the old PDF for the Armored Battlegroup formation and would really like to take it for a spin in 6th ed a few times, and just wanted to know what kind of changes I'm in for.

I just want to know if the Vanquisher is useful again (did it get the old two firing profiles + coaxial gun). I'll be getting the book late January, but I'd like to know ahead of time.

Once my copy arrives I’ll let you know. I got express shipping (against my better judgement) because the cut-off date for ROW was before FW sent out the mail saying IAVol12E was out.

So hopefully it’ll show up before Friday, and I’ll give the highlights.

Don’t get your hopes up about the Vanq though, except that the ammunition rules might save that tank.

Do tell if there's anything major for the Hades Drill as well, if you don't mind.

I put IA 1 vol 2 on my Christmas list, but I won't hold my breath.

I do know I will have to get the book before adepticon (and maybe before TSHFT, if I do go), so I will get it at some point, but it looks like I am just going to have to build anticipation and wait.

Books turned up. It's sweet as! Let me know if you want me to post any general info.

Some highlights:

Destroyer tank hunters get the twin linked rule
Conqueror doesn't seem improved
Armoured company completely different in structure - no need to take elites to build up troop squadrons, heavy support griffon only squadron can take up to 5 vehicles and colossus and bombard are now the same vehicle
Some vehicles can take aa mount heavy stunners and stormbolters
Grenade mesh upgrade grants a bonus save to grenade attacks

Chances are we'll see an updated IA2 - Adeptus Astartes first before Ad. Mech. or whatever.

Anything outstanding regarding the Hades Drill, Thudd gun, Heavy Mortar and both Heavy artillery carriage?

Hades, generally the same. Additional rules for ram attacks with bonus invuln save during ramming (pretty nasty)

Heavy mortar is now the just the griffon. No additional shells

Thudd gun has the shell shock rule with penalties to pinning tests

No change to carriages from what I can see

Basically everything's the same as it was in the 5th ed Krieg rules, but the drill got BETTER? Oooooh boy, feels like I'll be looked down upon for using it

More on the Armoured Company list - this is getting me quite excited! Its definitely a more flexible and richer list than the previous. Some more highlights:

- Atlas and Engineseer now are Elite Choices
- Team them up and the engineseer gets a re-roll to his repairs
- Leman Russ troop options are divided into 2 - Siege tank squadron includes Thunderer, Demolisher, Executioner and Punisher. All other variants form part of the battle tank squadron
- Destroyers are elites
- Armoured Fist Veterans Troop Choice is a 5 man veteran squad in a centaur

Is the hydra the same as ever? I was hoping for interceptor, with a price hike to compensate.

Mine shipped today so I hope to be getting it in a few days. I had better start to fix up some of my older tanks, that have been sitting in mothballs for a while.