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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 22:16:34
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hello everyone just a quick question if anyone know for sure. My twin bro really wants to start playing fantasy again and has currently been interested in doing the Slayer Army found in the Storm of Chaos book. Now I have heard that the book as been declared outdated, however I have found and read an FAQ that was designed for the army to be played in 8th edition. Just want to clarify so I can let him know if he may be wasting his time (and money) or not, thanks guys!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 22:20:16
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Just off the top of my head I'd say the list would be stronger now than it was when released if only because of random charge distance.
Someone posted an 8th battle report using the list against Dark Elves. Automatically Appended Next Post: Here it is.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/473098.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 23:02:46
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Not only is the list horrifically out of date, it is also very expensive to buy and extremely boring to play against.
- Written for the Storm of Chaos meaning it is 6th Edition.
- Written for the old Dwarf Army Book
- Consists entirely of old metals, which cost £4 new. Of course you also have Avatars of War, which would be the sensible way to do it. Not like you could use the army in GW anyway...
- It is an army that consists entirely of Unbreakable melee troops. No Crumble mechanic. No Break Tests. You have to personally kill every last one of them, which can be extremely frustrating.
- No ranged presence beyond a single War Machine.
- No magic
- Essentially immune to enemy magic
Every game will be exactly the same: The Dwarfs waddle into combat and then roll dice until one side falls over. Neither side gets a magic phase, and only one side gets shooting.
The Slayer list was unpopular when it was new, I really don't think its reasonable to play it 8? years of date.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 23:39:18
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I actually have a FAQ sheet that allows this list to be compatible with the new Dwarf Book written by Grav Thorpe. And I can understand the reason it may be boring to play (but same thing can be said with alot of armies that rely on point and click tactic). But he wants to do it because he loves the fluff of the army. I dont think the army would be overpowered (no armor saves across the board) but it would be tough to fight which would present an interesting challenge I believe to other opponents. Besides that, anyone know if the book lists have been determined obsolete and unable to play anymore?
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19th Krieg Siege Army 7500pts.
40k/HH Night Lords 5000pts.
Orks Waaaghmacht Spearhead 2500pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 17:32:03
Subject: Re:SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Hey there I wrote the above mentioned battle report. We had a lot of fun playing the game on both sides. As soon as the contractors are finished with my basement we are hoping to play a game of slayers vs. ogres. Had to have some remodeling done due to hurricane Sandy, right now I don’t even have stairs just a ladder. I can’t wait to see how they stand up against an army with more strength 4+ attacks. The slayers are solid in the anti magic department, but not as much as playing against a regular dwarf army in that respect. Having no armour really hurts, in the old days chaos chosen or chaos warriors w/halberds were devastating. Also you are almost always striking last due to low initiative, with the exception of doomseekers and daemon slayer. Their strengths really balance out in the long run, it is just most people are not used to seeing a combat dwarf army move like them.
I say you guys give it a try. The army is really fun and given how they work they were made for 8th.
If I may what army are you thinking of playing against your bro's slayer?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 17:38:07
Subject: Re:SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The ultimate rivalry, I am putting together an Army of Chaos Dwarves!  Especially because it says in the Tamurakhan (probably spelled that wrong) book it states that this is an official Warhammer list, which no other FW book has ever done.
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19th Krieg Siege Army 7500pts.
40k/HH Night Lords 5000pts.
Orks Waaaghmacht Spearhead 2500pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 17:43:05
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Mozzamanx wrote:Not only is the list horrifically out of date, it is also very expensive to buy and extremely boring to play against.
- Written for the Storm of Chaos meaning it is 6th Edition.
- Written for the old Dwarf Army Book
- Consists entirely of old metals, which cost £4 new. Of course you also have Avatars of War, which would be the sensible way to do it. Not like you could use the army in GW anyway...
- It is an army that consists entirely of Unbreakable melee troops. No Crumble mechanic. No Break Tests. You have to personally kill every last one of them, which can be extremely frustrating.
- No ranged presence beyond a single War Machine.
- No magic
- Essentially immune to enemy magic
Every game will be exactly the same: The Dwarfs waddle into combat and then roll dice until one side falls over. Neither side gets a magic phase, and only one side gets shooting.
The Slayer list was unpopular when it was new, I really don't think its reasonable to play it 8? years of date.
I'd far rather play against it and have fun chopping each other into pieces than all the one spell win games I have played...................thats what Warhammer's about for me - the killing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 18:09:18
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Mr Morden wrote:
I'd far rather play against it and have fun chopping each other into pieces than all the one spell win games I have played...................thats what Warhammer's about for me - the killing 
Fun FTW,
Also from what I see most of the time the big spells go off in IF anyway and even slayers don't have anything to stop that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 17:54:02
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Nimble Mounted Yeoman
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Mozzamanx wrote:Not only is the list horrifically out of date, it is also very expensive to buy and extremely boring to play against.
- Written for the Storm of Chaos meaning it is 6th Edition.
- Written for the old Dwarf Army Book
- Consists entirely of old metals, which cost £4 new. Of course you also have Avatars of War, which would be the sensible way to do it. Not like you could use the army in GW anyway...
- It is an army that consists entirely of Unbreakable melee troops. No Crumble mechanic. No Break Tests. You have to personally kill every last one of them, which can be extremely frustrating.
- No ranged presence beyond a single War Machine.
- No magic
- Essentially immune to enemy magic
Every game will be exactly the same: The Dwarfs waddle into combat and then roll dice until one side falls over. Neither side gets a magic phase, and only one side gets shooting.
The Slayer list was unpopular when it was new, I really don't think its reasonable to play it 8? years of date.
Can't agree more, it was a cheese list to fight in 6th and it still is.
That battle report posted above really supports you're points. The elves get no magic off. They cause heavy damage to the slayers, but due to army wide unbreakable are eventually grinded down. And finally, look snory trolls will usually cause the slayers to be in combat with you a turn sooner than they should be.
So back on topic. Yes they are viable, but people will hate you if you use it more than once.
Edit: That came off harsher than I meant. What I am getting at is that they are one of those set ups that I, personally, really dislike fighting. They always seem to have a rule that means they win when you think you have a unit of the little buggers beat.
Go for it If you want to. Just be aware it's lees fun for opponents than you would think for an army of ginger lunatics in pants.
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Rolls for the dice god!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 18:24:46
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Where do you get these FAQs ? Is the cult of slaanesh still viable?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 02:23:03
Subject: SOC Slayer Army Still Viable?
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Spyral wrote:Where do you get these FAQs ? Is the cult of slaanesh still viable?
The FAQs we are talking about are older ones from 2006ish for when the current dwarf bood first came out. It was written by Pete Hanes & Gav Thorpe. It answered basic FAQ stuff about the book and told how to use the Slayer list with the current dwarf book. There was also a separate Storm of Chaos FAQ that you can find on Scibd. There is also a guy named Bilbobaggins around a bunch of the warhammer forums that says he has a lot of old GW pdf files. He is really freindly and says that people can email or pm him for a copy.
As for the cult of slaanesh list I don't see why not. All it really did was add a few units and magic items. Best thing I can say is run it past your opponent and try it.
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