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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 16:33:37
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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yeah, Just found these on iTunes. Two New digital only battle missions for Chaos Space Marines and the Dark Angels. These are the same format as Altars of War - Space Marines Each digital book costs £4.99 update: I I bought all three Altars of War. The following is a quick review based on my initial thoughts. I look forward to trying these missions out! my review uses images and diagrams that are the Copyright of GW. Used without permission with Sufficient acknowledgment for the purpose of review and critisim. http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-other/c-exception/c-exception-acknowledge.htm +++ Altar of War - Space Marines Published: 06 August 2012 Altar of War - Space Marines - 26 pages containing 6 battle missions. SM description wrote:Altar of War missions provide all the information required to play games inspired by the battlefield tactics of the different Warhammer 40,000 armies. This book contains six brand-new missions which you can use instead of the Eternal War missions in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook if you or your opponent has a Space Marine army, allowing you to fight the daring lightning assaults, surprise planetfall attacks and heroic last stands of the Emperor’s Space Marines.
Photos Basic Mission break down: 1) Two objectives one in the middle and one in the enemy deployment zone. All Spacemarine infantry units counts as scoring. 2) Moddified VP game enemy group in the middle and Space Marines come in from all angles from reserves. 3) Single objective in the middle and Space Marines must hold it. 4) Moddified VP - HQs are more valuable. 5) Race for the Objectives game, only fast attack start on the board. vehicles (and squads in transports) can arrive from turn 1, everything else arrives from reserve as normal. 6) Objective game, Half the Space Marines must be held in reserve, but they all arrive together. And a Wonderful spread of deployment Maps A lovely little package of battle missions. Exactly what your expecting when you pay your £5 5/5 Stars +++ Altar of War - Dark Angels Published: 02 February 2013 Altar of War - Dark Angels - 26 pages containing 6 battle missions. DA description wrote:Altar of War missions provide all the information required to play games inspired by the battlefield tactics of the different Warhammer 40,000 armies. This book contains six brand-new missions which you can use instead of the Eternal War missions in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook if you or your opponent has a Dark Angels army, allowing you to hunt the Fallen – traitors of the Chapter’s ancient past – or unleash the elite Deathwing and Ravenwing on your foes in all their devastating glory.
Photos Basic Mission break down: 1) Objectives in the enemys deployment zone and the Dark Angels want them. 2) Objectives. The enemy sets up with hidden deployment rules. Only ravenwing and scouts start on the board. 3) Objectives. Ravenwing and Deathwing start in reserve, dark angels lose points for calling them early and gain points for calling them in late in the game. 4) Objectives. Enemy deploy in the middle. Dark angels all go into a modified stealthy reserve. 5) Objectives in the Dark Angel deployment zone. Dark angels only deploy troops plus D3 units at start of the game. 6) reroll mission 1-5 and play that - plus a random independant character is a member of the fallen or a agent of the fallen worth extra VP to both armies.. A batch of very similar deployment Maps...  They are all top to bottom with a varying ammounts of no-mans land in the middle... bland. A repetitive package of standard objective based battle missions. But the implementation of Ravenwing and Deathwing in missions are done very well. I especially like mission 6 it's very flavourful as it depicts the dark angels discovering info on / a member of the fallen while engaged on another mission. Not bad for your £5 4/5 Stars +++ Altar of War - Chaos Space Marines Published: 02 February 2013 Altar of War - Chaos Space Marines - 28 pages containing 6 battle missions. CSM description wrote:Altar of War missions provide all the information required to play games inspired by the battlefield tactics of the different Warhammer 40,000 armies. This book contains six brand-new missions which you can use instead of the Eternal War missions in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook if you or your opponent has a Chaos Space Marines army, allowing you to wage wars of vengeance, launch a dreaded Black Crusade, or simply unleash indiscriminate carnage on your unsuspecting foes.
Photos Basic Mission break down: 1) Accumlitive Objective mission. Like Control modes in FPSs you score points for every turn your holding an objective. 2) Victory Points, all non vehicles are 'without number.' and return to play when dead and can be killed again. 3) Objectives. All terrain is either on fire or smoking so they block all LOS plus are either dangerous or proving +1 cover. 4) Relic varient. 5) Victory Points, 1 (or more) random unit is more valuable. 6) Modified objectives. Chaos player rolls three time on a table for his secondary objectives. And a copy paste disappointment of deployment Maps  Map 1,3 and 5 are the same and 2,4 and 6 are the same... seems like GW put in no effort in here. When I pay my £5 I expect a little bit more divergence in deployment zones. The maps are very dissapointing! The Battle Missions are great. 4/5 Stars Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 16:35:18
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sounds like the Space Marine iPad product that came out last year. It has some battle missions in it, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 16:36:34
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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The New Miss Macross!
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Interesting... are these "opponent permission" type things like the battle missions book from last edition? I didn't see anything mentioned in the pics you posted but maybe it's lurking somewhere inside.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 16:40:08
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They're optional battle missions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 16:43:30
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Hmmm...this looks surprisingly good. May have to buy these during my lunch hour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:14:47
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Interesting that we didn't hear anything about these in the rumor mill. Not surprising- they probably threw these together in a day. But interesting still.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:18:45
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Fixture of Dakka
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"Hey loyal Warhammer fans! Remember the stuff that used to make WD interesting? Well, we thought you'd much prefer to pay for it separately. Enjoy!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:28:07
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Flashman wrote:"Hey loyal Warhammer fans! Remember the stuff that used to make WD interesting? Well, we thought you'd much prefer to pay for it separately. Enjoy!"
On one hand, it's only $5, available in unlimited quantities, and online. On the other hand, iPad only? Seriously, that's just overdesigning it. I guess it lowers piracy, even though their potential market shrinks exponentially.
Oh well, since nobody I know bought into the Apple craze, I suppose I won't know any of the content herein. That's just too bad, GW might've gotten my money on this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:31:57
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Raging Rat Ogre
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This is the sort of price I'd pay for their Army books. Heck, you could triple it and I'd still be interested, sort of.
For what it is, though. I agree with Flashman, this is just something they could have put in White Dwarf to have made it worth buying!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:32:36
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Flashman wrote:"Hey loyal Warhammer fans! Remember the stuff that used to make WD interesting? Well, we thought you'd much prefer to pay for it separately. Enjoy!"
This really... Every other miniature company in the known world would have thrown this as free content in their hobby magazine... seems like GW actually has to work to make WD just as bad as it currently is...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:39:23
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, this is really something meant for WD and then later on online free pdfs.....
But GW gunna GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 17:39:51
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah, OP editted alot to fix content links and formatting... uberjoras wrote:Interesting that we didn't hear anything about these in the rumor mill. Not surprising- they probably threw these together in a day. But interesting still.
I guess because they are less than 30pages they had a small development time and did't require going to the printers, so the development team was quite small. Flashman wrote:"Hey loyal Warhammer fans! Remember the stuff that used to make WD interesting? Well, we thought you'd much prefer to pay for it separately. Enjoy!"
Your comments would be more valid if you directed them at the Call to Arms series. I don't remember ever getting 6 army specific missions in WD. Samurai_Eduh wrote:Hmmm...this looks surprisingly good. May have to buy these during my lunch hour.
I'm stuck at work, when I get home I'm gonna buy the CSM one and if it's good buy the Dark angels one too. kronk wrote:Sounds like the Space Marine iPad product that came out last year. It has some battle missions in it, too.
The space marine heros one. I don't think it had any battle missions in it? Altar of War - Space Marines! Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:02:34
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Fixture of Dakka
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@ Panic - Perhaps not six all at once, but this sort of thing is certainly what you used to buy WD for. Each to their own anyway. Genuinely hope your purchase
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:14:29
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Beast of Nurgle
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PhantomViper wrote:Every other miniature company in the known world would have thrown this as free content in their hobby magazine... seems like GW actually has to work to make WD just as bad as it currently is...
Not sure if you guys are following the trends at all, but print media like magazines and newspapers are getting their asses handed to them by digital media alternatives. Like the intarwebs. And tablet content. Not sure why GW and WD would be any less affected than other niche magazines.
I for one welcome our new digital overlords!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:22:24
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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AT wrote:PhantomViper wrote:Every other miniature company in the known world would have thrown this as free content in their hobby magazine... seems like GW actually has to work to make WD just as bad as it currently is...
Not sure if you guys are following the trends at all, but print media like magazines and newspapers are getting their asses handed to them by digital media alternatives. Like the intarwebs. And tablet content. Not sure why GW and WD would be any less affected than other niche magazines.
I for one welcome our new digital overlords!
Of course you do! Who wouldn't like this wonderful opportunity to pay for stuff that others get for free!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:22:32
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Been Around the Block
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83p per mission? Ouch.
If GW 'shifts the market' by selling these sorts of thing rather than giving them away for free, why not enter that market? Why not self publish missions into the iBook store? Individuals could do it, or a "Dakka Dakka Collected Missions Book" could be made. Presumably you could include a lot of detail without treading on GW's IP toes, or if there was a risk of that you could aim to make them more generic so they could be used across a variety of gaming systems.
I'd do it myself, but I'm up to my eyeballs in projects already.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:28:50
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Panic wrote: kronk wrote:Sounds like the Space Marine iPad product that came out last year. It has some battle missions in it, too.
The space marine heros one. I don't think it had any battle missions in it? Altar of War: Space Marines was its name. Edit: Altar, not alter...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:40:19
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Only Games Workshop could release DLC for a non-computer game!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:53:56
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah, cool found it and added it to the list up top! Splog wrote:... Why not self publish missions into the iBook store? Individuals could do it, or a "Dakka Dakka Collected Missions Book" could be made. Presumably you could include a lot of detail without treading on GW's IP toes, or if there was a risk of that you could aim to make them more generic so they could be used across a variety of gaming systems
Good idea! Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 18:54:47
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oops. Altar, not alter. That would be silly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:04:52
Subject: Re:Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
I can't help but think these would be more cool to have as thin paperbacks.
Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:11:37
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Heck, all they need is 8-10 pages. It would be a waste to even print it like a book, when you could distribute it digitally... and put the printing costs onto the players...Dang, if only there was a convenient format to do this...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:25:09
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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So obviously the content for the dark angel and chaos missions was ready before the codex release. So why not put them in the codex? Only reason not to is a lazy money grab, wow GWs hard work and innovation astounds me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:32:36
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I don't remember missions being in the codex before. The question is, why weren't missions put into the White Dwarf. At least then the rag would have actually had useful content for once in a great long while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:35:29
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Either way works for me but I personally think that putting army specific missions in the relevant codexes would help improve there value for money. Instead selling these separately just screams give us more money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:51:12
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:Either way works for me but I personally think that putting army specific missions in the relevant codexes would help improve there value for money. Instead selling these separately just screams give us more money.
But people are apparently buying it. I mean, what's $5 to someone who can afford an ipad, and GW miniatures?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 19:52:39
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Fixture of Dakka
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The 3rd edition codexes usually included one mission.
uberjoras wrote:But people are apparently buying it. I mean, what's $5 to someone who can afford an ipad, and GW miniatures?
A principle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 20:50:19
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Fresh-Faced New User
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PhantomViper wrote: AT wrote:PhantomViper wrote:Every other miniature company in the known world would have thrown this as free content in their hobby magazine... seems like GW actually has to work to make WD just as bad as it currently is...
Not sure if you guys are following the trends at all, but print media like magazines and newspapers are getting their asses handed to them by digital media alternatives. Like the intarwebs. And tablet content. Not sure why GW and WD would be any less affected than other niche magazines.
I for one welcome our new digital overlords!
Of course you do! Who wouldn't like this wonderful opportunity to pay for stuff that others get for free!
I guess I missed something here, but we were talking about getting the stuff in WD, not getting that stuff for free...
So you're either paying 10$ to get the rules in WD and a bunch of pretty pictures, or 8$ to get just the rules?
+ Edit : Oups, 8$; thought I'd read 5$ but that was 5£
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 21:01:28
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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At this point, I'd rather pay the $5 to get the iPad battle missions than $9 for a WD that I have to carry around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/04 21:07:53
Subject: Games Workshop release Warhammer 40,000 Altars of War for iPad. Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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from a recent rumour thread on Dakka GW have decided to bow to internet presure not to have ANYTHING in white Dwarf which would lead to complaints if it sells out
so as well as new units (eg Dakkajet) this would include missions.....
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