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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What would Warhammer 30,000 be though?

The Space Marine Legions (plus some support by the Imperial Army and Mechanicum Legions) fighting Orks, Eldar, various scattered human empires and... what? The odd random alien race?

No Tau. No Tyranids. No Necrons.

You do realize that you made this sound very good indeed, which was probably contrary to your intent. Warhammer without Tau and Necrons? Sign me up!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What would Warhammer 30,000 be though?

The Space Marine Legions (plus some support by the Imperial Army and Mechanicum Legions) fighting Orks, Eldar, various scattered human empires and... what? The odd random alien race?

No Tau. No Tyranids. No Necrons.

Forge World's dream: Only SM shoulder pads and IG tanks!

Well I can live with the IG tanks part.

If there are no Tyranids in WH30K then Forgeworld can make a killing with Squats!

 d-usa wrote:
If there are no Tyranids in WH30K then Forgeworld can make a killing with Squads!

Squads of what? Marines?

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
If there are no Tyranids in WH30K then Forgeworld can make a killing with Squats!

Squads of what? Marines?

I have no idea what you are talking about

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What would Warhammer 30,000 be though?

The Space Marine Legions (plus some support by the Imperial Army and Mechanicum Legions) fighting Orks, Eldar, various scattered human empires and... what? The odd random alien race?

No Tau. No Tyranids. No Necrons.

you are right for the most part, except for the necrons. prime example that they were around is Manus's hands, and then there is the Hrud floating about until the iron warriors nearly killed them all...

Yeah but there aren't enough Necrons around to constitute a galactic threat and therefore be a major race. Just because they exist doesn't mean that there's enough of them.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What would Warhammer 30,000 be though?

The Space Marine Legions (plus some support by the Imperial Army and Mechanicum Legions) fighting Orks, Eldar, various scattered human empires and... what? The odd random alien race?

No Tau. No Tyranids. No Necrons.

You do realize that you made this sound very good indeed, which was probably contrary to your intent. Warhammer without Tau and Necrons? Sign me up!

Same here - that would be great!

There could also be rules for the race on the planet Murder, the Nephilim from the earlier parts of Fear to Tread...

And the Interex. I found them to be fascinating. I suppose you could do IG + TAU allies to get a similar feel or Proxy.

Sounds like we're looking for the good old RT/2nd Edition days I agree with a lot of suggestion here though. The Interex, Warsingers and Megarachnids would be interesting to see

Best of all...

No Matt Ward Codexes!

Grey Knights don't exist yet!

Balisong wrote:
Best of all...

No Matt Ward Codexes!

Grey Knights don't exist yet!

Ward also wrote the Space Marines Codex, which is a very solid codex... doesn't have a lot of the flash that other codices have, but still good nonetheless.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't just me, but did anyone else picture the Megarachnids as being almost exactly like the bugs from Starship Troopers? I definitely got that impression when reading the books, but I may just need to read them again, it's been a while...

Tibbsy wrote:
I'm pretty sure it wasn't just me, but did anyone else picture the Megarachnids as being almost exactly like the bugs from Starship Troopers? I definitely got that impression when reading the books, but I may just need to read them again, it's been a while...

I thought that too But then again it was because I wanted to think of them without thinking of Nids, so they were kind of a weird combination of the bugs from Starship Troopers and Zerg.

Also thanks to the mod that deleted the comment

We need a Lucius mini with a bug limb strapped to his arm.

So, the new Heresy Tank...




Reminds me very strongly of that Russian resin tank that got copyright hit by GW some years ago for some fairly obvious recasting.

Very much a proto Leman Russ.

I'm guessing that new tank is the fabled half-way house between a Predator and a Land Raider

I like the Russian ones better >_>

I'll go turn myself into the GW thought police for Heresy.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I like the Russian ones better >_>

I'll go turn myself into the GW thought police for Heresy.

I'll be in that line with you!

I updated the first post to include the link to the HH Weekender thread and linnear's coverage from the HH Weekender on his Apocalypse 40k Blog.

Thank you for posting those pictures and grilling Alan Bligh, and then sharing stuffs, linnear.

I haven't read all this thread so excuse me if its already been discussed but on the subject of Xenos in the 30k games there will be none.

To quote Alan Bligh in a seminar the Xenos are either dead or in hiding. He described a galaxy that was on the verge of being purged of aliens.

So those that are hoping of sideline races that appear in the novels are going to be disappointed. It's all about the IOM.

They say that now, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if some creep in eventually.

If nothing else, we know the Eldar were out and about, not to mention various dirty Xenos Cabal members too...

 Malika2 wrote:
They conquered about 2 million worlds, that's plenty of different civilizations, tons of Orks and Eldar, and of course various different aliens who were driven to extinction. I mean, the Tau Empire is just a tiny spec on the map, but GW threats it as a major power just so they can sell more models. Why couldn't there be other xenos races in 30k that have that same level?

And that's just it; there's lots of human civilizations, xenos and the like which challenged the nascent Imperium of Man, and such diversity is what I would enjoy. Marine on Marine on Marine is just boring, truth be told. Easy to balance, absolutely, but lacking the diversity which makes 40k so interesting.

"Marine on Marine" only doesn't justify the number of books they're currently aiming for either!

Didn't Xenos come out of the woodwork somewhat with the eruption of the Heresy anyway; capitalising on humanity's confusion and weakness?

You all seem to be getting confused with 30k vs HH. The new dimension of the game is centred around events of the HH not the 30k universe.

So Isstvan V can be recreated first and foremost. As events of the HH unfold that's when new legions will be released. It's very clever on GW part the way they can drip feed their customers with new lines making us want more and more and asking what's next.

It did make me lol to hear them talk positively about the iron hands and how ferras manus being killed is ok because they continue to play a role throughout the HH. I felt like standing up a saying 'dude their primarch is dead! Who's going to want to build that army!?' Maybe that's just me though...,,,

 BrookM wrote:
Very much a proto Leman Russ.

Very much a proto backwards Leman Russ.

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 d-usa wrote:
If there are no Tyranids in WH30K then Forgeworld can make a killing with Squats!

LO! Would be awesome...

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