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 Shandara wrote:
Launching on April 1st 2014, I guess?

Not sure why else it would take 8 months to roll out their new website.

Because designing a website then transferring data to new servers takes a while? They would also need to test for any bugs or broken links.

 Shandara wrote:
Launching on April 1st 2014, I guess?

Not sure why else it would take 8 months to roll out their new website.

A total overhaul of a website isn't something that you just press a button, and it happens. That seems like a fairly normal timetable for an established retail site that wants to ensure that it has 100% functionality at launch. Plus, it sounds like they are going to include non-salesy/product content. So they have to produce all of that content too.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Plus, it sounds like they are going to include non-salesy/product content. So they have to produce all of that content too.

Actually, they don't have to produce much at all. They would just need to repost all the stuff that "disappeared" from their website in the last few years. They have decades of hobby material already at their fingertips that they can easily use.

Is it me or does everything that belongs to the sons of Horus just look evil?

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place, but according to natfka GW are redesigning their website and it'll include FW. Not sure what this will mean for FW shipping costs or if GW will start interfering with FW (I doubt the last one but who knows with GW especially with the talk about bringing the success of the HH over to GW)

New GW-Site!
Games Workshop will launch a new Internet-Site in April 2014. The new Site will bring back Hobby content and other stuff. The Online shop will include Black Library Products and at the end of the year 2014 Forgeworld. The success of Horus Heresy moved GW to this.

Great news! Now FW products can be integrated into the annual price increase and the community will no longer be split between those who are allowed to pay more and those who have to settle for being neglected and buying cheap models.

 Peregrine wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place, but according to natfka GW are redesigning their website and it'll include FW. Not sure what this will mean for FW shipping costs or if GW will start interfering with FW (I doubt the last one but who knows with GW especially with the talk about bringing the success of the HH over to GW)

New GW-Site!
Games Workshop will launch a new Internet-Site in April 2014. The new Site will bring back Hobby content and other stuff. The Online shop will include Black Library Products and at the end of the year 2014 Forgeworld. The success of Horus Heresy moved GW to this.

Great news! Now FW products can be integrated into the annual price increase and the community will no longer be split between those who are allowed to pay more and those who have to settle for being neglected and buying cheap models.

haha they probably rejected this idea earlier in the year. Now they've noticed it's making money they sponge off FW success to subsidise their falling profit margins.

GW has already destroyed Black Library, now time to move onto FW. Expect gakky limited edition gimicks and one week notices to releases.

BaconUprising wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place, but according to natfka GW are redesigning their website and it'll include FW. Not sure what this will mean for FW shipping costs or if GW will start interfering with FW (I doubt the last one but who knows with GW especially with the talk about bringing the success of the HH over to GW)

New GW-Site!
Games Workshop will launch a new Internet-Site in April 2014. The new Site will bring back Hobby content and other stuff. The Online shop will include Black Library Products and at the end of the year 2014 Forgeworld. The success of Horus Heresy moved GW to this.

Great news! Now FW products can be integrated into the annual price increase and the community will no longer be split between those who are allowed to pay more and those who have to settle for being neglected and buying cheap models.

haha they probably rejected this idea earlier in the year. Now they've noticed it's making money they sponge off FW success to subsidise their falling profit margins.

They don't have falling profit margins, so...bad joke denied.

Also, people who can't afford the hobby aren't neglected. They just can't afford the hobby. If GW were to market it to the people who are terrible with their money but always blame someone/something else for it (re: almost everybody), they'd have zero profit margin. It's a niche market, and the Wal Mart approach will never work in this industry. All of the good table top companies are expensive. That's not because they are greedy, but because they will never produce enough of the product to profit through sheer volume. Even if GW lowered the price of their rule book to $30, and a box of Space Marines to $25, they'd see minimal gains in overall player growth; meanwhile they'd lose a ton of money. The price tags aren't what draw new players into table top games. It's the cool minis and paint jobs, cool stories, and fun as hell game play. If low prices were the key, Privateer and GW would have long since died to all the junky games that debut at every Con in the country.

 brassangel wrote:
Also, people who can't afford the hobby aren't neglected. They just can't afford the hobby.

You completely missed the joke there. Go back and try again?

Even if GW lowered the price of their rule book to $30, and a box of Space Marines to $25, they'd see minimal gains in overall player growth; meanwhile they'd lose a ton of money.

Which is only true because GW is badly managed to the point that their profit margins are much smaller than they should be, and completely incapable of marketing a game to take advantage of low startup costs for a new player.

The price tags aren't what draw new players into table top games.

No, but high prices certainly do a good job of convincing potential new customers that it's a cool game but too expensive.

Pretty sure last year they saw a fall in profits

BaconUprising wrote:
Pretty sure last year they saw a fall in profits

Sales have been falling for a while now so it's not much of a stretch to assume all the cost cutting they have been bragging about is the only thing driving the increased revenue.

Kor Phaeron and Erebus, pretty hot! From Pins of war -

http://pinsofwar.com/forge-worlds-kor-phaeron-erebus-of-the-word-bearers/

I'm not totally sold on Erebus, the giant book-stick just looks daft, and he looks half way through doing a reach and grab while singing in the Word Bearers karaoke competition.

I'm really liking Kor Phaeron though, perhaps because he hasn't been buried in a load of unnecessary detail yet, the face is just right. I hope there is a lot more restraint shown with him as a Forge World model than if he were a GW sculpt (who would likely have spikes emerging from his spikes)

Well the website news is certainly disconcerting. I was looking forward to doing a legion army and now the prices will inevitably double and the bundles will save you nothing and the news letters will turn to garbage. Shame really, GW had a good thing going with FW, too bad Kirby needs more boats and sportscars painted with solid gold.

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Well the website news is certainly disconcerting. I was looking forward to doing a legion army and now the prices will inevitably double and the bundles will save you nothing and the news letters will turn to garbage. Shame really, GW had a good thing going with FW, too bad Kirby needs more boats and sportscars painted with solid gold.

Eh, what's this now?

Rumor is that FW will be available trough the GW website in 6 months or so, don't know any details though.

That Erebus one not already leaked, or does it just resemble an art piece so much?

Thankfully Erebus isn't standing atop a pile of books like the GW Dark Apostle. Though its hardly practical, I suspect the Dark Apostle totes that stack of heathen texts with him just to strike that pose.

 Deadshot wrote:

Eh, what's this now?

He's presumably refering to a previous post about GW rolling FW into its main website. However any statement about price rises and the like aren't sourced I think...

 d-usa wrote:
Rumor is that FW will be available trough the GW website in 6 months or so, don't know any details though.

Well, god fething damn. Guess I better load up on FW models afterall. I though I would be able to wait a few years.

I don't know the source or details. Could be that the GW site lets you order FW stuff and that they will still have the FW website as well (similar to the way they used to do their books).

And just because they share a website doesn't mean that they are becoming one company. "GW - the website" could simply become a distributer for "FW - the business".

Although this might be OT anyway...

 d-usa wrote:
I don't know the source or details. Could be that the GW site lets you order FW stuff and that they will still have the FW website as well (similar to the way they used to do their books).

And just because they share a website doesn't mean that they are becoming one company. "GW - the website" could simply become a distributer for "FW - the business".

Although this might be OT anyway...

If the GW site lets you order FW stuff through their site--it might mean allowing for "in store ordering" for FW stuff.

Which is a fantastic thing.

You guys don't in store ordering?

Not for Forge World stuff. Some GW mangers however will organize "Group Buys" and collect money to place the order themselves.

Here we have a computer typically at the back of a store for FW orders. However I really don't see the point in using it as well you aren't actually saving any cash on the (ridiculous) shipping fees.

Well at one store I know of there is a seperate computer than the one the staff user for the till, a touchscreen mounted on the wall. It hotlinks only to GW, FW and BL, and you can order away there. You still don't have the ship to store option like on the GW main section but if you give the store address they are more than happy to hold it for you.

 d-usa wrote:
Well, god fething damn. Guess I better load up on FW models afterall. I though I would be able to wait a few years.

Can we please wait withe the whine and cheese for when they actually try rising the prices?

And I look forward to fixed shipping rates for FW stuff. I've already paid a Thunderhawk or two in shipping costs.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Well, god fething damn. Guess I better load up on FW models afterall. I though I would be able to wait a few years.

Can we please wait withe the whine and cheese for when they actually try rising the prices?

And I look forward to fixed shipping rates for FW stuff. I've already paid a Thunderhawk or two in shipping costs.

I said that. I was making an obvious joke. Nice as FW is I don't plan on getting anything soon.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Kor Phaeron and Erebus, pretty hot! From Pins of war -

http://pinsofwar.com/forge-worlds-kor-phaeron-erebus-of-the-word-bearers/

Those are looking great. Hopefully the finished Kor Phaeron is an improvement through added detail as opposed to the end result of some of the recent releases.

They had to release these as I start a Word Bearers force too, the dark gods truly have a hold on my wallet now.

 Deadshot wrote:
Well at one store I know of there is a seperate computer than the one the staff user for the till, a touchscreen mounted on the wall. It hotlinks only to GW, FW and BL, and you can order away there. You still don't have the ship to store option like on the GW main section but if you give the store address they are more than happy to hold it for you.

Yes, which is entirely pointless as shipping to the store doesn't cut out the shipping fees. Rather you could just have the order arrive at your door instead of having to commute to GW to pick it up. At least that's the odd situation at my GW, which perplexes me greatly.

BaconUprising wrote:
Is it me or does everything that belongs to the sons of Horus just look evil?

Dramatic Foreshadowing! DUN DUN DUUUUUUUNNNNN

 d-usa wrote:
Rumor is that FW will be available trough the GW website in 6 months or so, don't know any details though.

I doubt this as then when Aussies and Kiwis went to the GW website, the FW stuff would actually be cheaper than the GW stuff.

Unless.....

FW raises its prices in line with GW......