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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 19:17:25
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Wicked Warp Spider
A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains
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People complain about my Eldar heavy support artillery sometimes...
Now that's funny. Anyways, some seem to be aggravated by 3 scatter laser war walkers, but I can understand why that time
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Craftworld Eleuven 4500
LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
LoneLictor wrote:I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.
Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 19:26:41
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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I tend to field a lot of kevtching about dreadknights; my opponents will typically focus their entire war-effort against any of them that i field. Suits me fine really, gives my other stuff room to move around in.
Other than that though, dreadnoughts with psybolts and twin-linked auto-cannons get the occasional snide comment or two, but don't seem to draw nearly as much aggro.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 19:32:24
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Regular Dakkanaut
San Francisco
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People grit their teeth when I pull Marbo out. He's pretty easy to kill the S8 AP2 template I'm about to drop gives people a lot of anxiety.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 19:55:07
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Greensboro, NC
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People frown about my helldrake. They also bitch when I place terrain in front of their fortification.
Things I hate, are whatever it is on necrons that has the strength 10 ap 1 large blast tempate with super long range. It's like a vindicator with more than twice as much range and better AP, feth that thing. feth mindshackle scarabs. feth wraiths. Necrons are Oh Pee
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 20:07:29
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Phragonist wrote:People frown about my helldrake. They also bitch when I place terrain in front of their fortification.
Things I hate, are whatever it is on necrons that has the strength 10 ap 1 large blast tempate with super long range. It's like a vindicator with more than twice as much range and better AP, feth that thing. feth mindshackle scarabs. feth wraiths. Necrons are Oh Pee
Thats the Doomsday Ark. Its less of a threat if it moves. Plus once you score a penetrating hit, its an AV11 open top vehicles, so its easy to finish off with a couple of solid lascannon shots. Its also still AV 11 at the rear, even before you take away its shields, just FYI.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 20:19:32
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Nakor The BlueRider wrote:
This. As a Cron player I love my Barge but this one game where a swapped armies with my opponent I saw how terrifying the Tesla Destructor is.
It seems atm anything Necron gets complaints by most players. People are too used to a SM variant being top dog.
Personally I don't care for the StormRaven, a Av12 flying Box that wont DIE!
An av12 flying box that gets distracted by "ooh! Flying Daemon Prince, must kill!", gets pulled around the field, fails to do anything while the DP gets into a ton of assaults, and then turns out to be a huge point sink
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 20:24:23
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grots...never hear the end of the whining about my grots, but i do field like 300 or so of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 20:27:55
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I don't bring cheesy stuff, so no, I don't get complaints.
Regardless of how strong my lists are, I always leave at least a few outs for my opponents to do stuff, and I never do anything that might net me a win because my opponents don't understand the special rules that a unit has. On those rare occasions that I do use something unusual, I always explain to my opponent what it is and what it does.
Winning through secrecy is super lame, and building lists that exist to prevent your opponent from doing anything is TFG behavior. Avoid doing those kinds of things, and you won't get people complaining at you.
Also, playing with older, more experienced players also helps a lot. Perhaps the problem with your friends complaining about what you're bringing is your friends, not what you're bringing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 20:31:10
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Ribon Fox wrote:As a Guard player I hate Doom and Mawloc.
I so hate Doom. It can quite literally munch threw a foot gun line all on its own. Then there is Mawloc a havoc to my mech vets, pair the two together and its just nom nom nom time.
Then you would hate to meet my trio of Trygons then  Granted I never use the Doom, anything that comes down in any form of orbital deployment has never gone well with me or my dice.
I get a lot of grief when I field six MC + Hive Tyrant and his trio of Tyrant guard, most likely due to my opponents mostly being green tide Ork players and foot guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 20:37:02
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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I get complaints abou- Oh wait a secound i dont! i play orks! HAR HAR
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 23:07:00
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Battleship Captain
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I got a lot of flak for taking 30 shoots boyz squads with big shootas. Just makes me sad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 23:07:28
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Freaky Flayed One
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phatonic wrote:I get complaints abou- Oh wait a secound i dont! i play orks! HAR HAR
My biggest complaint about orks (and nids) is they take FOREVER to deploy. Let's get on with the killing already!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/12 23:30:52
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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Oh, i almost forgot my cheesiest unit i've ever played and am experimenting with at the moment. The Halie-star. Ripped through an entire grey knight flank with them while keeping my 2++ re-rollable towards gun fire and then making the ultamate cheese vs his terminators in CC
Doom says re-roll to wound, it doesnt specify if it has to be un successful rolls. So when rolling for rends i just re rolled everything that wasnt a rend, 5's,4' included to get me a LOT more rends. I got some evils for that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 08:33:30
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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Hard to bring much complaint-worthy stuff as a BT  Or even as C: SM, really, but my BT to SM match ratio is still like 6:1 or something.
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Primary: Black Templars Crimson Fists Orks
Allied: Sisters of Battle Imperial Guard |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 09:27:21
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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As a Cron player myself, everyone i play against despises any tesla weapon i bring
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"Decadence Unbound..."
10,000+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 10:07:23
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Executing Exarch
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Lord Rogukiel wrote:People complain about my Eldar heavy support artillery sometimes...
Now that's funny.
I find it's D-weapons in general
On Wraithguard
What do you mean it hurts on a 2+? that's so OP! lol (12" range. so just ignore them and go somewhere else. Squad is 400pts)
On D-cannons
2+? what? it hurts vehicles on a 3+? That's op too (24" range no move and fire, so again, just avoid them (only 150 points = bargain lol)
I got my wraithguard invisibility, fortune and fnp on a 4+ in one game. That was called OP. Mind you, I'd spent almost 900 points on making one super unit. Which wasn't in range till turn 4...
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Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 10:11:57
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
Birmingham, AL
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Riddick40k wrote:As a Cron player myself, everyone i play against despises any tesla weapon i bring
Pretty much this. Playing against sisters of battle. saint celestine and a squad of seraphim are working their way towards me. she breaks from the squad and moves to engage a seperate squad of immortals while the seraphim hit my warrior + res orb lord blob. She charges the tesla immortals and i get 4  's on the overwatch, 11 of those hits wound. she fails enough saves to die. It was quite glorious. He got me back though. Later in the game he killed imhotek on an overwatch shot from a vindicare assassin.
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"The strength of a blade is tested by fire. The strength of a warrior is tested by actions."
4500 pts (1000 or so painted)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 11:33:36
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I play necrons. Everything I use I hear complaints. The top winner is "Everything Tesla" followed by "The 90 points AB". Third place: "I hate playing against an army that doesn't die!!!"
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 13:43:23
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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yarp i get complaints when i bring the storm raven out but then my counter argument is theres lots of flyers out there now that out point cost it so multiples can be had! but nooooo i pull out my storm raven and the cries of here comes the london bus ring out!
My brothers have grown to hate my eldar also! i don't see whats so bad about making zogwart roll 3 dice for psychic tests! same for any psyker! i take eldrad in every list if your playing eldar why take a psyker why not take something that can hit the eldar psyker hard and not gimp your self at the same time!
theres a counter to everything!
i personally don't like the doom or Draigo wing GK. but then my counter to them is vindicators and on mass melta guns! say hello to my Fire dragons bitch!
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Iron within... Iron without... We Kill in Perturabo's name
Armies:
Tau 2k W7/D1/L1 6Ed (Codex)
Iron Warriors 3k W2/D1/L1
Eldar 2k W30/L9 6Ed
Savage Orcs! 2k |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 14:05:41
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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My gaming group complains about my Sisters of Battle.
Armywide 6++? OP. Exorcist? Clearly not working as intended. Seraphim gunslingers? Broken. Acts of Faith? Cheatpoints. Celestine? There's practically a riot if I take her out of my multicase.
Even if they crush me, they spend the entire game wailing about how unfair my "WD fandex' army is. And this is all coming from a group that doesn't bat an eyelash if I pull out my 3x Vendetta guard list. I don't get it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 14:24:14
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Marrickville (sydney) NSW, Australia
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I don't hear much whining, but I do a little I'll admit. I can handle most of the necron dex... but feth it I HATE MINDSHACKLE SCARABS!!! If they were a one-use thing like a tachyon arrow or something fine. Ok. But every fething round? come on...
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ChrisWWII wrote:"Yea verily, though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil for I am driving a house sized mass of FETH YOU!"
themocaw wrote:I view slaanesh as a giant ball of boobs and genitalia of both sexes.
Edmondblack: There's something about some str10, AP2 blast weaponry which says "i love you" in that very special way. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 15:27:51
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Massive amounts of whining about my heldrake(s). Even if it's the last thing left on the board, and I lose on victory points, I never hear the end of it. Heaven forbid being able to effectively kill power armor!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 16:57:53
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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reiner wrote:Massive amounts of whining about my heldrake(s). Even if it's the last thing left on the board, and I lose on victory points, I never hear the end of it. Heaven forbid being able to effectively kill power armor!
More like heaven forbid wanting to fight fairly costed units instead of nutty cheesedrakes  Even in an army that isn't over the top otherwise, the Heldrake causes brain cancer.
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Primary: Black Templars Crimson Fists Orks
Allied: Sisters of Battle Imperial Guard |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 17:05:30
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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FreddieTau6 wrote:yarp i get complaints when i bring the storm raven out but then my counter argument is theres lots of flyers out there now that out point cost it so multiples can be had! but nooooo i pull out my storm raven and the cries of here comes the london bus ring out!
Those complaints are so funny to me. I've played against storm ravens multiple times, including the cheating psychic Grey Knight ones  , and have never been impressed with them.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 17:11:16
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Back in 5th, my Draigowing got lots of complaints, but to be fair, that was a very, very Rock-Paper-Scissors army. It was not exactly fun to play against.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 17:14:47
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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kronk wrote: FreddieTau6 wrote:yarp i get complaints when i bring the storm raven out but then my counter argument is theres lots of flyers out there now that out point cost it so multiples can be had! but nooooo i pull out my storm raven and the cries of here comes the london bus ring out!
Those complaints are so funny to me. I've played against storm ravens multiple times, including the cheating psychic Grey Knight ones  , and have never been impressed with them.
I find IG flyers more scary than stormraven due the point cost
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 17:15:51
Subject: Re:Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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wfischer wrote:My biggest complaint about orks (and nids) is they take FOREVER to deploy. Let's get on with the killing already! 
One of my most frustrating games of 40k was in the first round of an RTT in new game store, about 3 hours from where I live. I draw a nice guy who had only good arm, the other couldn't really do anything. Of course, he's playing horde orks. Using all AOBR sluggas, counting them as shootas. And he refused to simply add the run on to the movement. So I got to watch him use one hand to deploy, and move, and run, well over a hundred ork boys. Then, I'm surprised to find them all shoot at me on turn 2. He had told me they were shootas, but I forgot.
It's not like he was malicious or anything, but it was excruciatingly annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 18:36:41
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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reiner wrote:Massive amounts of whining about my heldrake(s). Even if it's the last thing left on the board, and I lose on victory points, I never hear the end of it. Heaven forbid being able to effectively kill power armor!
Loyalist Marine players I find tend be whiny, or at least, most of the local ones are.
Outside of my buddies, pretty much every local Marine player would declare that my Flamers were the most god-awful, OTT, broken unit in 40k.
Then the WD update hit, and now all these same Marine players have started adding Strikes and/or Interceptors to their lists when they see me or the couple of CSM players who've added in a few Daemon allies. (and the one CSM player has a themed Deathguard army, thus he doesn't even own any Flamers/Screamers!)
Emperor forbid that we should be able to actually kill a loyalist marine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 18:40:17
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Havingn not really played many games outside of my friends, I don't really hear complaints (I usually get crushed anyways, and when I do win, my army is full of things that make people laugh  ), but I'm going to be embarking on a planetary crusade with the Death Guard, and I'm going to be facing a horde of orkz. Lots of boyz in wagonz.
I have the feeling that my plague spam tarpit is about to cause a lot of frustration (suddenly it's a higher dice roll to wound, only 1/3 will die from an average attack, and 1/3 of THOSE won't even notice they're supposed to be dead  ).
I say this because I'm counting on the enemy vehicles getting in close, and will be spamming plague marines (with melta bombs + krack grenades for my only tankbusting), and them spamming on the anti-horde power.
I love playing counter-waaagh, it's my strongest forte.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 18:40:36
Subject: Is there a Model/Unit when you field it you nothing but complaints?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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My Executioner Russ got a reputation at my old LGS and a lot of complaints.
Never really understood why. It's not my fault everyone seems to like clustering up in nice small blast marker sized packages.
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Star Trek taught me so much. Like, how you should accept people, whether they be black, white, Klingon or even female...
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