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2013/03/05 04:43:03
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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It's almost as if they're afraid to talk to their customers if it isn't in the form of a "What's On Sale Today" blog entry.
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2013/03/05 04:45:09
Subject: Re:Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 jonolikespie wrote: draugadan wrote:I haven't read all 30+ pages. But it seems to me that Retailers are missing the mark. If it was my store I would be upset about the direct only sales of this supplement. However... there IS a way to not punish the customer and still "stick" it to GW.
So, if it were my store, I would purchase a store copy of the book and make it available to my customers for free. Customers get to use their flyer models, and should be all around happy. GW loses out on sales to every customer in that store. Seems pretty win/win to me.
I would continue to do so for all direct only rules books.
I think the problem with that is that people aren't getting annoyed about this particular book, but rather what it represents.
FLGS in the US have had a really good relationship with GW for years, but now it is clear that GW want to force the UK store structure on the US market. They don't want FLGS selling you models, they want you to be buying from GW stores only. having a store copy is all well and good for this release but what about when is becomes codexs?
Agree with this comment as I have been tracking their business model for quite a while know.
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2013/03/05 04:51:26
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Norn Queen
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 insaniak wrote:Given that they hide the FAQs away in their article section and never actually notify anyone when they are updated, that's really not that surprising.
That's true enough. Even my friend, who is plenty computer savvy, had no idea. When I pulled out the FAQ and showed him, he was pretty shocked (to be fair, the ruling went against him). I was more shocked he didn't know.
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2013/03/05 04:59:24
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Looks like this is back in stock.
Still any ideas as to whether this book changed points values?
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2013/03/05 05:01:32
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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insaniak wrote:Given that they hide the FAQs away in their article section and never actually notify anyone when they are updated, that's really not that surprising.
GW can send me a news letter every month bragging about their new products, but can't even notify me of FAQ updates.
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2013/03/05 06:12:01
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:Looks like this is back in stock.
Still any ideas as to whether this book changed points values?
Storm talon changed, don't ask me how but it did and I think it is the only one that did.
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 Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2013/03/05 06:26:15
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Has anyone else heard this going to normal retail stock? I didn't see I mentioned in the last couple pages but the guys who does the ordering of GW stuff at the flgs said the GW sales rep said it was going to be a standard stock item after they got the next printing in. Supposedly they simply didn't expect it to sell as well as it did and that's why it was direct only. ::shrug::
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2013/03/05 13:27:15
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Lockark wrote: insaniak wrote:Given that they hide the FAQs away in their article section and never actually notify anyone when they are updated, that's really not that surprising.
GW can send me a news letter every month bragging about their new products, but can't even notify me of FAQ updates.
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That would mean publicly admitting that something they did wasn't perfect...
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2013/03/05 14:24:13
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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 skyth wrote: Lockark wrote: insaniak wrote:Given that they hide the FAQs away in their article section and never actually notify anyone when they are updated, that's really not that surprising.
GW can send me a news letter every month bragging about their new products, but can't even notify me of FAQ updates.
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That would mean publicly admitting that something they did wasn't perfect...
Except they already do that on the FAQ page. Don't let that get in the way of your hyperbole though.
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2013/03/05 16:48:28
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,  AlmightyWalrus wrote: skyth wrote: Lockark wrote: insaniak wrote:Given that they hide the FAQs away in their article section and never actually notify anyone when they are updated, that's really not that surprising.
GW can send me a news letter every month bragging about their new products, but can't even notify me of FAQ updates.
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That would mean publicly admitting that something they did wasn't perfect...
Except they already do that on the FAQ page. Don't let that get in the way of your hyperbole though.
So why do you think they don't alert users to new FAQs?
Panic...
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2013/03/05 16:50:26
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Old Sourpuss
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Because they're a model company...
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2013/03/05 17:01:36
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Executing Exarch
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To sell the models you support it with rules, they can update it daily with nonsense no one reads but not an FAQ? Remember when they gave Dark Angels and Templar 3++ storm shields? Models flew off the shelf. That would be worth the slightest effort of informing people.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2013/03/06 04:53:22
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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 Ravenous D wrote:To sell the models you support it with rules, they can update it daily with nonsense no one reads but not an FAQ? Remember when they gave Dark Angels and Templar 3++ storm shields? Models flew off the shelf. That would be worth the slightest effort of informing people.
I am quite sure at this point GWs higher ups truly believe people play the game because they already have the models, not the other way around, and people will continue to buy models no matter what.
Going off on a tangent here but we were discussing GW trying to muscle out interdependent stores earlier, my FLGS is not getting any of the new daemons stuff until this Saturday, when I was in there last Saturday (release day) they didn't even have in any of the new white dwarfs and the move to shrink wrapping codexs/army books seems to hurt indy stores too since GW have open copies in their stores but I can now no longer flip through a book at my FLGS before buying it.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2013/03/06 06:24:43
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Squatting with the squigs
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 mikhaila wrote:
"Dropping GW sales? Really Mike? Wow, we are doing great, so is everyone else. tsk tsk".
I just started re reading this thread and the above quote really got my attention. Looks like a lot more ostrich and a lot less management is happening at GW
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2013/03/06 10:28:53
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Our flgs has gotten its White Dwarves a week late the last two months.
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2013/03/06 13:52:51
Subject: Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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My game store didn't even get in the FineCast Heralds.
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2013/03/06 15:16:59
Subject: Re:Retailers ban Death from the Skies
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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I think the original purpose of this thread has been served.
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