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Well it looks like the GW sales terms change have claimed a victim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPpfs120DA

although (according to the video) this is not the ONLY reason for the store closure


(MODS: I know there is a GW sales terms thread, but I think this may require one of its own, if you disagree feel free to move this)

This is odd. They still carry other company's products. As well as their own Dark Potential game.

Most retail stores are on tight margins, game stores tend to be even closer to the line between keeping the lights on and closing shop.

For a shop like MWG, they probably made close to 50% of their sales from GW products and probably 90% of those sales through online customers. If you figure that they get 35% of the sales for their revenue...little bit of math, carry the two...the new terms just cut 15% off the top of their business. Since I doubt they have a few hundred people they can lay off or a warehouse or two that they can downsize, then it causes most stores to close down.

I doubt they will be the last either, as a number of other stores will be put in the same position as a result of one clause or another in the new terms.

They are giving away all 14 of their dvds. I've got some of them already, might be worth it to pick it up. Shame they're closing, they grated on me after awhile, but they're good guys and they generally try to have fun with the game.

This is why everyone hates GW

Well, how long before others decide to go this route? GW is not the end all, but their restrictions will probably end up pushing more companies to quit rather than fight and lose profits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPpfs120DA

Well said

Already covered in this thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/514316.page

edit: And I know you called that out, but we are specifically discussing MWG's video in the last page or so of that thread.

 WarOne wrote:
Well, how long before others decide to go this route? GW is not the end all, but their restrictions will probably end up pushing more companies to quit rather than fight and lose profits.

June 1st would be my guess. It gives them time to burn through stock and possibly run some sales near the end. Since the new rules dont go into place till the 15th of June, I would guess most companies will wait till then to make announcements that they will be shutting down.

I'm not Canadian, but I really liked these guys. They made nice videos and I occasionally watched them. Their retort to last year's price hike was also beautiful.

Good to know they're only shutting down a store and not going away completely.

MWG was another big factor that brought me back to WHFB...I loved their batreps and they were pretty sympathic people. And that's coming from a German :/

I'm pretty damn happy I got one full army for each system and one of it is 100% second hand. Because feck you GW!

Sad to see them go. Hope they can keep Dark Potential and the videos going. They did say that the vault was a big money maker for them, so I may look into that.

Anyways, good luck to them, and anyone else want to participate in a futile bought of letter writing?

That sucks. I wish the MWG guys the best of luck. I love watching their batreps.


This is apparently how GW intends to "protect and grow The Hobby (TM 'Hobby' copyright GW 1980)".

A major win for GW I bet they're happy about getting rid of loyal enthusiasts like this.

Let's go to GW's facebook site and tell them about what we think of t....

..oh.

I just passed an order with them to help them with their stocks and this will officially be my last purchase of new stuff from GW.
Used purchases from eBay from now on. I can only vote my disaproval with my wallet and that's the only option I have since I am hooked to this game.

 Alfndrate wrote:
They are giving away all 14 of their dvds.

Where did you see this?

 Breotan wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
They are giving away all 14 of their dvds.

Where did you see this?

The video he uploaded after the big 26 minute one. I'd post it, but I can't grab the url

GW are trying to get people to go to their webstore or in their stores by shafting the smaller companies little knowing that they are infact making it worse for themselves by doing these stupid things.

All they will do is end up alienating customers who resent them as it is just even more so. Good game GW, good game

The DVD givaway is a 'trial' for which you have to provide a CC/Paypal account, and will roll into a subscription if you don't cancel in time

http://www.miniwargaming.com/freedvds

not something I'm interested in, but if you're on the ball enough to record the content and cancel in time....

(I've no idea how easy it will be to cancel, some 'trials' make it difficult/impossible. I've no evidence that this is the case here, but it is a potential concern)

Why bother? If the tutorials are good, then pay them for making them and just download new ones as they come out.

MWG got me into 40k and fantasy. Love their batreps. Apocalipicon last year was 500,000 points. Sad to see them having to close up the online store. Hope they stick around.

Good ol' GW protecting their retailers!

I love the Battle Reports like so many others. They really have done a lot to spread the hobby on youtube. It is sad to see this happen.

Motograter wrote:
GW are trying to get people to go to their webstore or in their stores by shafting the smaller companies little knowing that they are infact making it worse for themselves by doing these stupid things.

All they will do is end up alienating customers who resent them as it is just even more so. Good game GW, good game

There isn't an official GW store within 3 hours drive of where I live. And paying full retail for this kits is out of the question. So if that is their strategy they just lost me completely.

The way things are going, I can fully continue to play 40k based on 3rd party sellers alone. Hell, I can even build most of a 30k FW army now without FW or GW models.

I love their IP. I love the 40k lore. I will keep up with the HH books and other BL books.

But I can continue participating in 40k in my local area by only buying rule books. My existing armies (including unassembled kits) will last me a long while and I can buy enough 3rd party proxies to grow and adapt my SM armies for a long time.

 SickSix wrote:


There isn't an official GW store within 3 hours drive of where I live. And paying full retail for this kits is out of the question. So if that is their strategy they just lost me completely.

That doesn't make sense.

If you're living in the US, as your dakka-flag implies, you've been living under the exact same GW rules that now got imposed on Canada for the last 10 years.

No changes for you.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 SickSix wrote:


There isn't an official GW store within 3 hours drive of where I live. And paying full retail for this kits is out of the question. So if that is their strategy they just lost me completely.

That doesn't make sense.

If you're living in the US, as your dakka-flag implies, you've been living under the exact same GW rules that now got imposed on Canada for the last 10 years.

No changes for you.

Not exactly, plenty of stores have been using various workarounds to avoid the internet ban that went in place back in 2003. In fact, right now if you go to the US Amazon site you can find no less than 2 dozen companies who are selling GW products through Amazon. Other companies have been using distributors who did not have the follow on ban in place and where able to buy from a distributor and sell online, and finally you had the variety of stores who utilized eBay and sites like that to sell whole (or nearly whole) kits...which is now also banned.

I've only bought from MWG once on a huge Mantic sale they were running, but I've watched a bunch of their youtube videos, they've been very informative, and they seem like a friendly group of guys. It's sad to see them close up shop. I really thought this new GW rule wouldn't end up really affecting anybody, and now I see that I'm wrong. Matt, my condolences to you and your crew, as it was very obvious from the video how upset you were and how much conflict you were going through on what to say. I applaud your ability to not lambaste GW with the vitriol they deserve for this decision, but you've risen above them.

GW, if you do read this, you are forcing guys out who promote your company far better than you do, and they are responsible for prolonging your life. When the end does come, you'll have nobody to blame but yourself. You truly do need to stop taking other people down with you.

This is disappointing as I never like to see businesses go under especially ones that are conducting good business.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 SickSix wrote:


There isn't an official GW store within 3 hours drive of where I live. And paying full retail for this kits is out of the question. So if that is their strategy they just lost me completely.

That doesn't make sense.

If you're living in the US, as your dakka-flag implies, you've been living under the exact same GW rules that now got imposed on Canada for the last 10 years.

No changes for you.

But you missed the intent in the post I quoted: (paraphrase) 'GW is pushing everyone into their stores and website'

Also, see Sean's post above.