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Man, gak nights all around lads

 Alfndrate wrote:
Man, gak nights all around lads

Yeah, I'm hoping to break top 4 tomorrow, but it may be Top 8 depending on how many people show up. Not a lot did today, because of the PTQ that was going on. I didn't really feel like playing 8 rounds of Magic, with only the top 32 getting product. Granted, it would be like 146 boosters, but still.


Just need to make some Tweaks.

What do you guys think of this deck?

http://mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/798964

I immediately hate you because of the Urza stuff...

You are also 20 cards short...

Sorry about that.

Filled in some more cards, not sure what kind of spells to put in for the rest of it though. Need some Spells/enchants....

I played both days of game day, won three and lost two on both. Day one was my black-green zombies, day two white-green-red humans. Both deck are fast but the humans especially so. Two of the three matches I won with them were over in under 15 minutes. I lost twice to control decks, I just can't deal 20 damage fast enough, I can do a lot but typically there's table wipe on turn four or five and planeswalkers like Liliana come out to kill humans coming out mid game and beyond, or force me to discard cards.

Got second place today, so eight boosters.

Pulled an Obzedat and Breeding pool, the rest were junky.

Wanted that Matt though!

Friday night I drafted, wound up with a decent W/B deck after I first-picked Opportunity and then blue dried up like three picks later. Just went 1/1/1; my last opponent was slow. We played it out and I would have won.

Saturday I was interested in the game day, but it was also the Feast of Blades qualifier for NH, so I naturally had to do that. Gotta have your priorities in order. Managed to win that, including a 1pt victory over Eldar in the final.

Today the wife was not up for hiking, so I went ahead and hit the Games Day. I had put together a half-decent Selesnya aggro/lifegain deck (4 voice, 4 advent, 4 loxodon smiter, etc.) then one of the local guys kindly helped me tweak it and lent me some cards to make it better (2x Garruk Relentless, 2 Gavony Township, 2 Trostani, a few other things).

First round got a bunny draw- 2/0 in about ten minutes or so. Blue/White nice draft.dec; the guy had just gotten back into Magic this week after long away.

Second round played one of the good local standard players running U/W/R flash/control. Went three games and went to time, but he managed to finish me before the five overtime turns were over.

Third round Jesse, a very nice young lady I've been matched up against a few times; she beat me in a Prerelease final, I've beaten her a few times in draft. She had a similar deck to me, only she also had black, and had ALL of the big money green/white cards. So add Scavenging Ooze, Archangel of Thune, Kalonian Hydra to my concept, then Obzedat Ghost Council & Blood Baron of Vizcopa, plus a bit of black removal. Scary stuff. I lost 0/2.

Fourth round David Berthiuame, who was last year's Games Day champ (beat him and you got a pack ) and the guy who helped me with my deck and lent me cards. There were five rounds then cut to 8, and we knew with the 20 players we had, a 3/2 record could possibly qualify with good tiebreaks, so we promised each other that we'd both win the next round, so the winner of our match would have the best chances to qualify. He was running U/W/R control. We went three games and I eked it out, amusingly putting the third game away in part thanks to Ground Seal from my sideboard preventing him from geting an answer out of his graveyard using Snapcaster Mage. David lent me the 2 Ground Seals.

Round 5, Dave Howell another veteran player, running Aristocrats. He beat me down pretty hard in game one, but I came back strong and smashed his stuff in the next two.

Tiebreaks came down in my favor and I qualified for top 8! As the eighth seed, though, so paired against the top seed. Ouch. Still, got my Goblin Diplomats and at least four packs, so not bad!

Quarterfinal I was paired against the top seed, the other female player, Ariel, running Brian Kibler's Red/Green Aggro list from Worlds. My deck matched up against it extremely well, and despite her going first and me mulliganning game 1, I won, after a long slog of a game with lots of board development and lifegain racing against her Thundermaw, closing it out with Trostani populating Wurm tokens. Game two I had to mull twice and couldn't recover; quick beatdown. Game three again was a big long board/game, but I got the combo of Trostani populating Voice Elemental tokens on a stacked board, with Garruk pumping out wolves, and closed it out.

Semifinal round, rematch against Jesse and her Junk Big Good Stuff deck. Game one I got smoked; double Archangel of Thune turns 5/6. Game two I got a better board and got through; Voices, Wurms, Smiters, Silverblade pally. Game three we had a nice reasonably lengthy contest, but she got the Hydra going with Gavony Township, and I couldn't draw any of the roughly eight answers to it I had in my deck (Celestial Flare, Oblivion Ring, Selesnya Charm). Dead. Peeked at my library and found two darn Flares sitting on top. Darn.

Still, 4th place and winning a total of 9 packs (one from beating David) was not bad! Especially considering that I've now played all of four Standard tournaments this year (last time before that was 1998), and almost no practice games.

Fun times.

The Orzhov deck that I lost two was running Aristocrats and Blood Artists... I had no answer to it

Tweaked my Slivers a bit, hopefully to get them a bit more of a punch. Megantic Sliver was pulled out due to never drawing it

Here are my two deck lists as they leave standard

Zombies

4x Gravecrawler
4x Lotleth Troll
4x Geralf's Messenger
4x Deathrite Shaman
4x Dreg Mangler
4x Vampire Nightawk
4x Altar's Reap
4x Doomblade
2x Abrupt Decay
2x Sign in Blood
2x Rancor
2x Slitherhead

4x Overgrown Tomb
4x Woodland Cemetery
2x Cavern of Souls
10x Swamp

(Sideboard)
4x Gaze of granite
4x Appetite for Brains
4x Golgari Charm
2x Murder
1x Grim Return


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Humans

4x Champion of the Parish
4x Avacyn's Pilgrim
4x Burning Tree Emissary
4x Hamlet Captain
4x Mayor of Avabruck
4x Silverblade Paladin
2x Lightning Mauler
2x Daring Skyjek
4x Rancor
2x Boros Charm
2x Selesnya Charm
4x Thatcher Revolt

3x Cavern of Souls
4x Temple Garden
4x Sacred Foundry
2x Stomping Ground
2x Sunpetal Grove
1x Clifftop Retreat
1x Rootbound Crag
2x Forest
1x Plains


(Sideboard)
2x Boros Charm
2x Oblivion Ring
2x Rest in Peace
4x Bonds of Faith
2x Boros Reckoner
2x Ray of Revelation
1x Ratchet Bomb

Hey guys, could you help me with this naya token deck... I've been having some real trouble building and balancing this one... there are so many card options -_-

Here's what I have so far:

4 Gruul Guildgate
4 Selesnya Guildgate
4 Boros Guildgate
4 Forest
4 Plains
4 Mountain

4 Crusader of Odric
2 Archangel of Thune
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
2 Elvish Mystic
2 Druid of the Anima

4 Assemble the Legion
4 Honor of the Pure
4 Gather the Townsfolk
4 Parallel Lives
4 Mayael's Aria
4 Beastmaster Ascension

62 Cards


In my experience there are two types of token decks, there are decks that populate huge tokens, then there are decks like this that make tons of tokens, and then buff them - which is what I'm trying to do.

Your terminology is a little off... you have 20 enchantments and 4 sorcery cards.

I can see what you're doing with Mayael's Aria and Beastmaster Ascension, but I don't think they're really all that useful atm. You're talking about generating lots of tokens, which is great and buffing them is fantastic, but I think you're not going to get a lot of return. And you also don't need as much red mana in your deck as you think you do. I would change the gates out for their shockland versions. I know you said you want to keep this to a budget, but you're spending 80 dollars on the Archangels of Thune... so budget might be the wrong term to be using here

I'd personally drop the red all together, go selesnya, and look to going human soldier and populate. Possibly picking up these:
in place of the the Crusader of Odric.

Idk... these are just the thoughts I'm having atm... I might have more collected thoughts later in the evening.

Fair enough, the reason I love red so much is Assemble the Legion. Do you think there is anywhere I could keep this as naya? The more I look at it, the more it looks like I'll have to drop red.... but assemble the legion is so cool haha.

There were also a few other cards I was looking at including rubblebelt raiders, elspeth tirel, and true conviction

If you're looking to keeping it Naya, drop some of the green enchants, put some Boros Charms in there, and add some creatures that can battalion that way you can buff those little tokens when you attack with lots of stuff... The Boros charms are insane in that you can attack with everything, and make all of your permanents (this includes tokens) indestructible for the combat (also useful for blocking.

I've looked at my cards, had some ideas, remade the deck to be selesnya:

10 Forest
10 Plains

4 Crusader of Odric
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
2 Elvish Mystic
4 Wayfaring Temple
2 Goldnight Commander
2 Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage

4 Gather the Townsfolk
4 Parallel Lives
4 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Growing Ranks
4 Miming Slime
2 Advent of the Wurm

Miming slime can be like my cheap-man's Voice of Resurgence giving me some powerful tokens to populate... potentially tokens better than Crusaders of Odric because Beastmaster Ascension and Goldnight Commander will be buffing the crusaders of odric / wayfaring temples up.

I'm going to be doing a few m14 drafts in the near future, so I will hopefully either get, or trade for, the Archangels of Thune... lets see how my luck goes.

Bear in mind that the Parallel Lives is leaving standard soon, and that's the strongest thing in this deck. I had a selesnya deck that splashed black to use Lingering Souls. Between four of those, four Advent of the Wurm and four Call of the Conclave, it was pretty wild when doubling tokens. You quickly ramp with elves and Avacyn's Pilgrim. If you really want to drive it home there's Collective Blessing, which is costly but manageable with ramp. But I didn't need it, because masses of Wurms and Centaurs are enough.

Big issue with all this is Ratchet Bomb. Which can clear the table of tokens for just two mana and there's little you can do about it, unless you are able to make things indestructible, eg Boros Charm, but you need to splash red and have it ready in your hand and mana free to cast it.

Gonna start working on an EDH deck... No clue where to start

I'm honestly thinking of a mono-green beast deck... big things fast

Think about card draw, you'll need to spend that mana on something. There are lots of green creatures and enchantments that say things like 'when a creature enters the battlefield draw a card', 'if you have the biggest creature draw a card'. That way you can keep pulling and playing cards. Also don't just think about big creatures, there are things that produce many creatures, like Wolfbriar Elemental. More mana, more wolves.

Got a deck list? I'm so confused on this format because it goes against everything I learned about magic.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Gonna start working on an EDH deck... No clue where to start

I'm honestly thinking of a mono-green beast deck... big things fast

My best EDH deck is mono green Ezuri.

It gets out of the gate really quickly and can usually recover quickly also due to all my mana elves.

This is what I started as, not sure what's in it now. I've switched out a few things.

Ezuri, Renegade Leader

Creatures


Artifacts


Enchants


Sorceries


Instants


Pretty fun if you like elves. I bolded cards that routinely have a hand in winning games.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Gonna start working on an EDH deck... No clue where to start

I'm honestly thinking of a mono-green beast deck... big things fast

If you want mono green beats, start with Azusa, Lost but Seeking as your general - she's probably the best way to reliably start dropping fatties quick in EDH.

I first picked up a red/white deck from avacyn returns (or some set like that) and played with that for a while until I got bored at not having any powerful creature spells (like a true newbie). As it turns out, Gatecrash was about to be released, and after many dilemmas and hours spent deciding what deck to get I chose Gruul. Gruul suited my playstyle very well as it was very aggressive and had every powerful creature I could ever dream of, turns out I made a great choice and I love every game I use my Gruul green and red deck in.

Trying to work out a Standard Gruul deck. I came up with this:

10 Forest
10 Mountain

4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Firefist Striker
4 Rubblebelt Raiders
4 Flinthoof Boar
4 Wild Beastmaster

4 Rancor
4 Madcap Skills
4 Fling
4 Act of Treason

I have trawled ebay and amazon, and I can build this deck for $15. Anything cheap that would be good to add to this deck? I could drop the flings and act of treason, as there is very little chance I would be able to use them effectively and work on putting in phytoburst/titanic growth..

Rubblebelt and beastmasters are there mid to late game presence, if needed.

 The Bringer wrote:
Trying to work out a Standard Gruul deck. I came up with this:

10 Forest
10 Mountain

4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Firefist Striker
4 Rubblebelt Raiders
4 Flinthoof Boar
4 Wild Beastmaster

4 Rancor
4 Madcap Skills
4 Fling
4 Act of Treason

I have trawled ebay and amazon, and I can build this deck for $15. Anything cheap that would be good to add to this deck? I could drop the flings and act of treason, as there is very little chance I would be able to use them effectively and work on putting in phytoburst/titanic growth..

Rubblebelt and beastmasters are there mid to late game presence, if needed.

You'd probably want 4 Stomping Grounds, and 4 Rootbound Crags. The Crags should be relatively cheap, although they are cycling out here in October. I'm also

You want Ghor-clan Rampagers for the Bloodrush, it's a must have in an Aggro deck. Scavenging Oozes are absolutely gold as well. I personally don't like Fling or Act of Treason.

Elvish Mystics, and Arbor Elves are also good, and help fill out your 1 drops. Kalonian Hydras are also pretty good.

Here is Brian Kiblers G/W which I believe got second in the World Championship this year.

http://www.mtgvault.com/kingconquer/decks/gr-aggro-kibler-style/

Wowww, his deck is almost exactly what I was aspiring to do. Shame dark ascension is leaving standard soon... still though, I'm totally going with Ghor-Clan Rampagers and Strangleroot Geists. I'm going to be doing some m14 drafts soon, so if my luck is with me, I might be able to get a scavenging ooze or two. Every draft I've ever done I've had enough luck to pull quite a few expensive cards (foil VoR last time )

I'd love to get domri rade in this deck too... I just don't have that kind of money since I'm going back to college soon.

 The Bringer wrote:
Wowww, his deck is almost exactly what I was aspiring to do. Shame dark ascension is leaving standard soon... still though, I'm totally going with Ghor-Clan Rampagers and Strangleroot Geists. I'm going to be doing some m14 drafts soon, so if my luck is with me, I might be able to get a scavenging ooze or two. Every draft I've ever done I've had enough luck to pull quite a few expensive cards (foil VoR last time )

I'd love to get domri rade in this deck too... I just don't have that kind of money since I'm going back to college soon.

If you've got 10 bucks, I suggest buying 2014 Duel of the Planeswalkers on Steam, it comes with a code to get a promo Scavenging Ooze. The normal ooze is like 10 bucks, the promo is like 24, and you get a game with it .

Speaking of a Gruul Deck, I've been toying with one, I'll update you on it's progress here shortly (still writing up the decklist/finalizing it)/

Wait, like this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNUSED-STEAM-CODE-Promo-code-Scavenging-Ooze-foil-voucher-MTG-Magic-DotP-2014-/221267770389

And is a voucher for a physical Scav. Ooze or DotP Scav. Ooze?

Physical Scavenging Ooze, I've yet to claim mine yet, but I will be this Friday.

Will gaming stores accept multiple vouchers? If so I'm buying 4 on ebay, and it would only be ~$14

Edit: I just contacted my local gaming store, they still have the promo-packs, and will let me redeem multiple vouchers there -_-

 The Bringer wrote:
Will gaming stores accept multiple vouchers? If so I'm buying 4 on ebay, and it would only be ~$14

Technically they should... They have the stock and supply (while supplies last). Are you basing your gruul deck off of the m14 Event Deck?