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Things I like: Bestow, Devotion (interesting mechanic, I don't like the spoilered black Devotion), Heroic

Things I don't like: Monstrous, it's too expensive for a moderate bonus. Though the Kraken's monstrous is nice, because detain is more annoying that people think

So far, a lot of this stuff is really expensive for it's effects.

I wonder if it's going to turn into longer games.

The God Enchantments will steer some people toward Monocolor it appears.

I don't think it'll be for longer games, everyone will up the mana ramp. No one wants games that take longer than 10 turns at their longest simply because as each turn passes the chances of your opponent getting the card he needs slowly approaches 1. I like longer games as I feel they're more tense, and kind of rewarding. I hate games where one player ends the game with 20 life, having never been touched.

Wizards have mentioned slowing down standard with Theros. I would love a return to mono decks being competitive. Players have become too spoiled with the overabundance of color fixers.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Wizards have mentioned slowing down standard with Theros. I would love a return to mono decks being competitive. Players have become too spoiled with the overabundance of color fixers.

I wouldn't mind mono decks becoming a thing I like single color, because then you generally know what you're facing. multi-color just looks at you and throws the worst of both colors at you

Granted, Red Deck Wins and White Weenie has always been around, and always will, but monoblue, black, and green would be nice to see in big tournaments again.

Went 4-0 Tonight, Pretty happy!

More Theros stuff is coming out of the Woodworks! looking good so far!

Can you guys help me with my new commander deck I'm building.

Here is the rough draft. Child of Alara is my commander. I need to shave off about 20 cards:
http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/836067

Please don't suggest shocklands, I really don't appreciate the utility they give for how expensive they are.

I'm really liking bestow and devotion. All the bestow cards spoilers so far seem just fine casting them for thei straight creature cost. Not to mention if you bestow them on a creature, and the creature dies, your enchantment becomes a creature instead of going to the graveyard too. Here's the official spoiler-

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/theros/cig

Jesus H. Christ, are you guys seeing this crap they spoilered today?!?

Devotion is going to be absolutely broken! I WANT THAT MANA DORK!

How is Devotion going to be absolutely broken? There are enough ways to remove enchantments.

Did you not see that green Mana Dork? (Tap: Add one green mana equal to your devotion to green. 1/4)

Or the black merchant guy? (When he enters the battlefield, each opponent loses X life and you gain X life, where X is equal to your Devotion to Black.)

That stuff is pretty BA in mono colored decks.

You can accelerate the green guy out second turn, next turn drop a GGG, then tap him for an additional 5 mana. It would be interesting- but you still only have so many cards in hand, and you have quite possibly overextended yourself. It makes you extremely open to wrath effects. The black devotion card doesn't strike me as being overpowered either- more like a corrupt on a body. In some instances, it's worse.

 Slarg232 wrote:
Did you not see that green Mana Dork? (Tap: Add one green mana equal to your devotion to green. 1/4)

Or the black merchant guy? (When he enters the battlefield, each opponent loses X life and you gain X life, where X is equal to your Devotion to Black.)

That stuff is pretty BA in mono colored decks.

I'd agree it's BA, but 5 mana is expensive to drop for that ability.

I feel like these guys are too expensive for what they can do. I could see the Acolyte being used as a means to buff monstrous, idk... I'd have to see it in action.

A lot of the spoiled cards coming out, are really nice!

Thoughtseize!!!

Omen Speaker is going to be pretty good, as a somewhat replacement for Auger.

Really happy with what I'm seeing.

Dual Colored Gods are confirmed in the next two blocks, so we may see a shift toward that after this block.


From the Spoiled stuff, W/U and R/G are looking really strong, as well as straight up Green.

Going to have to see the dual lands, before we can see if Tri-color survives.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
You can accelerate the green guy out second turn, next turn drop a GGG, then tap him for an additional 5 mana. It would be interesting- but you still only have so many cards in hand, and you have quite possibly overextended yourself. It makes you extremely open to wrath effects. The black devotion card doesn't strike me as being overpowered either- more like a corrupt on a body. In some instances, it's worse.

It's green, the more mana they have the bigger creatures they can get, the bigger creatures they get the more likely they are to win.

Corrupt affects target opponent, the Merchant affects ALL opponents. Corrupt is affected by numbers of swamps (Which black can't accelerate at all by itself; still limited to one per turn), where as Black; Dark Ritual into Any card like Underworld Dreams (BBB) and you can seriously ramp up the damage. Also, Liliana and Crypt Ghasts can accel the mana department, allowing you to get more cards out per turn to power it.

Also, two copies of Merchants, one dies, use Rescue from the Underworld to sacrifice one, then bring both back for double the tapping XD

Edit: Maybe it's just the Johnny in me geeking out about em XD

Corrupt also doubles as creature removal- the merchant only affects opponents. Agreed that the merchant would probably be better in multiplayer, but there are fewer things that affect the number of your swamps than your other permanents. One disenchant or naturalize and your merchant went from 5 damage to 2. Of course, that depends on if your opponent has the answer.
I'm really excited about all these myself, I just don't see them as broken or overpowered.
I'm still waiting to see what dual lands this block will have- it's rumored to be a full cycle of Nimbus Maze lands from Future Sight. Of course that's just what I've read.

Holy Balls, the new Planeswalker is nuts. Xenagos, The reveler is just insane.

The New dragon is also a nice replacement for Thundermaw!

Yeah, I foresee Xenagos being worth a pretty penny. The art for that dragon is awesome. I love the lightning crackling out of his mouth. I really like most of the art for this set actually.

I'm really liking the cards revealed so far.

Tough choices ahead! I'm not sure if I'd want to run a W/B/U or B/U/G deck come rotation.

I'm liking a lot of what I'm seeing!

Ashiok is pretty cool, and someone on the MTG salvation forums did some excellent math with how quickly you can win, if you just mill even a little bit! it's pretty darn cool.

Would WotC do another print of Vraska?

I mean, Gorgons fit quite nicely into the set's theme. Plus, she's my second favorite planeswalker (Sorin being number one).

Wasn't there a Vraska in Ravnica? That seems odd if they'd do a new printing of her. But who am I to say

So far they've shown a u/b, r/g, and a white planeswalker. That covers all five colors, so I kinda doubt there will be another at least in this set.

Master of Waves makes my U/G Elemental AND my Horde of Notions Commander very happy

Well, the Dual lands have been revealed.

Not quite sure how I feel about them, but I am a bit disappointed. I was really hoping for a Nimbus Maze cycle.

Looks like Tri-color may be dead. I think I'm still going to try with either BUG or WUB though.

The new Gorgon is pretty outstanding though!

Not sure why tricolor would be dead- slower maybe. You still have all the ravnica shocklands, and this new cycle may be slower but it will smooth out draws. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out at the least.

Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx seems cool, but I'm pretty underwhelmed by the dual lands in Theros...

a 'rare' card that is basically a guildgate + scry 1.

Now scry is useful, but not giving me a way to bring that land in untapped is annoying...

They'll be a cheap way to help smooth out your draws without any additional investment. There are also only so many ways they can design a land to have an option to enter untapped. The rare lands from here on out may all be more like this- part of the supposed slowdown.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Not sure why tricolor would be dead- slower maybe. You still have all the ravnica shocklands, and this new cycle may be slower but it will smooth out draws. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out at the least.

Because having half your lands always EBT,and having to pay 2 life for the others, is pretty crippling in three colors. Remember, Tri-color doesn't use basic lands, so this is pretty much the deathblow to it.

 Sasori wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Not sure why tricolor would be dead- slower maybe. You still have all the ravnica shocklands, and this new cycle may be slower but it will smooth out draws. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out at the least.

Because having half your lands always EBT,and having to pay 2 life for the others, is pretty crippling in three colors. Remember, Tri-color doesn't use basic lands, so this is pretty much the deathblow to it.

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That might be my problem with my Sliver deck