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Definitely can't comment until you get a sideboard up. Sideboard is almost as important as the actual deck (For instance, I would leave Young Pyromancer in the Sideboard, swap out with Guttersnipe if needed during an actual game.)

I'll think of one here..... I planned on a sideboard, especially for this deck, but I havent fully decided on what I want in it, but definitely young pyromancers will be in it. But now i gotta find them....... hopefully i didnt lose them.....


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alright.... for the sideboard, I'll have the young pyromancers, doom blades, ultimate price(?), maybe shock?, any other ideas?? Whats a good black or red standard creature, instant, or sorcery that might help? maybe Mogis? for creature control? or Chandras phoenix, so that i canbring it back whenever i cast an instant or sorcery that deals damage? or maybe the 1 drop thrull with extort? I'll look around some more also. But remember, I'd like it to be 4 mana, or below..... since i dont really want to fix the mana base much anymore.


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any ideas?

Alrighty......... well......since i have been thinking about other possibilities for my next standard, i was thinking of maybe using the same type of theme, control, like my rakdos deck idea, but make it black/white, (i will provide a link down below) and maybe just play like that....or.....just use pithing needles in my izzet standard, which you can comment on when you see the deck and see where it could fit, or i'll just sideboard them.
black/white control, alternative to rakdos control


http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/pay-your-penance/

izzet standard, maybe add or sideboard pithing needles?


http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/izzet-standard/

Oh sorry, didn't see your amended post. Doomblade and shock sound like good bets. I'd imagine your deck would have trouble against a dedicated aggro deck, so more anti-creature spells would be ideal.

As for your penance deck, it seems to be alright. I didn't take the time to break it down, but at a cursory glance it seems fine.

I would not add the Pithing needles to your Izzet deck myself, I don't think they add anything. Maybe sideboard at best, if you're having trouble with activated abilities.

Yeah, I was thinking that also, that the needles wouldnt do well in the izzet deck, but yeah, i was thinking drown in sorrow for the anti-creature stuff also, since it gives all creatures -2/-2, and as a little benefit i can scry 1, but it would be nice to kill off some stuff. Also, the penance deck its really supposed to just shutdown the game, while acting as a tax collector, by taking away their vital resources, such as cards in their hands, life taken by using extort, and creatures, that could be pacified, and/or enchanted with things that can harm the controller. What might be some other good anti-creature spells that might work well in the rakdos deck?

Yeah, thats pretty much how its supposed to go, but until i finish my 2nd standard, my izzet deck is going to be my main deck, besides my mill deck for modern/legacy, which is a lot of fun...... My friend wants me to join the competitive team at our local store, but there is a monthly fee, but my friend said he could wave it for me, idk y, but he said it would be fine if i didnt really pay, would this maybe be a good idea
? The izzet deck would be my main deck if i join, but would it be a good idea? I am on the fence, since I have to go to practices for other stuff i'm in, but maybe I'll have some time.....

I think you should- you can learn from the experience. More matches with better opponents really improves your game. I wouldn't turn it down.

Yeah, it would be cool, maybe ill see when the next meeting is, but then again, my friend who is actually the guy in charge of it, he really pushes on people to buy really expensive cards for their deck, that would work fine without them.... ( I know he just wants to help, but I never have like $100 or so to grab a play set of shocklands... so i usually have to save up some $$$) but otherwise, yeah, i'll have to check wat the team all entails, and i'll have to update you guys once i find out some moreabout what decks are played, etc

Yeah, there is a steep price involved when you play standard competitively. Usually there's a cheap deck floating around that still competes- you just have to find it.

Just had an explosive game of Commander. This is what happened first turn.

Jarad: Play a Overgrown Tomb, go.

Azusa: Play a Forest, Sol Ring, Exile Elvish Mystic for G, play Azusa, play Forest. Go.

Damia: Play a Island, Sol Ring, Simic Signet. Go.

Dralnu: Play a Swamp, Dark Ritual, Sinkhole targetting Overgrown Tomb, Sol Ring, Dimir Signet.


Game was over in four turns, with Damia Tooth and Nailing out Treskillion + Mikeaus the Unhollowed.

I tweaked my wort edh deck:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/worts-boggarts/

Tell me wot you tink.

I personally think that bloodshot mentor, festering goblin, goblin sledder, facevaulter, ring of valkas and boubling cauldron are a bit "meh".

Mentor would be kinda bad even if I included dralnu's crusade.
facevaulter, sledder and festering goblin are are not that powerfull in edh but they are cheap to play which makes them nice chump blockers and sacrifice fodder.
Cauldron has been usefull but I don't utilize it to the fullest and something like trading post might be better (although post costs 4 mana). Something like cauldron of souls might be an interesting replacement
Ring of Valkas has never been that impressive but haste is always good.

Probably the biggest issue I have is mana ramping. There have been many times where I only have like 3-4 mana to play with. While 4 is all I need, playing the more luxury stuff like door, mask and fireshrieker becomes difficult.
On the other hand replacing some creatures with more mana would mean I lose the super usefull utility I gain from creatures/other cards.

You won't he able to ramp much in red and black. You can use Sol Ring and similar, Veinfire Borderpost. Braid of Fire is good. There's one shot ramp such as Geosurge in red and Dark Ritual in black which was banned at one time but is rather less potent in commander.

Alrighty......does anyone know a good standard golgari budget deck? like something that could win a lot, but wont make me spend much? something that can easily and quickly kill and terrorize my opponents? maybe i'll come up with something.... and i'll add in desecration demons also....... would a golgari control deck work?


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I already have much of what i may need, like pithing needles, read the bones for draw power, and i'll probably pick up the new duel deck set for a vraska, or pick up 2 of them for 2 vraskas?

I used to have a lot of fun with Lotleth Troll, but not so much after Gravecrawler left standard.

or i'll just stick with the rakdos control deck im developing....maybe black/blue control with 2 jace, architect of thoughts? and desecration demons, etc? maybe some ashioks?


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i thought about using lotleth troll also, but idk....

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
You won't he able to ramp much in red and black. You can use Sol Ring and similar, Veinfire Borderpost. Braid of Fire is good. There's one shot ramp such as Geosurge in red and Dark Ritual in black which was banned at one time but is rather less potent in commander.

Sol ring might be a good addition.

Braid of fire is almost completely useless because most of my things are sorcery speed (I only have 1 instant in the entire deck). Only armsdealer would benefit from braid of fire.

BTW if I'm forced to sac something (eg. because of mogis) and I sack squee, can I then pick squee to my hand from graveyard?

Well............................I'm still looking for a good 2nd standard deck.......... and i recently made this deck on the vault, (mtgvault) and i was curious on what some people might think... here is the link!

http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/jace-control/


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I am looking for some low costing creatures to put in, to start out the game with, like 1 and 2 drops, maybe vortex elemental?


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Or.............................would boros be a good theme to use for a control deck?


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I have multiple decklists i could put up for all the ideas i hacve, but idk how much space it would take up, maybe i'll post them later so you can all see them, and comment.


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My worst fear at the moment would be- Ich haben nicht mehr geld fur mein hobbies und mein addiction fur energie drinken.



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Woops....that was in german...... it means that my worst fear would be to have no more money for my hobbies and addiction to energy drinks like Monster, and red bull.

I'd leave out couple of the counter spells and add 1-2 arheatype of imagination.

Hey guys, can I get some feedback on this (very) rough version of this deck?

I'm kinda getting tired of playing Politics in EDH, and just want to bash some skulls/be the bad guy.

Land Tax + Scroll Rack is an ancestral recall every turn.

Loads of mana rocks to counteract my own LD.

Mystic Barrier allows me to point Ruhan at one of the other guys on my sides, though not the guy across from me.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ruhan-hate-deck/

Alrighty folks! I think we may have a winner for my next standard! Also, i was thinking of maybe taking out the 2 last breaths for 2 jace architects of thought.... yes? no?

here's the link! please comment! ( i practically already have the deck built, except for a few things)-\

http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/the-fun-we-could-have/

You might cut back on one or two lands, and maybe try to get hold of the Azorius shocklands when you can.
I'm not sure about removing last breath for Jace, but planeswalkers are always good in control decks.

yeah, the main list had 26 lands, but i usually work with 20-24 so i'll probably do that, then add in a couple other things, like maybe a render silent or something. but yeah, i think the jace's would work quite well in here, since i'd like to knock my opponent around while i sway the game in my favor, especially with the silences, aetherlings, and render silents


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But.....i'm still not sure if the render silents will fit...unless i take out another card....hmmmmmmm.....

Alrighty..........when i get back to a computer, (which will be later), i am going to post some more ideas, ttyl everyone!


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Alright....i have bee looking into different deck types to help me decide on what type of standard to make next, and i found an aggro build, and modified it a bit, otherwise, i will post a few more. also, i do have another control list of a deck my friend sent me which i also [ut up on the vault also.
So, here are the links!-

Golgari/ BG aggro-
http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/bg-aggromodified/


azorius control idea from my friend-
http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/the-other-control-idea/

A few more to come soon!


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Sorry for posting so many decks.....just looking around for some advice on which deck type to go with for my next standard deck, way too many options to choose from, but ive narrowed it down to the control ideas, b/g aggro, or my rakdos control idea. but.... in other ideas, i was wondering if mutavaults might be better than the izzet guildgates i have in the deck, also, maybe i could swap in 2-4 aetherlings in for the 2 bidents of thassa, and/or the 2 ral zareks, or......just replace both the 2 bidents and ral's....... heres the link if you are wondering what the deck looks like----

http://www.mtgvault.com/tigerknight21/decks/izzet-standard/

too many questions with too few answers....... is what i have...

Only thing better than your guildgates would be steamvents. Don't take out Ral, find a way to keep Aetherling in there, and to do that you may need to take out the Bidents.

Edit:and I see you already have steamvents, so you might put in one or two mutavaults, but not the full four.
Also golgari looks to be your best bet for a third standard deck.

Yeah, i was thinking the same thing for ral, since he is a very good powerhouse for the deck to run with, and i was thinking of maybe taking 2 young pyromancers, or, all 4 of them out, or just both the bidents, and put in aetherlings for those....but i dont think running 4 aetherlings would be very nice......lol....but it would be a lot of fun....... and yeah, i was also thinking of the golgari deck also, since i would still get to use the desecration demons from the rakdos idea was going to go with, but then i get the benefit of green, along with the black etc.

Also...... i know this may be an odd name for a deck, but i was going to make a casual standard, (which might turn into a competitive tournament deck) which will be called the- 'boros balls buster'. It will have a mana curve of 4, so the deck will be played fairly fast, the main few cards will include, guttersnipe, boros charm, and magma jet, and spark trooper. The main idea is to play the instants and sorceries with guttersnipe in play to knock around the opponent, while you inflict the harm. also, with the spark troopers, play the trooper, and a boros charm giving the trooper double strike, so the trooper hits for 12, gaining you 12 life, and deals damage even if its block since it has trample. (the decklist is yet to be posted, silences will also be played in the deck, which will let me get my job done even faster by not giving my opponent the chance to cast anything)

mythicspoiler.com

New boros god looks insane.

 The Bringer wrote:
mythicspoiler.com

New boros god looks insane.

What else is new, red/white has been some developers favorite color since ravnica, why stop now?

He looks like more mythic garbage to me. Far from gamebreaking in my opinion. Red/White has been the redheaded stepchild of magic since Invasion. In the first block it had the crappiest ability of any guild. In the revamped block it's not much better.

He's good, but not great.

Ignoring damage doesn't help when most black removal is -x/-x in this set anyway.

What do you guys think the Blue One Drop Heroic is going to be?

Every other color has one, Red has two, all of various rarities.

My money is on Scry 1.