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Well, now I really wish I bought into a couple of those modern masters drafts now that this discussion prompted me to look at all that was released for that set. Even things that aren't Tarmogoyf, Dark Confidant, or Cryptic Command have some sort of other interest to me. I mean I don't know if people use Tooth and Nail in Modern, but I could sure use if for my Jund big creature EDH deck.

On that note, some of the "bulk" rares are kinda odd choices to be thrown in. Do people actually use Death Cloud, Dragonstorm, Earwig Squad, or Greater Gargadon in Modern?

They're usually engines for odd decks, or banning a have changed the decks they went in. Dragonstorm would shoot out 4 Hellkites to dome a player for 20. Some of them warped the meta for the time they were in standard as well- they're all just powerful cards or enablers.

First ever prerelease, chose Sultai, pulled surrak, clever impersonator and a foil ringmate rok. Needless to say I was happy, went 1-4 (yeah, I aint good).

Now here's the cool story and the icing on the cake, the judge over seeing the event took kindly to me and we regularly talked during the intervals, he see I had a decent understanding was really loving the whole experience, at the end he went to me and my friend, handed us a fistful of cards, I said "oh are these what you got last prerelease?" (As I asked him if he got anything good earlier) he said "no, their yours now" I just went like WTF and he explained he has over 40k cards and these were just some nice commons he collected from KtK. I was really happy, thinking this is one of the nicest things I've had a near stranger do for me, the he came back with more, then again, by now random guys who opened their prerelease boxes and handed me cards, by now I got a foot heigh stack of cards, a playset of each common and 1 or 2 of each uncommon.

On the way out the shop keeper asked of we had a good time, I lifted the bag and he smiled, went under the counter, lifted up 1 booster box of RtR filled with random cards, one of Gatecrash filled with cards and two of Nyx same as the others. Pushed 'em in our direction and said to keen them.

So yeah, got 5/kilos of cards and a great fething time, met remarkable people who tweaked my decks to their best and a €25 card. No Sidisi though, that's next on my list, then world domination, and based on my luck, say hello to grand emperor dark apostle!

Yeah, veteran players are usually cool with giving newbies commons, uncommons, and even bulk rares that don't have a lot of value. It benefits them as well because they can get rid of stuff they don't need but can't trade and is just taking up room.

Well...... some veteran players, but yeah, i have met those, but then there are the veteran players that are/can be total jerks, just saying, in my area there is a huge mix of them, it gets really old with some though, since some are cool guys, then there will be the guys that just dis everyone for no reason at all, and think they are top dog at everything magic just because they have a deck they foiled out, etc, its really pathetic sometimes

It's still cool to see it sometimes. This one guy brought his son in and another guy who's friends with the dad bought three booster packs of Dragon's Maze as the entry into the standard event that night. He goes up to the kid and says, "Hey, bud. You promise you'll be good for your dad? Then I'll give you the commons and uncommons." He does so, then he looks at the rares. Remember that this is Dragon's Maze we're talking about. "Hey, kid. Here's the rares too."

What were the rares?

Just pulled a normal and a foil Polluted Delta from my box, doesn't even matter what else I got (And I did get some GOOD stuff.)

 orkkiller21 wrote:
What were the rares?

Varolz for sure. I don't remember the other two, so I'll just say Render Silent and Ruric Thar.

I'm VERY new to MTG and am looking for critique of my first deck. I've chosen R/W heroic because all that combo-wombo stuff seems cool to me. Anyway, here's my proposed list (sorry, but it's really out of order when it comes to mana costs.)

10x Plains
8x Mountains
2x Nomad Outpost

4x Akroan Crusader
4x Fabled Hero
4x Phalanx Leader
2x Cavalry Pegasus
4x Abzan Falconer


4x Gods Willing
4x Coordinated Assault
2x Martial Glory
2x Boros Charm
4x Dauntless Onslaught
2x Chained to the Rocks
1x Spear of Heliod
3x Gift of Orzhova

Sideboard:
4x Favored Hoplite
4x Akroan Hoplite
2x Lightning Strike
3x Wingsteed Rider/Nyxborn Rollicker
2x Abzan Battle Priest/2x Ainok Bond Kin

Mostly everything is from the Theros block, with a few things from Khans and Gift of Orzhova from Gatecrash.

The last 2 choices on the sideboard have slashes because I can't choose which ones, but I'm leaning toward the Ainok on the bottom.

Also, I'm utterly uninterested in playing standard because it seems really silly to me that you wait a year and your cards are useless, not sure what to think about the other formats, but I think I just want to do casual-style playing, where all the cards are legal except the stupid OP ones.

Modern is your format of choice

All you have to do to make that deck standard legal is replace Gift of Orzhova.

I'd add a couple more lands- 20 seems a little light.

In Modern everything after 8th Edition and Mirrodin block remains legal- other than the banlist. The hardest thing about getting in to Modern is the mana base. Luckily Kahns is bringing new fetchlands(or new for Modern anyway), and the recent reprinting of the shocklands means it's a pretty good time to get in. Cost-wise anyway.

I have a stack of commons and uncommons about two feet high in my flat that need getting rid of, must be 2000 cards. If someone wanted them in London they're free..

So the new set has an actually decent budget alternative for burn decks.

I think it'll make a splash in standard. Seems fairly decent for a one-drop. In Modern it's hard to tell. Could make another win condition for storm, or maybe squeeze in as copies 5-8 of Goblin Guide.

Grixis "Sac and Attack"

Land;

1 polluted delta (€25 e)
1 bloodstained mire (€15 e)
1 temple of deceit (€3.50 e)
1 temple of epiphany (yes)
1 temple of malice (€5 e)
1 steamvents (€10 e)
1 watery grave (€10 e)
1 blood crypt (€8 e)
1 dragonskull summit (€2 e)
1 drowned catacomb (€2.30 e)
1 sulfur falls (€7.40 e)
4 crumbling necropolis (€1 e)
2 island (yes)
2 mountain (yes)
3 swamp (yes)
(22)

Planeswalker;

2 Nicol bolas, planeswalker (€3.50 e)
1 ashiok, nightmare weaver (€11 e)
(3)

Creatures;

4 thraximundar (€1)
3 dominos of fealty (€2)
2 endrek sahr, master breeder (20c e)
2 puppet conjurer (10c e)
1 ryusei, falling star (€1 e)
1 kokusho, evening star (€9 e)
2 keiga, tide star (€3 e)
2 cemetery reaper (€1.50 e)
2 young pyromancer (€1.75 e)
(19)

Artifacts;

2 unscythe, killer of kings (€1 e)
(2)

Instants;

3 blustersquall (15c e)
2 mizzium skin (15c e)
(5)

Sorceries;

2 cruel ultimatum (40c e)
3 slave of bolas (25c e)
3 dragon fodder (45c e)
1 call of the nightwing (15c e)
(9)

Total/ (60)

Thoughts? (Modern deck)

Wilytank wrote:So the new set has an actually decent budget alternative for burn decks.

Sinful Hero wrote:I think it'll make a splash in standard. Seems fairly decent for a one-drop. In Modern it's hard to tell. Could make another win condition for storm, or maybe squeeze in as copies 5-8 of Goblin Guide.

Actually, it's already been in the WINNING Legacy Open deck for last week. It's pretty good.




I finally found my Modern Madness deck's all-star player; Molten-Tail Masticore. Dude does everything a Madness deck needs it to.

But Legacy is not Modern. They're similar, but a whole lot less control is present in Modern.

More control in Legacy? I know Force of Will is a thing, but while playtesting stuff online my biggest enemy is me fizzling in the middle of a turn 1 combo.

There aren't really a whole lot of Control decks in Modern is what I was saying. Most are aggro/combo/tempo decks. Even RWU Control plays more like a burn deck.

Threw together this BUG commander deck today centered around +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/redistribution-of-filth/

Finally did a Khans draft and I think I've gotten a blast of inspiration to go start a Sultai control deck for standard. It all started when I opened my first pack and pulled out my only rare pick, Hooded Hydra (who performed well by the way), so I felt like I should go green. The pack passed to me yielded a Despise and thought "Thoughtseize substitutes are generally pretty good. Maybe I'll do G/B." At some point, I decided to start picking out blue and chose to go full on Sultai with all three colors being relatively balanced. Got discarding stuff like Rakshasa's Secret and Mardu Skullhunter; card advantage like Scout the Borders, Sultai Soothsayer, and Bitter Revelation; Delve goodies like that Vulture, the Mandrills, and Dead Drop (a game saver); and the counter spells...my god the counter spells.

A Disdainful Stroke, a Stubborn Denial, and three Cancels. THREE fething CANCELS!!

1-2 game 1, 2-0 game 2, and 1-1-1 the final two games. Apparently, there's a lot of ties going on at the Khans draft at the store. I don't know if it's because we're all great (or terrible) at draft or that this set is just well rounded for limited. But I've had my taste of Delver blood. I starting to want more.

Week 2 and again got three Cancels, a Disdainful Stroke and a Stubborn Denial. If I splashed red, I'd have run a Mindswipe and a Trap Essence as well but I wanted to run Sultai again and those were the only two worthwhile red spells I pulled. Went 1-1-2 this week though. Mardu can go straight to hell.

Doing some differnt things in Magic recently. Wednesday was an original Tavnica draft, £23 buy in but I pulled a Dark Confidant in the first pack, played Rakdos overall making use of the 'hellbent' ability. Tonight I'm doing a Khans 2HG with the girlfriend. During half term there's an original Mirroden draft. Fun times.

 Wilytank wrote:
Mardu can go straight to hell.

Well, here's some irony for me. I drafted tonight, opened a Crackling Doom pack 1 and a Butcher of the Horde pack 2 so I drafted Mardu. 3 rounder that went 1-1-1 for me, but I did place this time.

Alright, I'm mostly just complaining here, but why is it the only two stores in a practical driving distance from me do drafts and standard on the same day? Wouldn't it be better to stagger it so they're not leaching customers from each other?

It happens, back home, (I'm away at college, but I am referring to my home area where I am from), there are 4 or maybe even a couple more stores that do the same thing, otherwise, there is really only 1 store near my college that does MTG events, but the majority of the players are hardcore competitive, and a few are very obnoxious, but yeah, there are a lot of stores in my home area that all have alright events, but its hard to decide on which to attend.

My home store does both at the same time and there's rarely any complaints or problems. The draft crowd gets to have fun and so does the standard group. Both groups get catered to and there's room to accommodate everyone so why not? If there's not enough for one then it's whatever and they're offered a spot in the other before it fires.

My main complaint is both stores do standard Friday, draft Saturday, and neither has the crowd to do both on one night. I only get Fridays free usually, so I'm just SOL for drafting lately.