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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 10:09:36
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Rohnert Park
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My biggest "...really?" unit was actually a pair of Whirlwinds back when I played Marines. I never saw anyone else bring even one and I brought two along with a Thunderfire Cannon for probably the least likely use of all 3 C:SM Heavy Support slots.
For armies I do play my Eldar unit is probably Howling Banshees considering they are absolutely terrible now; a fragile weapon with positively no delivery system in 6th edition. My Tau favorite obscure unit is a mass of Piranhas. My Tau are Ghost in the Shell themed so I actually use Tachikoma models that I convert into a completely playable stand-in for Piranhas and I can't leave home without them because of it. They are still terrible in the new codex but a HEFTY points discount makes them be less of a detriment to the army and more of a poor (but serviceable) use of points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 10:37:06
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Livingston, United Kingdom
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Melissia wrote:This is about uncompetitive units, not just your favorite unit.
Funny, because he specified an uncompetitive unit. Assault Marines suck, sadly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 10:40:05
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Rohnert Park
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The I10 hits in 6th help a little bit but yes, Assault Marines are still pretty rubbish and have been for a long while. I used to run 30 of them in C: SM in 5th edition and suffered many games losing one of the best looking and worst written units in the book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 11:07:33
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Seeker and Exalted Seeker chariots.
Why? Chariots are cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 11:37:32
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Executing Exarch
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10 Wraithguard with a spiritseer. 396 pts min and can usually be completely ignored as they've got a 12" range. If you're in my 12" range, then you can just charge and tie them up for the rest of the game. The only reason they see use at all in my army is that most people get fixated on trying to kill them.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/04/09 11:38:23
Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 14:17:56
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
Ohio
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Chaos chosen, not melele beat sticks like bezerkers and not shooty like thousand sons, give em all lightning claws and mark of khorne 25 ap 3 attacks on the charge.
4 guys wiped out a tac squad in one assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 16:04:39
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Morphing Obliterator
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MajorStoffer wrote:...
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum.
this is so going in my sig...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 16:45:51
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Zealous Knight
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SonicPara wrote:My biggest "...really?" unit was actually a pair of Whirlwinds back when I played Marines. I never saw anyone else bring even one and I brought two along with a Thunderfire Cannon for probably the least likely use of all 3 C: SM Heavy Support slots.
Really thou, I **LOVED** bringing three of those @ 1500 or so every once in a while... The amount of CDs to throw isn't that impressive, but the WTF factor on my opponents' part usually gave enough of a tactical advantage to make them totally worth it.
I do really love playing a cheeselist as standard and just when regulars get used to it, do something completely WTF though. Keeps the game fresh and the looks on their faces alone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/10 03:34:59
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Rohnert Park
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Bolognesus wrote:Really thou, I **LOVED** bringing three of those @ 1500 or so every once in a while... The amount of CDs to throw isn't that impressive, but the WTF factor on my opponents' part usually gave enough of a tactical advantage to make them totally worth it.
I do really love playing a cheeselist as standard and just when regulars get used to it, do something completely WTF though. Keeps the game fresh and the looks on their faces alone... 
Can't agree enough. Having only 270 tied up in Heavy Support and being ranged template, battlefield control choices gave me considerable power over my opponent in the positioning game but they were still under-appreciated, generally under-performing in terms of kills, obscure units
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/10 05:29:07
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Carnifexes.
In general I use everything I like, or fits my theme or battle plan no matter overpriced or not.
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From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 11:51:58
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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Vanguard vets w storm shields and fists. Everyone on here warned me theyd be a big waste of points but i put them w a librarian and let them whizz about with goi for a turn punching things, makes me smile
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 15:53:39
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Morphing Obliterator
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pax_imperialis wrote:Vanguard vets w storm shields and fists. Everyone on here warned me theyd be a big waste of points but i put them w a librarian and let them whizz about with goi for a turn punching things, makes me smile
that's a really interesting thought. the heroic intervention rule just says "arrive by deep strike", so vanguard could charge every turn they deep strike via GoI, right? oh, but how would that work with the attached librarian since he doesn't have the heroic intervention rule?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 16:27:25
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
Los Gatos, CA
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IG Veterans with shotguns.
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BAO 2015 : Best Space Wolves.
The best battle plans are the simplest. Just run forward and punch your enemy in the face. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 16:32:51
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
north of nowhere
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They couldn't do it with the libbly. Cant with any attached IC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 17:37:08
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I think you missed the title: "non-competitive", not situational.
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Star Trek taught me so much. Like, how you should accept people, whether they be black, white, Klingon or even female...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 18:06:14
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Phiasco II wrote:Dreadknight. Really not worth its points, but I love the look of it (by the way, I ripped of the GK sitting on front of the dreadknight and replaced it with a dreadnought front plate. I think it looks pretty cool)
Dreadknights are actually good though.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 18:22:57
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Deffdreads: the models are too cool and if they actually get into combat they rip vehicles to shreds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 03:32:46
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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varl wrote:pax_imperialis wrote:Vanguard vets w storm shields and fists. Everyone on here warned me theyd be a big waste of points but i put them w a librarian and let them whizz about with goi for a turn punching things, makes me smile
that's a really interesting thought. the heroic intervention rule just says "arrive by deep strike", so vanguard could charge every turn they deep strike via GoI, right? oh, but how would that work with the attached librarian since he doesn't have the heroic intervention rule?
Yeah youre right and it makes it a lot less competitive  it was mainly cos i hate all the kit for them bar jump packs, thinkin bout putting them in a raider. Which btw i want to trial a version of with typhoon launchers and exterminator autocannons. Thoughts? Off topic but im getting slammed for "marines hate autocannons take assault cannons instead rawr". Would it be competitive?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 04:53:26
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Dakka Veteran
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varl wrote:pax_imperialis wrote:Vanguard vets w storm shields and fists. Everyone on here warned me theyd be a big waste of points but i put them w a librarian and let them whizz about with goi for a turn punching things, makes me smile
that's a really interesting thought. the heroic intervention rule just says "arrive by deep strike", so vanguard could charge every turn they deep strike via GoI, right? oh, but how would that work with the attached librarian since he doesn't have the heroic intervention rule?
It actually could work because an IC can leave a squad at any time. So, the libby could deep strike the vets, leave the squad for their assault, then rejoin them to deep strike them again!
Edit: Scratch that. It seems that the unit couldn't even declare to do a heroic intervention with the IC attached.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 05:01:26
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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Haha was a nice thought cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 05:16:04
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Death Korps Grenadiers, but now that I got a Valkyrie to use them with, they might be better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 05:32:13
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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In my Imperial Guard/Jagdmacht Army: Leman Russ Tanks. With vehicles being made of paper mache in the current edition, they're usually hard to justify, but I'm a tread-head so in they go.
In my Dark Angels Army (mostly Deathwing): two Nephilim Jet Fighters. Usually their placement on the table is met with "Really!?" or "Oh my god, why would you run those, they're so bad" from my opponent/bystanders/the God Emperor himself. Unfortunately, I'm the noob that bought two of the damned things at launch because I really like the model, and so saddled with them I am. I'd say that they're not so bad, but lying is a sin, so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 05:42:51
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
West Chester, PA
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Definitely shotgun scouts!
Until they fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 06:14:08
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
New Zealand
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I play Chaos Marines, field Chosen often, and don't own a single Heldrake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 06:16:37
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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Seconding the Shotgun scouts! To add to this however, Honor Guard. I mean really, the Command Squad has better stats, it's almost encouraging you to run a Captain instead of a Chapter Master.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 06:58:08
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Sneaky Kommando
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Scratch built Boss Snikrot, theirs nothing like Surprize!! I'm coming on any board edge of my choice only to go WARRGhhh... NOT! "sorry I cant AssAULT U"..WTF?
Yip this super cool killer who slips through the jungle like a ghost, who leaves His victims to bleed to death, their eyes put out and their scalps ripped free from their skulls"
can't assault when enters board!!!!..
And my 9 flash gits with mad doc.
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14,000pts ish
/ 2500pts ish
4500pts ish
/marine 8500pts ish
ON A 2+ I GET TO HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH THE RULEBOOK
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 07:04:56
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Deathleaper and the Parasite of Mortex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 08:49:28
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
Tennessee
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G. Whitenbeard wrote:Monoliths
Definitely outstripped by other HS options in the Necron codex, but dammit, I love deepstriking av14 6" x 6" ordnance packing buildings onto the table.
This. There are much more effective uses of 200 points, but fun factor of a slow moving, pie plate dropping piece of terrain can't be denied. Actually getting close enough to suck an unsuspecting unit through the portal is priceless as well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 08:57:26
Subject: Re:Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
Simi Valley, CA
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Blood Claws on foot without a transport.
So many hard counters, but fun enough to keep me using them anyway!
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40k
Ragnar Blackmane's Great Company - 7,000 points | The Red Foxes - 1,000 points
Fantasy
The Brave Men of Talabheim - 8,000 points | Lizardmen - 7,000 points | Skaven - 4,000 points | O &G - 1,500 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 09:24:10
Subject: Non- competitive units that you use anyway
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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MarsNZ wrote:I play Chaos Marines, field Chosen often, and don't own a single Heldrake.
Though I believe you are considering getting one of the flying lizards...
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