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A cannoness with an inferno pistol, on minimum sisters squad, and a repentia team.

That's an allies list I've deployed. In 6th.

Sometimes, since i actually can, and it suprises people, i run 3 squads of assault marines in my C:SM army. yes i know they aren't very good, and your (paladins/meganobz/wraiths/insert powerful unit) are superior, but when you get a 30 marine assault on them (or better yet on an ork mob) led by chaplains, i dont care how high your initiative is, or how good your save is, or whatever, you WILL die under a hail of blows, and Brother steve with his incredibly points inefficient thunderhammer and storm shield will totally clobber your (Captain/warboss/insert character) because, well he can.
If they lose, well, we just knew that was going to happen, because assault marines are rubbish, right? but if they win? well, sorry you suck because assault marines suck and you got beaten by them, did i mention they suck?

Arais wrote:
Banshees.

Top that.

Won my league with mobile infantry Eldar with my Banshees being the MVP unit. Not saying they are good, they are terrible, just underestimated now; they still dumpster standard infantry.

What else you got?

I always heard a lot of people talk smack about stealthsuits. The new ones are almost exactly the same. Regardless I Always bring some!

I love when sternguard land anywhere near Banshees. People are so used to them being horrible these days that they forget - if you deliver power armored troops to them, they will do the job!

I do love my screamer-killer groups, as well as fielding deathleaper quite a bit. I have tried using warriors quite a few times, but vindi's are super common in my meta, so my 300-500pt squad vaporizes instantly. Oh, and I seem to be bringing mawlocs more and more. Still wont see me touching harpies or pyrovores with 50 foot poles. I almost fielded OOE a few weeks ago, but ended up being sensible and fielded a trygon instead


I guess for my CSM would be that I always take the MoK on all of my units as well as purchasing the extra CCW all the time, even if they gain little or nothing from it. Also, I love my CC fit defiler, costing 5 points less than a chaos raider, but hits like a brick in combat. Right now I'm trying to figure out a way to bring warp talons into my game. So far it consists of taking.. I think around 400 points of daemon allies so I can use my LC murder murderers of murderous murdering. The list is whorrible, and I'm looking forward to using it

see, now that's the kind of guy that would be a blast to play against. bring the army you want and leave the stats and netlists at home. play the best you can play with what you brought and see what the dice gods have in store for you. I like it!

 varl wrote:
see, now that's the kind of guy that would be a blast to play against. bring the army you want and leave the stats and netlists at home. play the best you can play with what you brought and see what the dice gods have in store for you. I like it!

This the way we should all play ad I do.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 varl wrote:
see, now that's the kind of guy that would be a blast to play against. bring the army you want and leave the stats and netlists at home. play the best you can play with what you brought and see what the dice gods have in store for you. I like it!

This the way we should all play ad I do.

I second the motion

 Anpu42 wrote:

 varl wrote:
see, now that's the kind of guy that would be a blast to play against. bring the army you want and leave the stats and netlists at home. play the best you can play with what you brought and see what the dice gods have in store for you. I like it!

This the way we should all play ad I do.

+1. I use things I think look cool or that I like. Hell, I use LotD because they look badass and sometimes do get the job done

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:
The Blood Angels codex.

This would be funny if it weren't so true now

Well that's me out of another army I wanted to start for a tournament.

Someone else said dark reapers and I second this.

I think they are widely considered to be overcosted and uncompetitive, yet have seen action in 3 out of the 4 6th ed games I have played.

In one game vs BA they did terrible (killing a few marines from a tactical squad who drop podded in front of them and they dying to the remnants) but in the other 2 games they have killed quite a few marines while surviving the battle.

I also fairly regularly take a squad of guardian defenders in my army . They may be an expensive meatshield for the heavy weapon, but they can be useful for objective grabbing and using the warlock as a babysitter for a nearby wraithlord.

Would warp spiders count as uncompetitive? Personally I would say no, but then again I have 14 of them.....

Pyrovores.

Because any pansy ass can use a flamethrower. This badass is the flamethrower.

and is grossly overpriced.
and uses up an elite slot.

Land Speeder Vengeance, RW Dark Talon. They need a lot of synergy in order to function effectively in any army list. So there usefulness is fragile. Plus they are both A LOT of points for their synergistic nature.

I converted a squad of ratling snippers out of DKOK guys. They look awesome and I love to play with them even if the 75 points are better used somewhere else.

5 chosen all with lightning claws and MoK, 25 ap3 attacks on the charge. these guys beat out bezerkers when it comes to how much crap they can give people. They are so worth it, but god awful expensive. i love them!

 wolfmerc wrote:
5 chosen all with lightning claws and MoK, 25 ap3 attacks on the charge. these guys beat out bezerkers when it comes to how much crap they can give people. They are so worth it, but god awful expensive. i love them!

what's your delivery method?

Nurglings. Losing EW was a huge blow to their effectiveness at tar pitting but they gained infiltrate and I think the newer models are top-notch!

Also, Epidemius. He is the former centerpiece of my Nurgle Daemons.

-NM

I still take Pink Horrors. If I play Eldar, then I just lose a Horror from each squad every turn...but when they pass the Psychic test, they don't get denied, and the enemy is in range, (AND I don't roll 4 shots, which I seem to do a lot), then it's great! 10 TL Str 6 AP4 will shred anything!

Scout bikers. So useless, so fun though.

 varl wrote:

 wolfmerc wrote:
5 chosen all with lightning claws and MoK, 25 ap3 attacks on the charge. these guys beat out bezerkers when it comes to how much crap they can give people. They are so worth it, but god awful expensive. i love them!

what's your delivery method?

Landraider. With Possession.

My favorite non-competitive unit I own is my ten man Vanguard squad. All jump packs, two PW/SS vets, two PW/PP vets, one Power Fist, one TH, two twin Lightning Claw vets, and a vet with a PW. One game I sent them after a Daemon Prince with a Jump Chaplain and a Jump libby (after Heroic Intervention obviously). The Daemon prince did not know what had hit him

Captain Al' Rahem and a 20 man blob on foot, with missiles. The blob is really too small to do anything and they move all the time, wasting the missiles. It's a funky model restriction that I just haven't gottne around to fixing yet. He himself is a 70 point character, but when you instant kill things with his scary desert sword, it really catches people off guard. I killed a company commander in a challenge because I outflanked next to him, on his turn he ignored the five man PCS with no weapons, and he failed a single invul when I charged him.

Talonair wrote:
My favorite non-competitive unit I own is my ten man Vanguard squad. All jump packs, two PW/SS vets, two PW/PP vets, one Power Fist, one TH, two twin Lightning Claw vets, and a vet with a PW. One game I sent them after a Daemon Prince with a Jump Chaplain and a Jump libby (after Heroic Intervention obviously). The Daemon prince did not know what had hit him

dear gods... how many points is that? cinematically, it sounds like a bad-ass squad (would be fun to paint), but sooo many points...

 varl wrote:

Talonair wrote:
My favorite non-competitive unit I own is my ten man Vanguard squad. All jump packs, two PW/SS vets, two PW/PP vets, one Power Fist, one TH, two twin Lightning Claw vets, and a vet with a PW. One game I sent them after a Daemon Prince with a Jump Chaplain and a Jump libby (after Heroic Intervention obviously). The Daemon prince did not know what had hit him

dear gods... how many points is that? cinematically, it sounds like a bad-ass squad (would be fun to paint), but sooo many points...

595pts for the Vanguard squad (with all taking Melta bombs). Hideously expensive I know, but fun as hell to play. Recently I have been toying with the idea of dropping the jump packs, and sticking them in a Drop Pod, then having a Land Raider come pick them up, or sticking them in a Storm Raven at the start. Would still be very hefty points wise, however it would free up to 100pts (150pts if I drop the melta bombs)

I have quite a few kustom ork unit me and a friend ruled up and play with. Just Orkish flavours to our waaaghs. Eg a Orkish defiler type unit. 'Nuff said.

Thousand Sons. Pretty much every competetive player on this forum thinks they are the most god-awful troop unit in the CSM dex (and by extension, the Tzeentch marked Sorc to make them troops), but I love the models, I love the fluff & I personally do rather well w/ them. I don't fill out my FOC w/ them however, but two (sometimes three) squads & a Tzeentch sorc are what I start all my CSM lists with.

~Vryce

PYROVORES!!!!

Seriously. I use them. I destroy stuff with them. It is fun. Drops 'em in a spore next to some infantry and roast some bastards.

As I said at he beginning I love my LotD. I had one game where they fought a (old codex) Daemonette squad for several rounds. I almost immediately lost everyone but the sergeant who then made 13 saves over the course of 3 to 4 rounds finally dying to a rhino bolter after having killed all of the daemonettes.

I'm also a fan of ratlings. No one seems fond of them now but I can't seem to shake the impression that 10 points for a walking sniper rifle isn't bad. Also it's really funny when you kill a daemon prince with a bunch of hobbits dressed like duck hunters.

I agree with storm guardians, although I run them a tad different. I like to run 11 of them, two flamers and a warlock kitted with a singing spear and enhance. It makes them a relatively okay unit to clean up the remenants of my shootey-er eldar. Only thing that kind of stinks is no assualt when the disembark :/