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 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Looks like Boston PD just denied again that there is anybody in custody, but also gave the stock answer of "we have police everywhere talking to a lot of people...".

Right... they may have the right people, but don't have enough to make an arrest. So the PD needs to either deny or state they have "person of interests".

They're doing their job... we all need to step back and let them.


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 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
According to NBC Sportscast, athletes went from finishing straight to the hospital to donate blood

As far as I'm concerned... those runners are fething heros.

Pretty much anyone who donates blood or orther blood product is a fething hero in my book.

However not to trivialize their charity but the blood they donate today won't be used for transfussions for the victems as it takes awhile to process the blood.

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Looks like Boston PD just denied again that there is anybody in custody, but also gave the stock answer of "we have police everywhere talking to a lot of people...".

Right... they may have the right people, but don't have enough to make an arrest. So the PD needs to either deny or state they have "person of interests".

They're doing their job... we all need to step back and let them.


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 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
According to NBC Sportscast, athletes went from finishing straight to the hospital to donate blood

As far as I'm concerned... those runners are fething heros.

Pretty much anyone who donates blood or orther blood product is a fething hero in my book.

However not to trivialize their charity but the blood they donate today won't be used for transfussions for the victems as it takes awhile to process the blood.

They're there for those who needs it a couple of months from now... this event will take a bite of the stash now.

I'm gonna make this super clear, and I hope this is easier to swallow coming from a non-American.

The next person making any type of allusion that this tragedy was even slightly 'called for' is gonna catch a vacation from Dakka. Even a little.

Flame-baiting on the back of a tragedy involving civilians from ALL OVER THE WORLD at an international event is scummy and low, I don't care how justified you think you are.

You can discuss potential motivators that would get some psycho or group of psychos to do this, but show some respect and sensitivity and DO NOT pull any 'they deserved it' crap here.

I will not be repeating this. Do yourselves a favor and don't push it.

MGS- Glad you and Mrs. S are well! Daniela's mom is visiting and they nearly went down to this today. It's scary stuff.

 Albatross wrote:
If its not too soon, I'd like to take this opportunity to express my hope that the large Irish-American population of Boston revisit their support (if held) for the IRA in light of this incident. This is what terrorism is, this is the sort of thing donations to groups like the IRA and INLA enable in places like Omagh, Brighton and Birmingham - it isn't romantic or heroic freedom-fighting, it's hateful, cowardly and murderous, as was this act.

I think you'll find that the last lingering US support for the IRA and actions similar to this pretty much dried up back in 2001.

 Albatross wrote:
My thoughts go out to the victims and their families. Do we have any dakkanauts in Boston, incidentally?

At least a few in Boston and several in the greater Boston area.

Just something I thought might raise people's spirits a bit:

The Red Cross in Eastern Massachusetts tweets: "Due to the generosity of our donors we don't need blood at this time. Please schedule for a future donation."

Glad to see, even in the midst of this crisis, people are pitching in and doing their bit. It really helps.

Law enforcement have just confirmed that an unspecified person is being held/questioned in relation to today's events.

**edit**
Saudi national who was chased and apprehended by a member of the public before being handed over to the police is said to be the detained person. Seems he was carrying two backpacks before the explosions.

 Mannahnin wrote:
MGS- Glad you and Mrs. S are well! Daniela's mom is visiting and they nearly went down to this today. It's scary stuff.

Really glad Daniela and her mum didn't go. Send our best and give them a hug.

We went down to Battleship Cove, it was an amazing day, very interesting. It was fairly busy being Patriot's Day and this has made me double think how much of a target that floating museum to military might would have been to certain groups, domestic and abroad.

We were right there, just a couple of streets over, heading home, minutes before the bombs went off, we contemplated stopping off to watch the folks coming back.

Oh yeah, and I just kicked some people from back in PA off my facebook for suggesting Obama was behind it. My patience is oddly non-existent at this time. I think it's seeing the people being carried away with limbs missing from a street I walked down 3 days ago.


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 Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
Just something I thought might raise people's spirits a bit:

The Red Cross in Eastern Massachusetts tweets: "Due to the generosity of our donors we don't need blood at this time. Please schedule for a future donation."

Glad to see, even in the midst of this crisis, people are pitching in and doing their bit. It really helps.

We asked and were told to contribute later in the week, as the city's various hospitals were well stocked for this but that this will leave them short afterwards.

 Mannahnin wrote:
MGS- Glad you and Mrs. S are well! Daniela's mom is visiting and they nearly went down to this today. It's scary stuff.

 Albatross wrote:
If its not too soon, I'd like to take this opportunity to express my hope that the large Irish-American population of Boston revisit their support (if held) for the IRA in light of this incident. This is what terrorism is, this is the sort of thing donations to groups like the IRA and INLA enable in places like Omagh, Brighton and Birmingham - it isn't romantic or heroic freedom-fighting, it's hateful, cowardly and murderous, as was this act.

I think you'll find that the last lingering US support for the IRA and actions similar to this pretty much dried up back in 2001.
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Concur on all points, they stopped passing the cup in my mom's old Irish neighborhood back in the 1980s even, also glad to hear the Stompas and everyone with people in the area's people are okay.

Here's what I've come up with raking all the data streams:

Looks like we have 80+ injuries, still 2 dead, contrary to NBC reports Boston Police Commissioner reports no suspects or any one in custody at this time. Two more IEDs UXO* around Boston as well as a possible third blast at the JFK library around 1500 local time. The third incident is unconfirmed as it might just be a fire.

We should be thanking out lucky stars right about now, it's a miracle casualties weren't higher and two of those IEDs failed to detonate. Going to be... interesting, to see what caused this one.

*Improvised Explosive Devices, Unexploded Ordnance


I'd also like to take a final note to exalt MajorTom. That type of behavior's disgusting wherever you are.

Edit: http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Two-Explosions-At-Boston-Marathon-Finish-Line-203068841.html#.UWyClcpu_j8

Confirmed, no suspect in custody per Boston Police Commissioner, and JFK library fire is apparently unrelated.

Casualty estimate stands at 73.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
MGS- Glad you and Mrs. S are well! Daniela's mom is visiting and they nearly went down to this today. It's scary stuff.

Really glad Daniela and her mum didn't go. Send our best and give them a hug.

We went down to Battleship Cove, it was an amazing day, very interesting. It was fairly busy being Patriot's Day and this has made me double think how much of a target that floating museum to military might would have been to certain groups, domestic and abroad.

We were right there, just a couple of streets over, heading home, minutes before the bombs went off, we contemplated stopping off to watch the folks coming back.

Oh yeah, and I just kicked some people from back in PA off my facebook for suggesting Obama was behind it. My patience is oddly non-existent at this time. I think it's seeing the people being carried away with limbs missing from a street I walked down 3 days ago.

The fact that people even suggest that already is disgusting, and I'm glad you removed them. I never have patience for people like that and I am glad you are the same fella.

I'm gonna make this super clear, and I hope this is easier to swallow coming from a non-American.

The next person making any type of allusion that this tragedy was even slightly 'called for' is gonna catch a vacation from Dakka. Even a little.

Flame-baiting on the back of a tragedy involving civilians from ALL OVER THE WORLD at an international event is scummy and low, I don't care how justified you think you are.

You can discuss potential motivators that would get some psycho or group of psychos to do this, but show some respect and sensitivity and DO NOT pull any 'they deserved it' crap here.

I will not be repeating this. Do yourselves a favor and don't push it.

Good man, Major Tom. Good man.

On other things, while many people are likely going to make the knee-jerk reaction and gasp "Ohmigod, Al Qieda is back after all these years!", I'm willing to bet it was standard domestic terrorism. Now, if it comes out as being different, I will swallow my claim, but essentially 90% of terrorist acts in America during the 20th century were perpetrated by other Americans, as much as that sickens me.

There's nothing an innocent person can possibly do to warrant this kind of attack, other than to show that some bat-gak crazy idiot wants to show how evil they are.

I know people have already dies from this attack, but I'll certainly cross my fingers for the ones that can still pull through.

Map I saw showed a medical tent nearby for the marathon, so thankfully there was already a good grip of medical personnel nearby to offer immediate first aid. Had it not been that, the death toll could have been as high as 40, with all of the amputations I'd wager.

This could have been so much worse. Thankfully the other devices didn't go off.

I'm looking forward to finding out more about the perpetrators. They are so going to regret this.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:

I'm gonna make this super clear, and I hope this is easier to swallow coming from a non-American.

The next person making any type of allusion that this tragedy was even slightly 'called for' is gonna catch a vacation from Dakka. Even a little.

Flame-baiting on the back of a tragedy involving civilians from ALL OVER THE WORLD at an international event is scummy and low, I don't care how justified you think you are.

You can discuss potential motivators that would get some psycho or group of psychos to do this, but show some respect and sensitivity and DO NOT pull any 'they deserved it' crap here.

I will not be repeating this. Do yourselves a favor and don't push it.

Good man, Major Tom. Good man.

On other things, while many people are likely going to make the knee-jerk reaction and gasp "Ohmigod, Al Qieda is back after all these years!", I'm willing to bet it was standard domestic terrorism. Now, if it comes out as being different, I will swallow my claim, but essentially 90% of terrorist acts in America during the 20th century were perpetrated by other Americans, as much as that sickens me.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. We don't know anything yet.

The only thing that sickens me more than the act itself is the way some people are reacting to it. People I know have seen the event, essential shrugged, and moved on with their day. I know people deal with things like this certain ways but that's just... its terrible. We have too many tragedies happening. People are, for lack of a better word, becoming used to this. Its not right.

"When did we stop counting the bodies of the dead?"

 AegisGrimm wrote:

I'm gonna make this super clear, and I hope this is easier to swallow coming from a non-American.

The next person making any type of allusion that this tragedy was even slightly 'called for' is gonna catch a vacation from Dakka. Even a little.

Flame-baiting on the back of a tragedy involving civilians from ALL OVER THE WORLD at an international event is scummy and low, I don't care how justified you think you are.

You can discuss potential motivators that would get some psycho or group of psychos to do this, but show some respect and sensitivity and DO NOT pull any 'they deserved it' crap here.

I will not be repeating this. Do yourselves a favor and don't push it.

Good man, Major Tom. Good man.

On other things, while many people are likely going to make the knee-jerk reaction and gasp "Ohmigod, Al Qieda is back after all these years!", I'm willing to bet it was standard domestic terrorism. Now, if it comes out as being different, I will swallow my claim, but essentially 90% of terrorist acts in America during the 20th century were perpetrated by other Americans, as much as that sickens me.

There's nothing an innocent person can possibly do to warrant this kind of attack, other than to show that some bat-gak crazy idiot wants to show how evil they are.

I know people have already dies from this attack, but I'll certainly cross my fingers for the ones that can still pull through.

Seconded. There are some lines it just isn't funny to cross.
And yeah, people have been bringing up that Saudi Arabian mystery "suspect" - as some outlets are labelling him - and it seems to me that things are too soon to know for sure who's behind it all and what's going on.
Either way, the people behind it are about to learn the hard way that you don't pull this gak in the most powerful country in the world and expect to get away with it.

 Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
And yeah, people have been bringing up that Saudi Arabian mystery "suspect" - as some outlets are labelling him - and it seems to me that things are too soon to know for sure who's behind it all and what's going on.
Either way, the people behind it are about to learn the hard way that you don't pull this gak in the most powerful country in the world and expect to get away with it.

I'm only bringing it up as a possible feature that may develop. I'm not trying to report it as fact, so apologies if it has read like that. It is quite feasible that he is wholly innocent, was caught up in events and, quite reasonably, ran after the explosions

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
And yeah, people have been bringing up that Saudi Arabian mystery "suspect" - as some outlets are labelling him - and it seems to me that things are too soon to know for sure who's behind it all and what's going on.
Either way, the people behind it are about to learn the hard way that you don't pull this gak in the most powerful country in the world and expect to get away with it.

I'm only bringing it up as a possible feature that may develop. I'm not trying to report it as fact, so apologies if it has read like that. It is quite feasible that he is wholly innocent, was caught up in events and, quite reasonably, ran after the explosions

Oh, I don't mean you. Nobody in the thread's been doing this, but a few of the usual suspects amongst the news outlets have been waving it around.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
"When did we stop counting the bodies of the dead?"

Where's that quote from Kalashnikov?

It's terrible. I'm trying to watch the news meanwhile the parents want to move on and watch their everyday Television. I understand not a lot is coming in right now, but id rather be right there for when something does..

 DA's Forever wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
"When did we stop counting the bodies of the dead?"

Where's that quote from Kalashnikov?

A character named Yui Takamura from "Total Eclipse" kinda lame mecha anime, but the first two episodes have serious mass casualties and plenty of nightmare fuel.

 Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
Oh, I don't mean you. Nobody in the thread's been doing this, but a few of the usual suspects amongst the news outlets have been waving it around.

I know, but because I've posted it a few times I thought I'd just take the chance to clear things up

Mhm, just found a bit of info that may explain the amount of injured/presumed dead despite the smallish size of the explosives.

They were reportedly stuffed with ball bearings.

I live about 25 minutes west of Boston, my sister lives in Boston, and I have a lot friends in the city as well. I've been super blessed everyone I could get in touch with is safe. Thoughts and prayers to anyone that was close or in the city at all.

My younger sister was at the finish line with her massage therapy class giving free massages to the athletes as they finished if they wanted one.

She was about 150 from the explosions though, thank God.

Terrorists should really learn that we will not cower in a hole, nor will it advance their fekked up ideals, all this does is band good people together to help the victims and seek justice which means hunting those deranged psychopaths down, no matter how long it takes.

 Monster Rain wrote:
My younger sister was at the finish line with her massage therapy class giving free massages to the athletes as they finished if they wanted one.

She was about 150 from the explosions though, thank God.

Damn, glad to hear that she wasn't hurt in all this

 DA's Forever wrote:
The only thing that sickens me more than the act itself is the way some people are reacting to it. People I know have seen the event, essential shrugged, and moved on with their day. I know people deal with things like this certain ways but that's just... its terrible. We have too many tragedies happening. People are, for lack of a better word, becoming used to this. Its not right.

I don't know, the only emotional response I had was "desire to see the people responsible flayed, covered in quicklime, and burned alive," with a dab of "regret they won't get anything so horrific as they deserve once caught," and then I went right back to what I was doing.

The ability to keep going in the face of horror is a strength. Being incapacitated with rage or grief is weakness, and it's what the filthy animals who pull things like this want from everyone.

One of the deceased is confirmed as an 8 year old boy.

Rest In Peace

 Soladrin wrote:
Mhm, just found a bit of info that may explain the amount of injured/presumed dead despite the smallish size of the explosives.

They were reportedly stuffed with ball bearings.

The more I hear about the attack, the more this screams to me professional involvement. IE, the folks we've been fighting the past 12 years.

I almost wish I was at work right now so I could be hearing the latest data to come in.

 DA's Forever wrote:
The only thing that sickens me more than the act itself is the way some people are reacting to it. People I know have seen the event, essential shrugged, and moved on with their day. I know people deal with things like this certain ways but that's just... its terrible. We have too many tragedies happening. People are, for lack of a better word, becoming used to this. Its not right.

I've been following it and been saddened by it.

I did decide to follow through with the plan I started the day with:

I am now painting the nursery for my unborn daughter.

I hate painting, there is just about anything I would rather do than paint that room. This event would be the perfect excuse to sit in front of the TV with a blank stare.

But now painting that room is kind of cathartic. A midst all the hurt and death and tragedy, it reminds me of hope and of life.

This is not really directed as any kind of criticism against you or your statement. Just had me thinking about ways we cope.

To call this terrorism is to give too much credit to the cowards behind this act. They're murderers, plain and simple.
And, I don't mean to sound cold and uncaring, but they're fairly incompetent cowards as well, since they couldn't even get all of their bombs to go off. But that incompetence will make sure they get caught.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
One of the deceased is confirmed as an 8 year old boy.

Rest In Peace

feth.
That's hard news to take. I have nothing but the deepest sympathies for his parents right now.