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 Breotan wrote:
Well, not even 24 hours have passed and we have Congressmen spewing their partisan bile.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barney-frank-no-tax-cut-would-have-helped-us-deal_717921.html

He raises a very, very good point:

n this terrible situation, let's be very grateful that we had a well-funded, functioning government. It is very fashionable in America, and has been for some time to criticize government, belittle public employees, talk about their pensions, talk about what people think ... of [their] health care. Here we saw government in two ways perform very well.

 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:

I hope the people still in hospital pull through.

One of the good things to come out of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars is medical knowledge for treating these types of injuries and new tech for the follow up prosthesis. The folks that do pull through (hopefully all) will benefit from this.

The Dark Apostle wrote:
I know that other dark apostle, what I meant was that America expect so much sorrow yet they offer none to others, I never stated how that pain is irrelevant, and I'm very sorry if my comments sounded racist, or nationist if that's a word

Believe the word you're looking for is Nationalist, but I could be wrong, I was fething terrible in history class..

Also, you wanna clear up this statement: "America expects so much sorrow yet they offer non to others"?


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 CptJake wrote:

 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:

I hope the people still in hospital pull through.

One of the good things to come out of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars is medical knowledge for treating these types of injuries and new tech for the follow up prosthesis. The folks that do pull through (hopefully all) will benefit from this.

Hopefully they can afford the treatment :-\

I believe this was a similar issue with people injured during 9/11. They got injured, and couldn't afford the medical treatments

The Dark Apostle wrote:
I know that other dark apostle, what I meant was that America expect so much sorrow yet they offer none to others, I never stated how that pain is irrelevant, and I'm very sorry if my comments sounded racist, or nationist if that's a word

Um... ex-squeeze me boyo...

What's this "America expect so much sorrow yet they offer none to others"???
edit: ninja'ed by Alfndrate...

Gents. Hit the yellow triangle of friendship and move on, please.

From what I've seen they offer little,
A few days ago a house was invaded by the IRA, a man was tied down and shot infront of his families, America has been silent.
I have alot of anger towards America on numerous things and I'm sorry for putting my anger out like this, I'll delete the comment.

its not our fault that news doesn't reach us. We finally stopped paying attention to the IRA because they just don't deserve it. Its not that we don't care, its that it just doesn't get brought to our attention.

 kronk wrote:
Gents. Hit the yellow triangle of friendship and move on, please.

I would, but I certainly don't think DA is breaking any level of Dakka rules, I'm just a little confused about this.


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The Dark Apostle wrote:
From what I've seen they offer little,
A few days ago a house was invaded by the IRA, a man was tied down and shot infront of his families, America has been silent.
I have alot of anger towards America on numerous things and I'm sorry for putting my anger out like this, I'll delete the comment.

Okay, like Gray Templar said, it's very possible that it just didn't reach us here in America, condolences man...


Also, to the colossal donkey-cave that did this... I hope whatever hole you're hiding in offers you no respite, and no peace for the pure and simple fact that this little boy isn't here anymore, and for the fact that you ripped a family apart. While the Martin Richard rests peacefully, his father has to mourn his death, and pray that his wife and daughter...

 Alfndrate wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Gents. Hit the yellow triangle of friendship and move on, please.

I would, but I certainly don't think DA is breaking any level of Dakka rules, I'm just a little confused about this.

Thank you alfndrate, I just want people to realise that there are equally horrible things going on else where. Most of which get little to no coverage.

The Dark Apostle wrote:

I have alot of anger towards America on numerous things and I'm sorry for putting my anger out like this

Please make a separate thread and say your piece. Leave it out of here.

I don't see DA's comments as flamebait. His point is, hey, why am I hearing about Boston when you never heard about Dublin? Is America really so special that American tragedies are more tragic. I hope everyone knows the answer to that is No. Then how do we explain why this is such a big issue comparatively? Maybe because it's rarer? DA didn't say, as MT11 warned people not to, that Boston or the USA deserved these events.

So stop piling in on him for posting something critical. Just because a bomb goes off, just because people get hurt, doesn't mean we turn off our brains.

That's a good idea, I think I should make a thread showing all the trouble that goes on in the world that you SHOULD be hearing..... Thank you

Terrorist bombings in America and Iraq, suicides, earthquakes all happening in one day... welcome to planet earth, have a miserable stay.

Thank you Manchu, you see what I was trying to say, I've got a bad strength at stringing sentences together due to a misfire of dyslexia and English not being a first language.

 Manchu wrote:

So stop piling in on him for posting something critical.

He edited the post in question, which is very much what MajorTom's post is about, Manchu.

Thank you for editing that post, The DA. I'll be happy to weigh in your new thread.

 MetalOxide wrote:
Terrorist bombings in America and Iraq, suicides, earthquakes all happening in one day... welcome to planet earth, have a miserable stay.

People sharing good times, family and friends caring for each other, strangers helping one another out, great art (and even bad art) being made, laughter, and wiener dogs roaming the plains all happening in one day...welcome to planet Earth, your stay will be as enjoyable as you choose to make it.

 Ahtman wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:
Terrorist bombings in America and Iraq, suicides, earthquakes all happening in one day... welcome to planet earth, have a miserable stay.

People sharing good times, family and friends caring for each other, strangers helping one another out, great art (and even bad art) being made, laughter, and wiener dogs roaming the plains all happening in one day...welcome to planet Earth, your stay will be as enjoyable as you choose to make it.

Wiener dogs always brighten up the day.


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The Dark Apostle wrote:
That's a good idea, I think I should make a thread showing all the trouble that goes on in the world that you SHOULD be hearing..... Thank you

Please do, there is news that is not getting enough media coverage.

 kronk wrote:
He edited the post in question, which is very much what MajorTom's post is about, Manchu.

I read his pre-edited comment and that is what I was referring to in my post. It was not against our site's rules.

I think it's quite a good thing to point out that this kind of attack is and has been a fact of life elsewhere in the world. We Americans would do well to consider that as the coverage ramps up, not because any American lives lost or disrupted are less valuable for that reason, but because events like these should make us think critically rather than self-righteously.

The Barney Frank thing is a great example. Yes, thank goodness we do have the government services we do. Not only would yesterday have been a lot worse if the anti-government demographic in this country had its way but these kind of bombings would probably be more frequent.

The Dark Apostle wrote:
From what I've seen they offer little,
A few days ago a house was invaded by the IRA, a man was tied down and shot infront of his families, America has been silent.
I have alot of anger towards America on numerous things and I'm sorry for putting my anger out like this, I'll delete the comment.

I'm trying to understand why you you're angry at the US for it. The US has nothing to do with the IRA, or Ireland for that matter. Indeed, until a discussion on this board a few weeks ago, I didn't even know the IRA still existed.


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The Dark Apostle wrote:
That's a good idea, I think I should make a thread showing all the trouble that goes on in the world that you SHOULD be hearing..... Thank you

Make one. I'll troll it like you're trolling this one mayhaps.


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 Ahtman wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:
Terrorist bombings in America and Iraq, suicides, earthquakes all happening in one day... welcome to planet earth, have a miserable stay.

People sharing good times, family and friends caring for each other, strangers helping one another out, great art (and even bad art) being made, laughter, and wiener dogs roaming the plains all happening in one day...welcome to planet Earth, your stay will be as enjoyable as you choose to make it.

Queso, barbeque, and wiener dogs.

 Frazzled wrote:
until a discussion on this board a few weeks ago, I didn't even know the IRA still existed

I think that's exactly the kind of ignorance he's upset about.

 Manchu wrote:

 kronk wrote:
He edited the post in question, which is very much what MajorTom's post is about, Manchu.

I read his pre-edited comment and that is what I was referring to in my post. It was not against our site's rules.

And I firmly disagree. So I hit the yellow triangle and will continue to do so if similar posts are made.

 kronk wrote:
So I hit the yellow triangle and will continue to do so if similar posts are made.

And that alone will suffice entirely.

 Manchu wrote:
He raises a very, very good point:

n this terrible situation, let's be very grateful that we had a well-funded, functioning government. It is very fashionable in America, and has been for some time to criticize government, belittle public employees, talk about their pensions, talk about what people think ... of [their] health care. Here we saw government in two ways perform very well.

Yeah, let's whip that political storm up, Moderator.

Small government can still have the services that are helping in a crisis like this. This is what a government is supposed to do.

 kronk wrote:
And I firmly disagree. So I hit the yellow triangle and will continue to do so if similar posts are made.

Sounds solid to me

 kronk wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 kronk wrote:
He edited the post in question, which is very much what MajorTom's post is about, Manchu.

I read his pre-edited comment and that is what I was referring to in my post. It was not against our site's rules.

And I firmly disagree. So I hit the yellow triangle and will continue to do so if similar posts are made.

To rule by emotion is a bad thing regardless of how 'just' it seems.

 Seaward wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
He raises a very, very good point:

n this terrible situation, let's be very grateful that we had a well-funded, functioning government. It is very fashionable in America, and has been for some time to criticize government, belittle public employees, talk about their pensions, talk about what people think ... of [their] health care. Here we saw government in two ways perform very well.

Yeah, let's whip that political storm up, Moderator.

How about this:

Here we saw government in two ways perform very well.

Does that make a good point?

Kronk how was I being trollish? I worded my sentence badly, but Manchu corrected me. Think of other countries, and how much they suffer, this morning in Pakistan, 12 people were killed in a very similar incident to that in Boston. In a year today, I won't be seeing a memorial to them will I?

The Dark Apostle wrote:
Kronk how was I being trollish? I worded my sentence badly, but Manchu corrected me. Think of other countries, and how much they suffer, this morning in Pakistan, 12 people were killed in a very similar incident to that in Boston. In a year today, I won't be seeing a memorial to them will I?

Maybe that's a discussion for another thread, like the one you said that you would create.