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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 16:50:26
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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CptJake wrote:And I'll go the other route.
The types of devices, the spacing and timing are very similar to what we have seen in Afghanistan and places where AQ and their ilk are active. Add in that Inspire published a 'how to' for these types of devices and I would guess an AQ type, or influenced by AQ.
Add in the target selection is much more in line with AQ types vice typical anti government types. (Again, even Inspire urges targeting sporting events and the like).
Bottom line is, we don't know yet.
There's also a report that a known AQ '13 magazine had instructions to building such pressure cooker bombs...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 16:56:11
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 16:57:43
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Fixture of Dakka
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whembly wrote: CptJake wrote:And I'll go the other route.
The types of devices, the spacing and timing are very similar to what we have seen in Afghanistan and places where AQ and their ilk are active. Add in that Inspire published a 'how to' for these types of devices and I would guess an AQ type, or influenced by AQ.
Add in the target selection is much more in line with AQ types vice typical anti government types. (Again, even Inspire urges targeting sporting events and the like).
Bottom line is, we don't know yet.
There's also a report that a known AQ '13 magazine had instructions to building such pressure cooker bombs...
That is what Inspire is. And it isn't a report, I've seen the magazine (over a year ago).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:03:54
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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The stupidity burns. So because what appears to be a lone individual. based on the evidence to date, detonates a low quality improvised explosive device we should start handing over an unrelated item? Genius..... maybe he'll ask for a pressure cooker registry next. And the "Lets hope it was a white guy", what would the reaction if we substitute a minority for white guy in the report?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:32:25
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Dreadclaw69 wrote:
The stupidity burns. So because what appears to be a lone individual. based on the evidence to date, detonates a low quality improvised explosive device we should start handing over an unrelated item? Genius..... maybe he'll ask for a pressure cooker registry next. And the "Lets hope it was a white guy", what would the reaction if we substitute a minority for white guy in the report?
1. Jay Mohr is likely trying to gain some press attention so that he can be hyped up for a D-list reality TV show. He should be ignored forever, just like he has been so far.
2. Given the knee-jerk fear reactions to "the other" that has been displayed in the recent past...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:32:33
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Seeing this all over my twittah feed:
Big Break in Bombing Case: Suspect Has Been Clearly Identified Using Video from Day of Marathon
Trying to find more info...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:35:41
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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azazel the cat wrote:1. Jay Mohr is likely trying to gain some press attention so that he can be hyped up for a D-list reality TV show. He should be ignored forever, just like he has been so far.
2. Given the knee-jerk fear reactions to "the other" that has been displayed in the recent past...
In agreement over 1. because I'd never heard of him until this thread. As regards 2. should we be pointing the finger at anyone until the facts are established, much less hoping that its a certain group? Like I said substitute your minority of choice for White Man in that article and guess what the reaction will be. Automatically Appended Next Post: whembly wrote:Seeing this all over my twittah feed:
Big Break in Bombing Case: Suspect Has Been Clearly Identified Using Video from Day of Marathon
Trying to find more info...
Great news! Hopefully that's means whomever is responsible is apprehended and brought to justice quickly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:43:20
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Breaking! Authorities say they have a suspect identified and make a good point about previous knowledge leading to assumptions amongst people with experience.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html
(CNN) -- Investigators believe they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, a source who has been briefed on the investigation told CNN's John King exclusively.
The breakthrough came from analysis of video from a department store near the site of the second explosion. Video from a Boston television station also contributed to the progress, said the source, who declined to be more specific but called it a significant development.
Earlier, a federal law enforcement source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation told CNN that a lid to a pressure cooker thought to have been used in the bombings had been found on a roof of a building near the scene.
While such clues may move the investigation forward, they did not reveal whether the attack was an act of domestic or foreign terrorism.
Tracking suspects in the Boston bombings
New clues in Boston Marathon attack
"If your experience and your expertise is Middle East terrorism, it has the hallmarks of al Qaeda or a Middle East group," former FBI Assistant Director Tom Fuentes said. "If your experience is domestic groups and bombings that have occurred here, it has the hallmarks of a domestic terrorist like Eric Rudolph in the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics bombings."
Bolded point is extremely relevant to all the speculation flying around.
Further breaking: Circuit board for the detonation system for one of the bombs believed to have been found.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/17/fbi-boston-police-say-range-suspects-motives-remains-wide-open/#ixzz2Qk9JOvD4
DEVELOPING: Fox News has been told that the circuit board suspected of being used to detonate the Boston Marathon bomb has been recovered, and that FBI investigators continue to scan and analyze the cell phone tower records to identify positive hits for signs of calls that may have triggered both explosions remotely.
So sounds like the police/FBI are looking for evidence of a command detonated cell phone type IED
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:45:02
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Good, it sounds like the proverbial noose is tightening. Hopefully they catch the perpetrator soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:48:41
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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CNN reporting an arrest has been made.
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sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 17:59:27
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That Salon article is beyond ridiculous.
We bombed Al Qaeda because they claimed responsibility and we knew where they were. We didn't bomb anyone when McVeigh pulled his shenanigans because... he actually was a lone wolf. If he had ran off to some remote location and was surrounded by crazed supporters that wouldn't give him up I bet things would have gone differently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:11:32
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Monster Rain wrote:That Salon article is beyond ridiculous.
We bombed Al Qaeda because they claimed responsibility and we knew where they were. We didn't bomb anyone when McVeigh pulled his shenanigans because... he actually was a lone wolf. If he had ran off to some remote location and was surrounded by crazed supporters that wouldn't give him up I bet things would have gone differently.
You're letting facts get in the way of polemic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:29:44
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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More arrest? via trittah:
Breaking: Police source says two arrests have been made in #Boston Marathon bombing, according to @foxnews
— Casey Stegall (@caseystegall) April 17, 2013
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:32:50
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Now they are saying no one has been arrested. #businessasusual
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++ Heed my words for I am the Herald and we are the footsteps of doom. Interlopers, do we name you. Defilers of our
sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:37:55
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fox news as usual.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:40:30
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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They weren't the only outlet carrying the news - http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
(CNN) -- Authorities arrested a suspect Wednesday in the fatal bombings at the Boston Marathon, a federal law enforcement source told CNN's Fran Townsend.
Details about the suspect's identity and motive were not immediately available. News of the arrest was first reported by CNN.
Investigators identified the suspect based on two videos taken before Monday's attack, the federal law enforcement source told Townsend.
One of the videos was surveillance footage taken at the nearby Lord & Taylor department store, the other was shot by a Boston television station, a source who has has been briefed on the investigation exclusively told CNN's John King.
The development came after a chaotic day in which investigators revealed more details about the makeup of the bombs and apparently unrelated scares over letters containing ricin gripped the nation's capital.
The bombs exploded 12 seconds apart near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing three people and wounding about 180 others.
One of the bombs was housed in a pressure cooker hidden inside a backpack, the FBI said in a joint intelligence bulletin. The device also had fragments that may have included nails, BBs and ball bearings, the agency said.
The second bomb was also housed in a metal container, but it was not clear whether it too was in a pressure cooker, the FBI said.
The U.S. government has warned federal agencies in the past that terrorists could turn pressure cookers into bombs by packing them with explosives and shrapnel and detonating them with blasting caps. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Digital age media strikes again with speed over accuracy
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
(CNN) -- [Breaking news update at 2:36 p.m. Wednesday]
There is conflicting information as to whether someone has been arrested in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings. A federal law enforcement source told CNN's Fran Townsend that someone was arrested. But later, two senior administration officials and another federal official told Townsend that there had been a misunderstanding among officials and that no one has been arrested.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:43:56
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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muh jimmies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:44:17
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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[DCM]
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Fox news is hardly at the forefront of news agencies who put breaking news up before confirming the facts in an effort to be the first ones with the scoop. They are all equally guilty as far as that goes. There is no news outlet that waits to confirm breaking news.
There are legitimate criticisms that can be leveled against Fox news, but this is definitely not one of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:45:45
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Okay, American News as usual then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:48:23
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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[DCM]
The Main Man
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Try corporate news as usual. European news outlets don't have breaking news?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:50:14
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You are aware European news doesn't really mean anything. Europe isn't a country...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:52:00
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Although the top comment makes me happy.
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"So, do please come along when we're promoting something new and need photos for the facebook page or to send to our regional manager, do please engage in our gaming when we're pushing something specific hard and need to get the little kiddies drifting past to want to come in an see what all the fuss is about. But otherwise, stay the feth out, you smelly, antisocial bastards, because we're scared you are going to say something that goes against our mantra of absolute devotion to the corporate motherland and we actually perceive any of you who've been gaming more than a year to be a hostile entity as you've been exposed to the internet and 'dangerous ideas'. " - MeanGreenStompa
"Then someone mentions Infinity and everyone ignores it because no one really plays it." - nkelsch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:52:30
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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[DCM]
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Soladrin wrote:You are aware European news doesn't really mean anything. Europe isn't a country...
Nothing in my previous post implied that Europe was a country. European news outlets = news outlets from Europe. Something can originate from a place without that place being a country.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:53:01
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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If only we had The Daily Mail and Pravda to give us our current events.
Any particular reason you're trolling this thread?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:53:35
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hordini wrote: Soladrin wrote:You are aware European news doesn't really mean anything. Europe isn't a country...
Nothing in my previous post implied that Europe was a country.
It does imply that European news functions on single outlets for the entire Continent. I stick to Dutch news channels for most things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:53:56
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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KalashnikovMarine wrote:
"If your experience and your expertise is Middle East terrorism, it has the hallmarks of al Qaeda or a Middle East group," former FBI Assistant Director Tom Fuentes said. "If your experience is domestic groups and bombings that have occurred here, it has the hallmarks of a domestic terrorist like Eric Rudolph in the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics bombings."
Bolded point is extremely relevant to all the speculation flying around.
Point.
I'll add though that my area of expertise is actually bombings in general rather than 'US' or 'Afghan' specific. Trained or experienced bombers *tend* to use more potent explosives than simple black powder, however, if available. This *suggests* that this is an amateur bomb maker who bought an easily available over the counter explosive rather than mixing their own more potent brew. The symbolism of bombing an event to commemorate the battles of Lexington and Concord has a highly 'American' symbolism. ('a shot heard 'round the world')
Though it is true that foreign terrorists would likely try for a sporting event, the Boston Marathon is less than ideal. You want something where a large number of people are crowded into a more or less confined area, like a football or baseball game.
The real issue with a 'foreign triggerman' is that they would have detonated at the moment the first runner crossed the line (the moment of absolute maximum world wide media coverage for maximum 'terror' impact) rather than wait and hope for a sufficiently large group of stragglers to give it a big enough body count.
While I can't deny a similarity to the Afghan IEDs I'll also point out that it's also similar to European (specifically a certain style of Irish) devices as well. Factor in we live in the age of the internet with bomb plans and home brew explosive mixes traded like beer recipes and there is significant uncertainty.
Throw in the fact that today Harry Reid and Barak Obama both received Ricin in the mail...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:55:33
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Soladrin wrote: Hordini wrote: Soladrin wrote:You are aware European news doesn't really mean anything. Europe isn't a country...
Nothing in my previous post implied that Europe was a country.
It does imply that European news functions on single outlets for the entire Continent. I stick to Dutch news channels for most things.
If I read European news, it's usually from German sources. Do Dutch news channels not have breaking news?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 18:57:27
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hordini wrote: Soladrin wrote: Hordini wrote: Soladrin wrote:You are aware European news doesn't really mean anything. Europe isn't a country...
Nothing in my previous post implied that Europe was a country.
It does imply that European news functions on single outlets for the entire Continent. I stick to Dutch news channels for most things.
If I read European news, it's usually from German sources. Do Dutch news channels not have breaking news?
I don't think we even have a dedicated news channel. I just stick to 8 o'clock news and nu.nl for most things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 19:16:14
Subject: Re:Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Yup... now I think the news agencies are trying to be "the first" to report an arrest or new information.
Now this:
SUSPECT: White Male, White Hat, Gray Sweatshirt, Black Jacket, Cap on Backwards
Is that two "right" hands there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/17 19:19:46
Subject: Explosion reported near Boston Marathon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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His cap seems pretty straight to me..
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