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 Seaward wrote:

I must've missed something.

What Saudi student?

One of the people questioned following the blast was a Saudi national. The FBI quickly determined he had nothing to do with it, but the media wasn't so quick to dismiss the 'guilt' of a foreign national, so the Government is hustling him out of the country to avoid any potential 'incidents'.

 Frazzled wrote:
The one that was variously described as a suspect, student of interest, witness, etc. at the hospital.

Oh. Hadn't heard about that. I just keep seeing the before/ after pictures of two gentlemen of apparent Middle Eastern descent with and without large bags being circulated.

I think it was the Saudi national who's apartment was searched in the past few days. It could have been any number of things, but maybe they found something there that was a red flag?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I think it was the Saudi national who's apartment was searched in the past few days. It could have been any number of things, but maybe they found something there that was a red flag?

I don't think they found anything. He was fleeing the scene with 2 backpacks, according to reports/speculation/rumors. So he was detained and questioned and cleared of any wrong-doing.

Edit: I'm looking for an article concerning him being deported and why, but none of the media outlets have it right now. Just the crazy conspiracy websites and/or extremist blogs. So, I'm not linking any of them. If something pops up on CNN, ABC, or the like, I'll read that.

Until then, it's a rumor.

 kronk wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I think it was the Saudi national who's apartment was searched in the past few days. It could have been any number of things, but maybe they found something there that was a red flag?

I don't think they found anything. He was fleeing the scene with 2 backpacks, according to reports/speculation/rumors. So he was detained and questioned and cleared of any wrong-doing.

Edit: I'm looking for an article concerning him being deported and why, but none of the media outlets have it right now. Just the crazy conspiracy websites and/or extremist blogs. So, I'm not linking any of them. If something pops up on CNN, ABC, or the like, I'll read that.

Until then, it's a rumor.

Exactly.

They need to move on this fast before this stuff gets out of hand.

 kronk wrote:
Edit: I'm looking for an article concerning him being deported and why, but none of the media outlets have it right now. Just the crazy conspiracy websites and/or extremist blogs. So, I'm not linking any of them. If something pops up on CNN, ABC, or the like, I'll read that.

I think that we can do without giving the crazies more web traffic so good call

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Edit: I'm looking for an article concerning him being deported and why, but none of the media outlets have it right now. Just the crazy conspiracy websites and/or extremist blogs. So, I'm not linking any of them. If something pops up on CNN, ABC, or the like, I'll read that.

I think that we can do without giving the crazies more web traffic so good call

I took an exploratory look on those sites and it's been reported that the Saudi is being deported because of his connection to terrorist activities (not related to the Boston Attack) and that he's connected to a powerful/infuential Saudi familiy and the ICE is deporting him now to mitigate further embarassment to the powerful Saudi family.

ugh... need to scrub my eyeballs... not doing that again. o.O

 whembly wrote:
I took an exploratory look on those sites and it's been reported that the Saudi is being deported because of his connection to terrorist activities (not related to the Boston Attack) and that he's connected to a powerful/infuential Saudi familiy and the ICE is deporting him now to mitigate further embarassment to the powerful Saudi family.

ugh... need to scrub my eyeballs... not doing that again. o.O

I hope none of your brain cells died from expose to those sites

I think I lost a couple just hearing about it, it may be too late for Whembly.

 whembly wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
And I'll go the other route.

The types of devices, the spacing and timing are very similar to what we have seen in Afghanistan and places where AQ and their ilk are active. Add in that Inspire published a 'how to' for these types of devices and I would guess an AQ type, or influenced by AQ.

Add in the target selection is much more in line with AQ types vice typical anti government types. (Again, even Inspire urges targeting sporting events and the like).

Bottom line is, we don't know yet.

There's also a report that a known AQ '13 magazine had instructions to building such pressure cooker bombs...

So this could be the reasons the cops suspect anyone in Boston speaking 'foreign accents'?

there also a talk about 'Nigerians' who were caught and questioned by cops.
AQ is said to have African connections in many countries with significant muslim populations. Also Nigerian muslims were said to have a very low anger treshold. any remarks to the God by any media is treated as 'blasphemy'. a serious crime they believe it is punishable by death, a very horrible and torturing death!

 Lone Cat wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
And I'll go the other route.

The types of devices, the spacing and timing are very similar to what we have seen in Afghanistan and places where AQ and their ilk are active. Add in that Inspire published a 'how to' for these types of devices and I would guess an AQ type, or influenced by AQ.

Add in the target selection is much more in line with AQ types vice typical anti government types. (Again, even Inspire urges targeting sporting events and the like).

Bottom line is, we don't know yet.

There's also a report that a known AQ '13 magazine had instructions to building such pressure cooker bombs...

So this could be the reasons the cops suspect anyone in Boston speaking 'foreign accents'?

there also a talk about 'Nigerians' who were caught and questioned by cops.
AQ is said to have African connections in many countries with significant muslim populations. Also Nigerian muslims were said to have a very low anger treshold. any remarks to the God by any media is treated as 'blasphemy'. a serious crime they believe it is punishable by death, a very horrible and torturing death!

what? I... what?

 whembly wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Edit: I'm looking for an article concerning him being deported and why, but none of the media outlets have it right now. Just the crazy conspiracy websites and/or extremist blogs. So, I'm not linking any of them. If something pops up on CNN, ABC, or the like, I'll read that.

I think that we can do without giving the crazies more web traffic so good call

I took an exploratory look on those sites and it's been reported that the Saudi is being deported because of his connection to terrorist activities (not related to the Boston Attack) and that he's connected to a powerful/infuential Saudi familiy and the ICE is deporting him now to mitigate further embarassment to the powerful Saudi family.

ugh... need to scrub my eyeballs... not doing that again. o.O

Yea I wouldn't do that again if I were you. I like to occasionally drop in on left wing stuff and right wing stuff to point and laugh, but its not for the timid.


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 Lone Cat wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
And I'll go the other route.

The types of devices, the spacing and timing are very similar to what we have seen in Afghanistan and places where AQ and their ilk are active. Add in that Inspire published a 'how to' for these types of devices and I would guess an AQ type, or influenced by AQ.

Add in the target selection is much more in line with AQ types vice typical anti government types. (Again, even Inspire urges targeting sporting events and the like).

Bottom line is, we don't know yet.

There's also a report that a known AQ '13 magazine had instructions to building such pressure cooker bombs...

So this could be the reasons the cops suspect anyone in Boston speaking 'foreign accents'?

there also a talk about 'Nigerians' who were caught and questioned by cops.
AQ is said to have African connections in many countries with significant muslim populations. Also Nigerian muslims were said to have a very low anger treshold. any remarks to the God by any media is treated as 'blasphemy'. a serious crime they believe it is punishable by death, a very horrible and torturing death!

There were a bunch of them, gathered at the front, wearing ribbons that said "First Place", they must be terrorists!

 Frazzled wrote:
Yea I wouldn't do that again if I were you. I like to occasionally drop in on left wing stuff and right wing stuff to point and laugh, but its not for the timid.

I like to do the same, that way I know I'm keeping myself relatively centered by comparison

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:


what? I... what?

Let it go, man. Just walk away quickly...

 whembly wrote:

ugh... need to scrub my eyeballs... not doing that again. o.O

Exactly. Still nothing...

Welp, it's on FOX, but not seeing anything on CNN or other news networks. Gotta run to lunch, though. Just "sources say". Hopefully his sources aren't those crappy blogs...

Link to fox article, with video that I didn't watch.

I would not be surprised if there are going to be people who will be followed by this event even if they had nothing to do with it...

[ur=http://gawker.com/5994955/the-posts-person-of-interest-is-a-local-high+school-track-runnerl]The Post’s ‘Person of Interest’ Is a Local High-School Track Runner[/url]



"BAG MEN," the New York Post's front cover brays this morning, underneath a photo of two Boston Marathon spectators. "Feds seek these two pictured at Boston Marathon." After its embarrassing performance on Monday in the aftermath of the marathon bombings, has the Post redeemed itself by scooping the first, much-discussed photos of the suspects?

No. As CBS' John Miller reports, neither man is likely to be a suspect in the bombings, and these are not the pictures of the possible suspects that authorities plan on releasing. But I didn't need John Miller to tell me that— the "persons of interest" in the photos are two local kids who had already been checked out by Reddit and other message-board "crowd-sleuthing" efforts yesterday, and found to be a incredibly unlikely suspects.
As we documented yesterday, the a large and active community of amateur detectives, dedicated to the close examination of photographs of the scene, emerged on the link-sharing site Reddit (and elsewhere) in the aftermath of Monday's bombing. Their efforts were going about as well as you might imagine, which is to say, not very well—lots of MS-Paint circles and lots of near-baseless speculation.

But thanks to their ability to do really basic internet detective work, they managed to figure out pretty quickly that the guy in the blue track jacket almost certainly isn't a bomber. All they had to do was find his Facebook. I was able to do it pretty quickly: He's a Moroccan-American kid, a local high-school soccer player and track runner (possibly he and his friend's track outfits could have been a tipoff that they were actually interested in the race?) who works at Subway and likes How High and The Hunger Games. On Monday, he took a couple of geekily enthusiastic photos of himself at the marathon. These were the latest posts on his News Feed (since deleted; he's also changed his name on Facebook):



Now: Were cops circulating his photo, as the Post reports? Probably, yes, they were circulating them internally, sanely, and responsibly, along with many other photos, the way police do (or should). Are or were he and his friend "persons of interest"? Sure! Maybe.

It took Redditors a few hours to find that Facebook page; it took me about ten minutes in the wake of their work. If you have even a little faith in the FBI, it's difficult to imagine that its investigators didn't figure out who this kid is, and how unlikely he is as a suspect, yesterday—especially after he went to authorities to clear his name.

Which means there are two possibilities: one, the Post newsroom couldn't even be bothered to do the bare minimum of follow-up reporting—that after reporters had spoken to their sources, who gave them at best outdated information, they didn't (or didn't know how to) spend the ten minutes it would have taken to learn that the person in the photos had been identified already—by message board posters!—as a person who did not plant a bomb at the Boston Marathon.

Or, two, that the the Post did the followup reporting—that its reporters found out that the kid had been identified online, that he'd contacted authorities, that he's just some poor teenager who posts "SWAG" image macros on his Facebook page—but is institutionally so committed to identifying an Arab, any Arab, as a terrorist, that it still splashed his photo on the front page and insinuated his suspect-hood.

You don't even need to leave the Post's website to understand why that's so damaging. For most of the morning, the article below their exposé on the scary Arab "persons of interest" was "Bx. idiots beat up ‘Arab' in revenge," a story about a Bangladeshi-American man who'd been assaulted in New York City the day of the marathon:

[O]ne of the men snarled, "Yeah, he's a f—king Arab," and the gang pounced, punching him on the head and body, dislocating his left shoulder and leaving him semiconscious. [...]

The victim said he went home and turned on the TV, and only then learned about the bombing and put two and two together.

"I saw the news, and then it hits me: That's why I got jumped," he said.

And this is why we have professionals who investigate these matter

I hope the journalists and editors involved lose their jobs. And I honestly don't often hope for things like that, but man, feth those guys. That is fething criminally irresponsible.

According to Dutch news FBI released the pics of suspects.

Article has no real info apart fromt that but the video shows the footage and a link to the FBI pics.


http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/3401518/fbi-geeft-fotos-verdachten-aanslagen-boston-vrij.html

Or is this Dutch news being really slow?

Nah, it seems to have hit all the major news channels recently.

Pressure Cooker......wow.....last time I and a bunch of others that have came across that type of IED were in Iraq and Afghanistan........

What bothered me the most though....they moved a ECM (think they're using a Duke II or a Warlock) into the area after the explosions. Complacent in effect

Innocent until proven guilty. Has everyone forgotten about this?

 Jihadin wrote:
Pressure Cooker......wow.....last time I and a bunch of others that have came across that type of IED were in Iraq and Afghanistan........

What bothered me the most though....they moved a ECM (think they're using a Duke II or a Warlock) into the area after the explosions. Complacent in effect

ECM?

English for non-military folks...

Electronic counter measures.

So, blocking cellphones, radio etc.

 whembly wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Pressure Cooker......wow.....last time I and a bunch of others that have came across that type of IED were in Iraq and Afghanistan........

What bothered me the most though....they moved a ECM (think they're using a Duke II or a Warlock) into the area after the explosions. Complacent in effect

ECM?

English for non-military folks...

from my days of EVE, I believe it means Electronic Counter-Measure

Edit: Too slow

Is that bad?

I mean, isn't the point to prevent any further detonation by cell phone if there are more bombs?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Is that bad?

I mean, isn't the point to prevent any further detonation by cell phone if there are more bombs?

Thanks all... (ECM = electronic counter measures).

@Jihadin: why do you think that's bad?

 Jihadin wrote:
Pressure Cooker......wow.....last time I and a bunch of others that have came across that type of IED were in Iraq and Afghanistan........

What bothered me the most though....they moved a ECM (think they're using a Duke II or a Warlock) into the area after the explosions. Complacent in effect

Well, they had no reason to turn it on before hand. But with all of the media reports of UXO's it was a prudent move to have it in there. They had no clue if there was other bombs, and putting the counter measure up until they could determine so was a smart decision. Nothing complacent about it.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Is that bad?

I mean, isn't the point to prevent any further detonation by cell phone if there are more bombs?

That's the idea. It's not 100% reliable though, and can really backfire if the devices have a deadman switch if they lose signal. They turn on the ECM and everything pops at once.

As far as 'pressure cooker' devices, again, they're not unique to the middle east. You'll find them any time there are a lot of IEDs in use.

How often are deadman switches used? Is it a major threat with things like this, can't be huge otherwise we probably wouldn't even use an ECM vehicle at all.