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Forar might know the story. At least 98% of it anyways.

I think I was asleep or drunk when I read the NYE weekly update, but reading it again had me laughing.

"In fact, we are talking with Harmony Gold to expand the range of Robotech® gaming products we can offer."

Good to start early this time.

"2013 was not a great year for book releases, with all too few in number. "

I know it's not Robotech but... lawlz.

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https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/1440349382851175/

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Forar might know the story. At least 98% of it anyways.

Can't say I do. Thing is, I used to be a fairly prolific poster in the early days of their forums, maybe a decade and a half ago or so, but when my group moved from Rifts to D&D 3E I eventually stopped visiting the PB forums entirely, only returning earlier this year when I heard about the miniatures game. There's a "where are they now" thread that explained where many of the old names I was accustomed to seeing had gone, but there are only a handful of people who post there that I recognize, and even fewer yet that recognize me. They changed forum software at some point in the last decade, so my old profile wasn't even around anymore (though I probably couldn't recall the password, and doubt I have access to the email it would've been associated with anyway).

But the more things change, the more they stay the same. It was like coming home again to find that they had dozens of books 'in the works' but only released a few recently. To see books they'd been touting as 'coming soon' years and years ago to have only just been released in the not too distant past. Was unfortunate to hear about the "crisis of treachery" (oh gods the melodrama...), of Kevin's divorce and whatnot, but at the same time realize that they had dirty laundry just hanging in the breeze all over the forums. They have threads sticky'd that refer to sales that ended literally years ago, and as the fanbase seems to have shrunk and become more insular, it's made them all the more testy and zealous. As noted before, there's one dude who seems like a generally okay guy, but takes pride in owning 8 copies of one book. Apparently has pretty much everything in duplicate and triplicate, if not more. Plans to snag at least 2 of the Heroes Unlimited anniversary hardcovers they're thinking of releasing. That's not a healthy stance for most people to take.

It's... a very strange place.

Manchu wrote:
Has anyone given any thought to what rules they will use once we get our minis?

Why, Alpha Strike of course!

Kind of been pinning my hopes on that, honestly.

It's a bit too simplified for my tastes with the "one damage to rule them all" per band for each mech instead of individual weapons. I do admit though that if you're planning to play Reckless sized games with all the figs at once that will likely be the best choice.

personally plan on converting Battletech to Tactics. Rules are pretty solid but I have been using my extrapolation of the released KS materials released so far.

Does the NDA you signed allow you to say anything? As in, have you played a game with the RRT rules yet?

Not whether or not they're good, or fun, or anything. Just a simple yes/no as to if you have the RRT rules and if you've played a game with them or not, if you're allowed to say.

.... also, blink once if you're okay and twice if they're holding your family hostage.

Don't forget that the conversation I had was on Christmas week and with new years and all..... I have emailed PB and am expecting something on or before this weekend and that may only include the NDA. I have no idea.

So in short I have not even seen the official rules at this time. Once I do I will play a few games and post pics and an AAR.

It's cool, just thought I'd make it clear I wasn't looking for you to jeopardize your inclusion off the hop.

Due to a jerk stirring up some gak on another forum I got booted from a beta test despite having nothing to do with him (but apparently was located in the same province or some crap), so I'd hate to see it happen to someone else.

There goes my Beta test hopes...

Was looking at my avatar... wonder if Ninja Division can get a Tron miniature game going... need to get checked for ADHD I think...

You'd be better off asking Mantic to do it, I think.

Tron minis could be fun but there is only really one side unless you figure out how to allow the bikes to take out Recognizers and Tanks. The only other option is a disc battle game and that would be really limited.

Mike1975 wrote:
personally plan on converting Battletech to Tactics. Rules are pretty solid but I have been using my extrapolation of the released KS materials released so far.

As previously stated.. be careful. This is the kind of reception you should be prepared for both from Palladium and some of the "fans"...

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=119607

Only with Palladium do you have to worry about a network of informants reporting back your every move just like in the former Eastern Bloc.

WTF

PB Fanboy Poster wrote:Am I a mod or administrator of the boards? No. Do I have the power to slap hands and say "bad boy!" out here? Maybe. Do I have the right to help protect PB and the other members out here who follow the rules? Absolutely.

And then reading Kevin's "legal analysis" blaming his policy on hypothetical lawsuits against him ...




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Oh sorry, I meant to reference Kevin© Siembieda™. I shouldn't call him "Kevin" because ... you know, something about Aliens and Predators.

Wow the crybaby that reported that thread is a $&@%. Poor guy wants advise and he gets pooed on.

Wow, that's quite a post there.

While I've heard about some of the requirements for those with intellectual property to aggressively defend their trademarks/copyrights/etc, this seems to go a little above and beyond.

Sure, they noted that it was against the rules and locked the thread.

Coming back a day later to throw down the "oh btw Palladium's staff have been told" comes across as laying it out a little too thickly.

The last comment was pedantic. So there. It was if the poster was trying to scare the OP. If this is a typical example no wonder the fan base is not larger than it is.

Hard to say. Palladium has a reputation for following that 'aggressively defending' part. Whether it's people making mountains out of molehills or an actual litigious nature, I haven't been watching enough over the years to really say.

Also, it felt right to make sure my 1000th post was in this thread. Let's see that title change!

Tomahawk pilot? I'll take it. Gotta get out of this skirt and into proper piloting gear!

After reading the above I couldn't resist.

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=141426&p=2753464#p2753464

 Forar wrote:
Hard to say. Palladium has a reputation for following that 'aggressively defending' part. Whether it's people making mountains out of molehills or an actual litigious nature, I haven't been watching enough over the years to really say.

Also, it felt right to make sure my 1000th post was in this thread. Let's see that title change!

Tomahawk pilot? I'll take it. Gotta get out of this skirt and into proper piloting gear!

The skirt was always optional as there was the unpublished option of dress slacks as well. Now get to the flight deck! Your big (death) scene is coming up! You don't want to miss your 5 seconds or airtime, do you? We both graduated from the bridge now. I'm a bit hesitant about posting as I like my current rank and the two of the next three are the joking humorous ranks.

Mike1975 wrote:
After reading the above I couldn't resist.

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=141426&p=2753464#p2753464

Well after seeing the way the other thread went, prepare to have yours locked. Before midnight it'll get locked.lol

Seems like they're still working on the rulebook (assuming that there is one paper book in the boxed set). So this means that when they're done finishing it then it'll have to be sent of to HG for approval adding yet another couple of weeks prior to actually printing it.

I let Jeff work at home (he’s creating the Robotech® RPG Tactics mecha color guide), and I’m happy my drive is only a few miles to the Palladium offices.

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=141892

Remind me again.. did they say 98% of the work was done or to be done? They were still working on the datacards, rulebook, and sculpts more than 6 months post kickstarter... what exactly was included in that 98% as I frankly can't find anything other than the box cover and dice that may be left. I hope that the supposed mega update isn't just a list of RPG books that they'll never actually publish but slated for this year and instead includes alot of info on Robotech.

Haha, Kevin fell over! Thanks Warboss!

'The Faithful' who believe that only the core box was 98% done might've been onto something.

Of course, that'd be another lie (at least, by omission) to be laid on the campaign's doorstep, as there is a rather massive difference between "we're almost ready to go" and "we're almost ready to go for the base box, but after we add another two dozen figures, tokens, bases and whatnot to the project, we're more like 20% done".

But hey, the murmur indicates "big news (tm)" coming soon!

However, all joking aside, odds of it actually being "big news (tm)" is admittedly pretty low.

Not that I dare say as much in the comments. That gakstorm finally settled down and they'd probably start sizing me up for a noose again if I did anything but politely ponder aloud without offending anyones delicate sensibilities. >.>

Edit: don't get me wrong. This isn't some "omg they are the dumb" snark behind anyone's back. Just saying. That swarm finally got settled. No point stirring it up over nothing, especially if we maybe might kinda have something to chat about.

Maybe.

Maaaaaybe.

 Forar wrote:
'The Faithful' who believe that only the core box was 98% done might've been onto something.

Considering that they were still tweaking the datacards for core box set stuff like Destroids and Regult squadrons over the past few months as well as tweaking and submitting sculpts for the same... and that they have been and possibly still are working on the rulebook... that still leaves the core box excluded. I know I'm preaching to the choir but that's a red herring that the updates since May simply don't support. Good or bad, I do hope there is alot of Robotech Tactics news in this supposedly epic update. I do agree that you might be better off staying away from the comments for a couple days as the fanbois have their Kevin S autographed panties in a bunch. I just keep telling myself that it's not massively delayed... yet.

What gets me is the statements that make me question earlier statements. Working on a color guide? Wouldn't that be part of the rules... that are done and approved? Huh.

3 updates in three days? Wow, showing... three bits. The add on bits to make pods arty pods. Already seen a Glaug Eldare at GenCon that looked way better. I know if this was the comments section I'd be hearing the guillotine blade rising already.

So if there's no Robotech info in the update tommorow or the KS update whenever... old smoke and mirrors is old.

Kendachi wrote:
What gets me is the statements that make me question earlier statements. Working on a color guide? Wouldn't that be part of the rules... that are done and approved? Huh.

3 updates in three days? Wow, showing... three bits. The add on bits to make pods arty pods. Already seen a Glaug Eldare at GenCon that looked way better. I know if this was the comments section I'd be hearing the guillotine blade rising already.

So if there's no Robotech info in the update tommorow or the KS update whenever... old smoke and mirrors is old.

No, painting guides would not be considered part of the rules, especially by someone who is not a mini gamer historically. Gotta keep things in perspective.


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Mike1975 wrote:
After reading the above I couldn't resist.

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=141426&p=2753464#p2753464

I almost feel insulted. Nobody responded to this post over at Palladium. I was being facetious but some of the stuff they ban is ridiculous.

Kendachi wrote:
3 updates in three days? Wow, showing... three bits. The add on bits to make pods arty pods. Already seen a Glaug Eldare at GenCon that looked way better.

Wayne from Palladium commented when I mentioned this as well. Apparently the difference is that instead of just being 3D printed entirely from the digital sculpt, it's made using pieces 3D printed from the sprue layout, so it more accurately represents what the final piece will look like after being built.

Which I guess is sensible. Not a huge thing, but it's a thing at least.

I believe the artillery pods may be the same deal.