Boston Marathon Bombing Discussion

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**Breotan**

DA's Forever wrote:
Ah alright so one still out, gotcha. Who was it they nabbed from that car then? Just being cautious? Or a third suspicious person?

No info about who was grabbed from the car or if that was even an accurate report.

**Kilkrazy**

Many Chechens are muslim so while their oppressor is Russia, perhaps there is a kind of confused anti-anti-muslim thing going on and resulted in an attack on "The Great Satan".

Ignoring the fact that the US is hardly Russia's best friend.

**DA's Forever**

Ah, Thanks Breotan, I had to step away as everything started jumping with that. wanted to get caught up

**Seaward**

DA's Forever wrote:
Ah alright so one still out, gotcha. Who was it they nabbed from that car then? Just being cautious? Or a third suspicious person?

They're taking down any car they see moving, as far as I can tell.

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Kilkrazy wrote:
Many Chechens are muslim so while their oppressor is Russia, perhaps there is a kind of confused anti-anti-muslim thing going on and resulted in an attack on "The Great Satan".

Ignoring the fact that the US is hardly Russia's best friend.

Nah.

I think they're pissed about Patriot's Day.

**DA's Forever**

Seaward wrote:
DA's Forever wrote:
Ah alright so one still out, gotcha. Who was it they nabbed from that car then? Just being cautious? Or a third suspicious person?

They're taking down any car they see moving, as far as I can tell.

Yeah they are, but they haven't been having everyone on the deck from them far as I can hear

**djones520**

Seaward wrote:
DA's Forever wrote:
Ah alright so one still out, gotcha. Who was it they nabbed from that car then? Just being cautious? Or a third suspicious person?

They're taking down any car they see moving, as far as I can tell.

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Kilkrazy wrote:
Many Chechens are muslim so while their oppressor is Russia, perhaps there is a kind of confused anti-anti-muslim thing going on and resulted in an attack on "The Great Satan".

Ignoring the fact that the US is hardly Russia's best friend.

Nah.

I think they're pissed about Patriot's Day.

Might have been a plot to throw authorities off their trail. Why they did it then is still a huge question mark.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Armed response just turned over a large building in Cambridge, after a woman found blood. Nothing there now and it looks like the apcs are moving on as they are loading back onto it.

Chechen brothers, apparently.

All public transport in the Boston area is shut down. City at a virtual standstill.

There is one left on the loose.

19 year old Zokar Zarnioff (sp) still out and about.

**Breotan**

They're saying White Hat guy ran over his brother trying to evade police. That's pretty hardcore there.

**Ratbarf**

Was his brother already dead?

**MeanGreenStompa**

Ratbarf wrote:
Was his brother already dead?

He died in hospital.

**Breotan**

At that point there's no telling, but given all the lead he was "injected with" I'd assume so. He was certainly DOA at the hospital.

**Seaward**

They might've found him.

Also, some twitpics from Bostonians this morning.

**DA's Forever**

They've been getting alot of reports of open-doors, might be them just being cautious on one of those reports? who knows at the moment.

**CptJake**

djones520 wrote:
Seaward wrote:
DA's Forever wrote:
Ah alright so one still out, gotcha. Who was it they nabbed from that car then? Just being cautious? Or a third suspicious person?

They're taking down any car they see moving, as far as I can tell.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Kilkrazy wrote:
Many Chechens are muslim so while their oppressor is Russia, perhaps there is a kind of confused anti-anti-muslim thing going on and resulted in an attack on "The Great Satan".

Ignoring the fact that the US is hardly Russia's best friend.

Nah.

I think they're pissed about Patriot's Day.

Might have been a plot to throw authorities off their trail. Why they did it then is still a huge question mark.

Not really, the target is the EXACT type of target AQ types are told to go for. Inspire, for example, has urged attacking sporting events and other similar gatherings.

**Breotan**

Didn't Chechens target a marathon in London some time back?

**Seaward**

NPR's reporting that a third man, described as an accomplice, is in custody. They're the only ones doing so as far as I can see.

**DA's Forever**

Might be another case of speed over facts we've been seeing displayed with everything in Boston. Mostly during the Marathon though. They've been doing pretty good tonight

**djones520**

Seaward wrote:
NPR's reporting that a third man, described as an accomplice, is in custody. They're the only ones doing so as far as I can see.

I'm not seeing anything on their website.

**DA's Forever**

Just had a report of "suicide vest, use extreme caution" over the radio. I hope this ends well

**Seaward**

djones520 wrote:
Seaward wrote:
NPR's reporting that a third man, described as an accomplice, is in custody. They're the only ones doing so as far as I can see.

I'm not seeing anything on their website.

Yeah, I think it's speed over accuracy. It was their WNYC affiliate, not NPR national.

**Wolf**

Damn, I wake up to yet another crazy string of events going on !

**DA's Forever**

Wolf wrote:
Damn, I wake up to yet another crazy string of events going on !

It has been a crazy week hasn't it?

**reds8n**

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/19/tamerlan_tsarnaev_dead_bombing_suspect_i_don_t_have_a_single_american_friend.html

Police have identified Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, as the "black hat" bombing suspect, killed during the manhunt that followed. Readers have pointed out that Johannes Hirn made Tsarnaev the subject of a photo essay, "Will Box for Passport," taken before the boxer competed at National Golden Gloves competition in Salt Lake City. The captions give us a micro-profile of the suspect.

Tamerlan, who studies at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and wants to become an engineer, took the semester off from school to train for the competition.
Tamerlan fled Chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early 90s, and lived for years in Kazakhstan before getting to the United States as a refugee.
Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."
If he wins enough fights... Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia.
Tamerlan says he doesn't drink or smoke anymore: "God said no alcohol." A muslim, he says: "There are no values anymore," and worries that "people can't control themselves."
This YouTube account may be Tsarnaev's.
UPDATE: Justin Hart located Tamerlan's Amazon wishlist. Among the hits:

- How to Make Driver's Licenses and Other ID on Your Home Computer
- The I.D. Forger: Homemade Birth Certificates & Other Documents Explained
- Secrets Of A Back Alley ID Man: Fake Id Construction Techniques Of The Underground
- The Lone Wolf And the Bear: Three Centuries of Chechen Defiance of Russian Rule
- Organized Crime: AN INSIDE GUIDE TO THE WORLD'S MOST SUCCESSFUL INDUSTRY
And, of course...

- How to Win Friends & Influence People

**Frazzled**

Thats awesome. He comes here as a refugee and this is how he repays us.

**DA's Forever**

Sounds like they might be tightening in on him. No confirmation, but they are tightening the noose on a house with open doors. Bringing SWAT in on a few "suspicious" houses

Also got Media running around in the zone apparently from the scanner

**reds8n**

If that is him of course.

... although one would imagine a name like that isn't common in the area ?

That almost seems a bit too neat or easy of a find, you'd think that if you were going to dig up info like the above you wouldn't do it in your real name maybe ?

Course looks like we're not exactly dealing with a genius here so ...

**DA's Forever**

EOD is having a crazy crazy day, reports of a rocket in a basement and a request for EOD to respond.

**Ahtman**

I have a friend at MIT and contacted them to make sure they were ok (they were) but they said things, and I quote, 'are crazy at the moment up here'. I imagine that is an understatement.

**KalashnikovMarine**

The Uncle of the two brothers gave an interview, wish I had vid, this was a passionate and angry man, I'd be more scared of him that a SWAT team.

There as a small briefing with the uncle of the two bombing suspects. In it he wished condolences to the victims and victims families. He stated that he had not been in touch with his brother’s family in at least three months and that there was never any indication of hatred or ill will towards the US.

He stated that the reason behind the attack was that they were losers who were not able to settle themselves and harbored hatred towards those who could.

He also stated that they are of the muslim faith but that anything stating that this had to do with religion is fake.

“Someone radicalized them.”

He has stated that his family has nothing to do with that family, that the boys immigrated in 2003 and that they had never been in Chechnya . He also said that if he had known of their involvement he would have been the first person to turn them in, but had not seen the photos released by the FBI.

He claims that they brought shame to the family and to the entire Chechnyan ethnicity.

He closed with encouraging Dzhokar to turn himself in, and asked that the media respect his property and family.

So far my favorite theory from the tinfoil hat brigade is that this is a false flag operation initiated by Putin to unite the U.S. and Russia in common hatred of Jihadis.

**Grey Templar**

Indeed, he gave them a good tongue lashing.