Boston Marathon Bombing Discussion

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**KalashnikovMarine**

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/us-usa-explosions-suspect-site-idUSBRE93I0JL20130419

(Reuters) - Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev posted links to Islamic websites and others calling for Chechen independence on what appears to be his page on a Russian language social networking site.

Abusive comments in Russian and English were flooding onto Tsarnaev's page on VK, a Russian-language social media site, on Friday after he was identified as a suspect in the bombing of the Boston marathon.

Police launched a massive manhunt for Tsarnaev, 19, after killing his older brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a shootout overnight.

On the site, the younger Tsarnaev identifies himself as a 2011 graduate of Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, a public school in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

It says he went to primary school in Makhachkala, capital of Dagestan, a province in Russia that borders Chechnya, and lists his languages as English, Russian and Chechen.

His "World view" is listed as "Islam" and his "Personal priority" is "career and money".

He has posted links to videos of fighters in the Syrian civil war and to Islamic web pages with titles like "Salamworld, my religion is Islam" and "There is no God but Allah, let that ring out in our hearts".

He also has links to pages calling for independence for Chechnya, a region of Russia that lost its bid for secession after two wars in the 1990s.

The page also reveals a sense of humor, around his identity as a member of a minority from southern Russia's restive Caucasus, which includes Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia and other predominately Muslim regions that have seen two decades of unrest since the fall of the Soviet Union.

**d-usa**

Is it possibly time to merge the two threads at this point?

**KalashnikovMarine**

Seems like it might be... I was going to PM someone at some point...

**BaronIveagh**

Reds8n has locked the other thread and order us all here to this one. I guess. He didn't say 'WHich' thread we're to go to, but that our thread on it was too long and we needed a shorter one.

Which is sort of backwards compared to... well, most moderation on this board, let alone other boards. Typically it's the longer thread that has been running for a while stays open and the shorter, newer, one gets shut down.

**Grey Templar**

This one is more recent to whats happening right now.

**Frazzled**

Grey Templar wrote:
Indeed, he gave them a good tongue lashing.

I caught a good part of it. The uncle was like the rabid pro america character from a black and white movie. He'd definitely get on the AMERIKA HURR!!! bandwagon. Excellent.

**BaronIveagh**

Yeah, but it's not like they're separate events. It's like having a thread on a gun being fired, and then another one on someone being hit by a bullet.

And, personally, I still think that there are some very big pieces of the picture missing. There's still nothing remotely resembling a motive.

**kronk**

CNN has a summary of last nights events in this article.

BaronIveagh wrote:
There's still nothing remotely resembling a motive.

I'm very interested in the "Why?", that's for sure.

**CptJake**

BaronIveagh wrote:
Yeah, but it's not like they're separate events. It's like having a thread on a gun being fired, and then another one on someone being hit by a bullet.

And, personally, I still think that there are some very big pieces of the picture missing. There's still nothing remotely resembling a motive.

Plenty of motive. One of the guys YouTube channels was stacked with jihadist crap. Other Islamist indicators as well.

**BaronIveagh**

CptJake wrote:

Plenty of motive. One of the guys YouTube channels was stacked with jihadist crap. Other Islamist indicators as well.

No credible source has reported that yet. Mother Jones even states that it's questionable at best atm. Much like the 'twitter feed' from the bombers tweeting as they evade capture.

Facts people, facts.

Edit: Oh for feths sake. Now the politicians are oozing out of the other slime to blame immigrants and Muslims. Every time one of these asshats opens their mouths, I want to post a youtube version of it, dubbed over in German and blue screened against footage of the Nuremberg rallies.

**Grey Templar**

CptJake wrote:
BaronIveagh wrote:
Yeah, but it's not like they're separate events. It's like having a thread on a gun being fired, and then another one on someone being hit by a bullet.

And, personally, I still think that there are some very big pieces of the picture missing. There's still nothing remotely resembling a motive.

Plenty of motive. One of the guys YouTube channels was stacked with jihadist crap. Other Islamist indicators as well.

Well, we arn't 100% sure its their Youtube channel. But its definitly strong circumstantial evidence.

**BaronIveagh**

Grey Templar wrote:

Well, we arn't 100% sure its their Youtube channel. But its definitly strong circumstantial evidence.

It's not even close to evidence. I can put any name I like on a youtube account and select a playlist. It doesn't make me the Boston Bomber. So far mainstream news seems to be looking at it as a hoax, and even some of the more far right ones are putting disclaimers on it.

**kronk**

Note to self: Clear out incriminating youtube channel entries!

**Grey Templar**

What are the chances of a Youtube account existing with the same name as the suspect that has radical islamic material on it when the suspect in question fits the profile of a radical islamic extremist?

Not sayings its a sure thing, but it is definitly highly unlikely to be a coincidence.

**whembly**

kronk wrote:
Note to self: Clear out incriminating youtube channel entries!

What's wrong with youtubes of hot chicks with boobah?

**Grey Templar**

whembly wrote:
kronk wrote:
Note to self: Clear out incriminating youtube channel entries!

What's wrong with youtubes of hot chicks with boobah?

I think he means the ones involving goats and spandex.

**Lone Cat**

News said the suspects are Chechens. and 'involved with the Boston Marathon blasts'.
yet the motivations remain unknown.

**Breotan**

Grey Templar wrote:
whembly wrote:
kronk wrote:
Note to self: Clear out incriminating youtube channel entries!

What's wrong with youtubes of hot chicks with boobah?
I think he means the ones involving goats and spandex.

Yea, dressing a goat in spandex is pretty weird.

Lone Cat wrote:
News said the suspects are Chechens. and 'involved with the Boston Marathon blasts'.
yet the motivations remain unknown.

Need to read this thread, Lone Cat. We're way ahead of wherever you're getting news from.

**kronk**

Grey Templar wrote:
whembly wrote:
kronk wrote:
Note to self: Clear out incriminating youtube channel entries!

What's wrong with youtubes of hot chicks with boobah?

I think he means the ones involving goats and spandex.

Goats and Spandex? Hell, I uploaded 2 those last week. No problem.

But yeah, LOTS of chicks with boobah vids...

On Topic:

The Ghost Town pictures of Boston are freaking eerie.

Edit: I wonder how many concussions, if any, the older brother suffered in his brief boxing career?

**Dreadclaw69**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Now there's live coverage from the local news affiliates.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/

Watching this now, looks like a family member is being interviewed and she's claiming its a conspiracy and wants evidence but not from any agency

**darkPrince010**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Now there's live coverage from the local news affiliates.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/

Watching this now, looks like a family member is being interviewed and she's claiming its a conspiracy and wants evidence but not from any agency

See, the initial lack of motivation was weird, but if the suspects were returning fire with police and lobbing bombs at them, it kinda implicates them as bombmakers.

However, the amazon wishlist and youtube channel do seem overly convenient, and makes me wonder if someone has renamed an older version to the list/channel in question to get hits and attention.

**kronk**

darkPrince010 wrote:

See, the initial lack of motivation was weird, but if the suspects were returning fire with police and lobbing bombs at them, it kinda implicates them as bombmakers.

Yeah, innocent people don't simply walk around with homemade bombs, rob SUVs, and shoot at cops.

Doesn't make them the bombers, but it doesn't make them Nobel Peace Prize candidates, either.

**Breotan**

darkPrince010 wrote:
However, the amazon wishlist and youtube channel do seem overly convenient, and makes me wonder if someone has renamed an older version to the list/channel in question to get hits and attention.

Or people trolling be setting up bogus lists/channels because they think it's funny or to get a little attention.

**skyfi**

Nobody commented on the fact that Dunkin Donuts is still open?

or did I just miss it?

**darkPrince010**

Breotan wrote:
darkPrince010 wrote:
However, the amazon wishlist and youtube channel do seem overly convenient, and makes me wonder if someone has renamed an older version to the list/channel in question to get hits and attention.
Or people trolling be setting up bogus lists/channels because they think it's funny or to get a little attention.

Maybe.

I haven't seen the list so I'm not going to say one way or another, but if the wishlist tracks when you add something to it or when you liked a video on your youtube channel, then it would be really obvious it was a fake as everything would have been liked or added within the span of only the last few days.

However, if the person were to already have a channel or wishlist sitting, and there was no evidence of a name change listed within easy access, then I think renaming an existing "Look at how terrorist-y <Insert Name Here> is" is much more plausible, possibly set up by someone hoping to garner attention off of the latest homicidal nutjob.

**Frazzled**

kronk wrote:
Note to self: Clear out incriminating youtube channel entries!

Well there go "sexy automechanic gals XXI" that I was working on.

**ProtoClone**

Woke up this morning to the news of a little town near my hometown having two bombs go off at the middle school. WTF people!

http://www.wwmt.com/shared/news/features/top-stories/stories/wwmt_breaking-news-homemade-device-explodes-outside-middle-school-9387.shtml

**djones520**

ProtoClone wrote:
Woke up this morning to the news of a little town near my hometown having two bombs go off at the middle school. WTF people!

http://www.wwmt.com/shared/news/features/top-stories/stories/wwmt_breaking-news-homemade-device-explodes-outside-middle-school-9387.shtml

We had a threat in the local area a couple days as well. Troubled kids, see the media attention, decide they want some of their own.

**whembly**

djones520 wrote:
ProtoClone wrote:
Woke up this morning to the news of a little town near my hometown having two bombs go off at the middle school. WTF people!

http://www.wwmt.com/shared/news/features/top-stories/stories/wwmt_breaking-news-homemade-device-explodes-outside-middle-school-9387.shtml

We had a threat in the local area a couple days as well. Troubled kids, see the media attention, decide they want some of their own.

Yup... copy cats.

**BaronIveagh**

kronk wrote:

Yeah, innocent people don't simply walk around with homemade bombs, rob SUVs, and shoot at cops.

Depends on where you live. Personally, even if innocent of the bombing, if I had my face plastered over the national news as a bomber and mass murderer, I'd have done all those things trying to escape too.