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https://twitter.com/NateBell4AR/status/325238796079747072


Wow, classy.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Yeah, innocent people don't simply walk around with homemade bombs, rob SUVs, and shoot at cops.

Depends on where you live. Personally, even if innocent of the bombing, if I had my face plastered over the national news as a bomber and mass murderer, I'd have done all those things trying to escape too.

I'm going to assume your being sarcastic here...

Because you could just do like that teen did and walk to the local police station and clear your name.

 Soladrin wrote:
https://twitter.com/NateBell4AR/status/325238796079747072


Wow, classy.

What a jerk.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Yeah, innocent people don't simply walk around with homemade bombs, rob SUVs, and shoot at cops.

Depends on where you live. Personally, even if innocent of the bombing, if I had my face plastered over the national news as a bomber and mass murderer, I'd have done all those things trying to escape too.

Sanity would not be your strong suit then. Your average innocent person doesn't then kill a school rent a cop and engage in a running gun battle, especially when not charged with anything.

I would think that feeling the need to rob a convenience store might be a strike against the idea that they are supported by any international organization.

 Frazzled wrote:

Sanity would not be your strong suit then. Your average innocent person doesn't then kill a school rent a cop and engage in a running gun battle, especially when not charged with anything.

As I posted before, I wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. I've seen how New York cops can get in this situation, and if police culture is anything like that in Mass, bluntly, their only chance of being taken alive is to reach another state and turn themselves in to the police someplace else. NYSP had such a hard on for Bucky Phillips that they murdered innocent people in the search for him. (And despite the crime lab findings, the officers who were involved were not even suspended. The 'Blue Wall' came down and all the police recordings for that specific time period were erased).

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Sanity would not be your strong suit then. Your average innocent person doesn't then kill a school rent a cop and engage in a running gun battle, especially when not charged with anything.

As I posted before, I wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. I've seen how New York cops can get in this situation, and if police culture is anything like that in Mass, bluntly, their only chance of being taken alive is to reach another state and turn themselves in to the police someplace else.

It's a miracle that other kid that turned himself in is still alive!

 d-usa wrote:
I would think that feeling the need to rob a convenience store might be a strike against the idea that they are supported by any international organization.

Hey AlQaeda needs chicklets too!

 d-usa wrote:

It's a miracle that other kid that turned himself in is still alive!

I love it when they strip them naked and interrogate them, only to find they have the wrong guy.

 Soladrin wrote:
https://twitter.com/NateBell4AR/status/325238796079747072


Wow, classy.

Indeed, listen to them crow now they've all breathed a collective sigh of relief it wasn't one of theirs...

So now they are willing harm to the people of Boston for the crime of being Americans who don't share their ideal.

fethers. fethers and cowards.

 d-usa wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Sanity would not be your strong suit then. Your average innocent person doesn't then kill a school rent a cop and engage in a running gun battle, especially when not charged with anything.

As I posted before, I wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. I've seen how New York cops can get in this situation, and if police culture is anything like that in Mass, bluntly, their only chance of being taken alive is to reach another state and turn themselves in to the police someplace else.

It's a miracle that other kid that turned himself in is still alive!

Indeed, after running the gauntlet of murdering police, he came through remarkably unscathed.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
https://twitter.com/NateBell4AR/status/325238796079747072


Wow, classy.

Indeed, listen to them crow now they've all breathed a collective sigh of relief it wasn't one of theirs...

So now they are willing harm to the people of Boston for the crime of being Americans who don't share their ideal.

fethers. fethers and cowards.

It's one guy.

Just updated that the older brother (The deceased one) had a child.

More and more I'm wondering if the father's statement earlier was true, something to the effect of "If the police kill my other son without arresting him and revealing the truth, then I am convinced that they framed them." I understand a gun battle isn't the best way to declare innocence, but it seems very hard to find a solid motive outside of the incredibly-convenient amazon wishlist and youtube channel.

 djones520 wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
https://twitter.com/NateBell4AR/status/325238796079747072


Wow, classy.

Indeed, listen to them crow now they've all breathed a collective sigh of relief it wasn't one of theirs...

So now they are willing harm to the people of Boston for the crime of being Americans who don't share their ideal.

fethers. fethers and cowards.

It's one guy.

Read the comments from his supporters.

 darkPrince010 wrote:
Just updated that the older brother (The deceased one) had a child.

More and more I'm wondering if the father's statement earlier was true, something to the effect of "If the police kill my other son without arresting him and revealing the truth, then I am convinced that they framed them." I understand a gun battle isn't the best way to declare innocence, but it seems very hard to find a solid motive outside of the incredibly-convenient amazon wishlist and youtube channel.

The large supply of pipe bombs that they had throw all over the town?

You don't just whip those up in a few hours when your picture gets plastered all over the TV.

These are the guys.

 Frazzled wrote:

Indeed, after running the gauntlet of murdering police, he came through remarkably unscathed.

Yeah, so did Bucky. He only had to escape over the boarder to PA and turn himself in there to cops that didn't recognize him.

Oh, and Frazz, btw: let me guess, you think that everyone who turns up dead in a prison cell hangs themselves or was stabbed by another inmate? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm looking to sell.

 djones520 wrote:

The large supply of pipe bombs that they had throw all over the town?

You don't just whip those up in a few hours when your picture gets plastered all over the TV.

These are the guys.

Depends. Black powder based ones can be made in a few min each. And we have no idea how many (if any) they had. So far we have very little factual information.

 darkPrince010 wrote:
Just updated that the older brother (The deceased one) had a child.

More and more I'm wondering if the father's statement earlier was true, something to the effect of "If the police kill my other son without arresting him and revealing the truth, then I am convinced that they framed them." I understand a gun battle isn't the best way to declare innocence, but it seems very hard to find a solid motive outside of the incredibly-convenient amazon wishlist and youtube channel.

Yeah, as I said in the other thread,this thing stinks to high heaven. There's some key item here we are not seeing.

So, huh, why would chechen separatists bomb Boston?

But why would an innocent person who's face is mistakenly put on TV get armed, make a bunch of bombs, and then have a shootout with the police?

Sure, maybe they'd run and hide but it seems highly unlikely they would do anything to incriminate themselves and basically admit to the world they're the guys. You'd have to be insane to do something so illogical.

So are there any updates on the man hunt ? I haven't had muc htime to go searching for updates or anything as I've been doing university work,

So anything to report ?

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Indeed, after running the gauntlet of murdering police, he came through remarkably unscathed.

Yeah, so did Bucky. He only had to escape over the boarder to PA and turn himself in there to cops that didn't recognize him.

Oh, and Frazz, btw: let me guess, you think that everyone who turns up dead in a prison cell hangs themselves or was stabbed by another inmate? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm looking to sell.

 djones520 wrote:

The large supply of pipe bombs that they had throw all over the town?

You don't just whip those up in a few hours when your picture gets plastered all over the TV.

These are the guys.

Depends. Black powder based ones can be made in a few min each. And we have no idea how many (if any) they had. So far we have very little factual information.

Oh crap, they think I'm the guy who made bombs. Let me make some bombs in case they come for me!

I am a firm believer in "don't talk to the cops without a lawyer". But even I think that "let me kill all the cops so that I can prove I am not a killer" argument is pretty stupid.

 Wolf wrote:
So are there any updates on the man hunt ? I haven't had muc htime to go searching for updates or anything as I've been doing university work,

So anything to report ?

Nothing really, the authorities being quite mum about the whole thing.

Yeah, grasping for straws in an understatement with such a line of thinking.

 Grey Templar wrote:
But why would an innocent person who's face is mistakenly put on TV get armed, make a bunch of bombs, and then have a shootout with the police?

Sure, maybe they'd run and hide but it seems highly unlikely they would do anything to incriminate themselves and basically admit to the world they're the guys. You'd have to be insane to do something so illogical.

I think the joke on one their supposed social media accounts spelled it out:

"A car goes by with a Chechen, a Dagestani and an Ingush inside. Question: who is driving?"

"the police."

You have two people who have (good) reason to be suspicious of cops declared public enemy number 1. If you think you have no chance of surrender, what do you do?

You're all thinking like Americans. Think like someone who comes from a country where the police are more likely to shoot you in the head than arrest you. Because even though they came here a long time ago, that world view is pretty ingrained, because the people that don't think like that get shot.

It doesn't take long for the tinfoil hats to come out, does it?

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
But why would an innocent person who's face is mistakenly put on TV get armed, make a bunch of bombs, and then have a shootout with the police?

Sure, maybe they'd run and hide but it seems highly unlikely they would do anything to incriminate themselves and basically admit to the world they're the guys. You'd have to be insane to do something so illogical.

I think the joke on one their supposed social media accounts spelled it out:

"A car goes by with a Chechen, a Dagestani and an Ingush inside. Question: who is driving?"

"the police."

You have two people who have (good) reason to be suspicious of cops declared public enemy number 1. If you think you have no chance of surrender, what do you do?

You're all thinking like Americans. Think like someone who comes from a country where the police are more likely to shoot you in the head than arrest you. Because even though they came here a long time ago, that world view is pretty ingrained, because the people that don't think like that get shot.

Because if you think the police "might" shoot you, the best thing to do is to give them every reason to fill you with bullets?

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
But why would an innocent person who's face is mistakenly put on TV get armed, make a bunch of bombs, and then have a shootout with the police?

Sure, maybe they'd run and hide but it seems highly unlikely they would do anything to incriminate themselves and basically admit to the world they're the guys. You'd have to be insane to do something so illogical.

I think the joke on one their supposed social media accounts spelled it out:

"A car goes by with a Chechen, a Dagestani and an Ingush inside. Question: who is driving?"

"the police."

You have two people who have (good) reason to be suspicious of cops declared public enemy number 1. If you think you have no chance of surrender, what do you do?

You're all thinking like Americans. Think like someone who comes from a country where the police are more likely to shoot you in the head than arrest you. Because even though they came here a long time ago, that world view is pretty ingrained, because the people that don't think like that get shot.

Baron.... are you joking? 'cuz my sarcas-o-meter is broken... ?

 d-usa wrote:

Because if you think the police "might" shoot you, the best thing to do is to give them every reason to fill you with bullets?

No, the best solution is to run like hell, but if you are engaged by the police, it's you or them, by that way of thinking.

 whembly wrote:

Baron.... are you joking? 'cuz my sarcas-o-meter is broken... ?

Sadly, no. This is what these guys are thinking right now. The police are going to shoot them out of hand. They're going to do every thing they can to prevent that, including lethal force. As far as the school cop goes, we don't know what happened that led to that. But I can say that they're not trained guys. They're not experts in escape and evade, so they're going to go the brute force path. Until they feel safe, every cop that they see is a target.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
So, huh, why would chechen separatists bomb Boston?

I think they really really hated Boston baked beans.

What too soon?

Oh, and Frazz, btw: let me guess, you think that everyone who turns up dead in a prison cell hangs themselves or was stabbed by another inmate? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm looking to sell.

-I'm the guy who thinks criminals should be thrown into pits with robot killer klowns for my amusement, not sent to prison. I have given no thought or concern at all about that question.

If one is concerned about such a thing they could have gone to any attorney to have them negotiate a surrender, or any news organization. There are a number of ways to surrender to the authorities under scrutiny; believing a running gun battle with explosives is the only way to go is pure insanity.

 d-usa wrote:

Oh crap, they think I'm the guy who made bombs. Let me make some bombs in case they come for me!

I am a firm believer in "don't talk to the cops without a lawyer". But even I think that "let me kill all the cops so that I can prove I am not a killer" argument is pretty stupid.

Agreed. I have no love for the popo, but seriously?