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 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
I just heard the BPD talking about how they need to shut that scanner down since it's on the internet.. I dunno when they'll do that.

They seem to have someone surrounded in a boat - they're talking as if its the suspect.

~Tim?

Might be a sensible idea. Its kind of hard to get the drop on someone when you're broadcasting your plans.

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
I just heard the BPD talking about how they need to shut that scanner down since it's on the internet.. I dunno when they'll do that.

They seem to have someone surrounded in a boat - they're talking as if its the suspect.

~Tim?

Might be a sensible idea. Its kind of hard to get the drop on someone when you're broadcasting your plans.


More then likely the FBI will just fully rotate in and take complete control of the area thus reducing the need for anything of value to on the BPD radio


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They got him in custody!

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Beast Coast

May God have mercy on his soul.

   
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Everett, WA

Stupid ninjas.

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 djones520 wrote:
They got him in custody!


Well done LEOs!! Now lets get him in front of a judge.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
They got him in custody!


Well done LEOs!! Now lets get him in front of a judge.


if by judge you mean on a plane to gitmo


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Everett, WA

Is he a citizen? I know his brother was but hadn't heard anything about his status.


 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
Is he a citizen? I know his brother was but hadn't heard anything about his status.



They said on Fox that he became a citizen last year. On 9/11 no less.

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 Breotan wrote:
Is he a citizen? I know his brother was but hadn't heard anything about his status.



if the government classifies him as a terrorist then the patriot act kicks him and his civil liberties can be "bent"


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 ironicsilence wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
They got him in custody!


Well done LEOs!! Now lets get him in front of a judge.


if by judge you mean on a plane to gitmo



That seems pretty unlikely. He's not an enemy combatant. Weren't the majority of Gitmo detainees picked up in foreign countries?


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 ironicsilence wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
Is he a citizen? I know his brother was but hadn't heard anything about his status.



if the government classifies him as a terrorist then the patriot act kicks him and his civil liberties can be "bent"



I doubt they'll send him to Gitmo to be forgotten. They'll likely want to make a public example of him.

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Well I'm glad they've got him ! And that he will answer for his crimes

   
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 ironicsilence wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
They got him in custody!


Well done LEOs!! Now lets get him in front of a judge.


if by judge you mean on a plane to gitmo

Because disappearing someone behind a public attack on the US is so much more likely than making an example of them in court...

 
   
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 ironicsilence wrote:
if by judge you mean on a plane to gitmo

Nope, I mean a judge. Lets not give him ammunition for the Court by claiming that he was tortured or treated inhumanely. Let him have his day in Court with all the evidence before him so any cries of victimhood will pale by comparison to the evil that he wrought on innocent people.

If he was determined not to be a martyr why make one of him?

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They got the little fether.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 ironicsilence wrote:
if by judge you mean on a plane to gitmo

Nope, I mean a judge. Lets not give him ammunition for the Court by claiming that he was tortured or treated inhumanely. Let him have his day in Court with all the evidence before him so any cries of victimhood will pale by comparison to the evil that he wrought on innocent people.

If he was determined not to be a martyr why make one of him?


while Mass doesnt have the death penalty, domestic terrorism is a capital offense so if Martyrdom is what he wants then send him to death. I'm not interested in my tax dollars paying for his housing and 3 meals a day for the next 70 years


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 djones520 wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
Is he a citizen? I know his brother was but hadn't heard anything about his status.
They said on Fox that he became a citizen last year. On 9/11 no less.
Yea, I thought that was his brother though.


 
   
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 Wolf wrote:
Well I'm glad they've got him ! And that he will answer for his crimes


Assuming he committed any other than fleeing the scene.

The only evidence I've heard so far is very very shaky. If the Gov decides they don't have enough proof to get a conviction, expect him to vanish into Gitmo






And shame on those already judging. Have none of you yet learned the lessons of trying people in the press rather than a court of law? Does the name Richard Jewel not ring any bells?

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 ironicsilence wrote:
while Mass doesnt have the death penalty, domestic terrorism is a capital offense so if Martyrdom is what he wants then send him to death. I'm not interested in my tax dollars paying for his housing and 3 meals a day for the next 70 years

Martyr was probably a poor choice of words on my part - I meant that he should not become a posterboy and cause celebre for people campaigning against Gitmo and thus distracting from his alleged crimes. His aunt is already crying conspiracy, so why make it look like we have to hide him and what he has to say away.

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

Martyr was probably a poor choice of words on my part - I meant that he should not become a posterboy and cause celebre for people campaigning against Gitmo and thus distracting from his alleged crimes. His aunt is already crying conspiracy, so why make it look like we have to hide him and what he has to say away.


That and the Gov has been trying to avoid any more 'American Taliban' cases that might undermine their ability to simply revoke your right to a trial etc whenever they want.


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 ironicsilence wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 ironicsilence wrote:
if by judge you mean on a plane to gitmo

Nope, I mean a judge. Lets not give him ammunition for the Court by claiming that he was tortured or treated inhumanely. Let him have his day in Court with all the evidence before him so any cries of victimhood will pale by comparison to the evil that he wrought on innocent people.

If he was determined not to be a martyr why make one of him?


while Mass doesnt have the death penalty, domestic terrorism is a capital offense so if Martyrdom is what he wants then send him to death. I'm not interested in my tax dollars paying for his housing and 3 meals a day for the next 70 years


If they charge him under federal clauses then Mass laws won't really matter.
   
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 d-usa wrote:

If they charge him under federal clauses then Mass laws won't really matter.


Depends on what they can actually prove. So far the best they have is a lot of accessory and conspiracy to commit, particularly if he blames his dead brother. Unless we can put a bomb in his hand, that really all we have based on what the police have revealed.

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 d-usa wrote:
Who was carrying the backpack in the picture?


Both of them.

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Well, so much for a trial by Jury. The suspect will not be given Miranda.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/no-miranda-rights-for-now-for-bombing-suspect-90362.html?hp=f1

I guess that gov feels it has a weak case then. We'll go directly to military interrogations.


A joint FBI/CIA interrogation unit that President Barack Obama established to handle terrorism cases has been activated and is on the scene, the DOJ official added. “The high value detained interrogation group is on site,” the official said.



Let the hypocrisy begin.

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 BaronIveagh wrote:
Well, so much for a trial by Jury. The suspect will not be given Miranda.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/no-miranda-rights-for-now-for-bombing-suspect-90362.html?hp=f1

I guess that gov feels it has a weak case then. We'll go directly to military interrogations.


thats odd since an official on the scene confirmed the FBI give him the miranda rights when they arrested him...guess its opposite day


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Well, big screw-up in my opinion.
   
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I guess the DOJ > FBI when it comes to decided on miranda rights


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 ironicsilence wrote:

thats odd since an official on the scene confirmed the FBI give him the miranda rights when they arrested him...guess its opposite day


Just because the officer reads you your rights doesn't mean you really have them, apparently.


The level of stink on this just reached 'High Heaven'.


It's easy, isn't it?

*sigh* Once upon a time, kids, Uncle Baron sat down and talked to a VERY bad man, who told him how easy it is to take away people's rights in the interest of things like 'National Security' and 'Public Safety'. After all, they were dangerous agents of a ruthless power that threatened the homeland's prosperity and shouldn't have rights under the law and should be placed in camps without trials.

He started off the conversation with two words. 'Heil Hitler'.

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