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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 20:30:33
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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I found this excellent interview with the man himself, co creator of GW, Ian Livingstone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00xrrv7
I figured it would be of interest to many people on dakka, and It also made me think, just how popular were the books?
I think I read my first one aged about 8, and I soon fell into the hobby after that, how many of you started on them, and can you remember what your first book was?
I think I started with Forest of Doom, and my favourite was a really complicated one where you could purchase mercenaries and make a small army, though the name escapes me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 20:37:18
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I think almost everyone is familiar with these books. My favourites where Citadel of Chaos and House of Hell.
Coincidentally I found this blog today which details several books.
http://turnto400.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 20:59:46
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Thats a great find, I can still remember many of those drawings, I never did get into that Mad Max kinda thing though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 21:56:10
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I didn't really get on with any of the spaceship adventures. The Freeway Fighter one is a bit dull from what I recall. I liked that House of Hell was contemporary, or near enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 22:09:58
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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City of thieves was my favourite  . House of hell was the worst for me, the futuristic stuff I didn't mind however thourghly loved anything fanatsy based!
The first was the underwater advenure one, the name escapes me just now back around 1987 when I was 9
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 23:39:08
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I still have a dozen or so of the Fighting Fantasy books. Always loved Robot Commando.
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Apologies for talking positively about games I enjoy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/20 23:48:54
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Over here it seemed to be more "Choose Your Own Adventure" and "Endless Quest" IIRC. The Fighting Fantasy line didnt have near the impact as those did...granted, FF was much more gamelike with the options, while CYOA and EQ were more binary in nature.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/21 00:39:13
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I struggled with Appointment with F.E.A.R, if you don't get to fight one guy midbook you lose the last fight, but loved robot commando when you got to swap out into differing mecha.
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far too many points and still painting...
74th @ Caledonian Uprising 2011
104th @ Caledonian Uprising 2014 (and STILL best General in Pure Codex:IG) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/21 07:21:09
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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I don't think that statement holds true in the US. I never saw Fighting Fantasy books here. The closest we had were Lone Wolf and Way of the Tiger (which was awesome beyond reckoning).
If you have seen Fighting Fantasy books in the US, turn to 55.
If you have not, you must read Way of the Tiger. Turn to 411.
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A ninja of the Way of the Scorpion poisons you with spiderfish venom. As the life fades from your body, you feel him search your clothes for the Scrolls of Kettsuin. You have failed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/21 07:48:41
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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[notprop reads 411 doesn't like whats he sees and cheats turning to 55 and living to fight another day]
There. I think I captured my experience with those books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/21 11:03:46
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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1st Lieutenant
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Did anyone else have the advanced fighting fantasy books
Dungeoneer? Blacksand? Think those were a couple of tgem
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/21 12:30:02
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Reaver83 wrote:Did anyone else have the advanced fighting fantasy books
Dungeoneer? Blacksand? Think those were a couple of tgem
I had the set, Dungeoneer, Port Blacksand, and the source books Out of the Pit and Titan. I did many games from them, very basic roleplaying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 07:32:20
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Warlock of Firetop Mountain. Happy days...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 08:07:47
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I played? read? Island of the Undead, and I think it was called Crypt of the Sorceror. Both years before wargaming though. It wasn't until after I'd delved into WHFB that I noticed Ian Livingstone's name crop up again.
Edit: Should note that like the Americans have already mentioned, Fighting Fantasy was never that big over here in NZ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 08:26:44
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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any excuse for a repost
http://mightygodking.com/2008/06/23/bad-habits/ language warning on some of them !
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 08:53:04
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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That was excellent red cheers for that.
I remember most of the covers, I remember looking at them as a kid and thinking "who the feth comes up with this stuff?!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/22 12:01:47
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/04/22 12:03:21
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/25 14:22:38
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 06:16:29
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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According to the latest WD, FF made Ian and Steve into millionaires and directly led to them selling out of GW.
R.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 08:22:00
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Bloodtracker
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mattyrm wrote:I found this excellent interview with the man himself, co creator of GW, Ian Livingstone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00xrrv7
I figured it would be of interest to many people on dakka, and It also made me think, just how popular were the books?
I think I read my first one aged about 8, and I soon fell into the hobby after that, how many of you started on them, and can you remember what your first book was?
I think I started with Forest of Doom, and my favourite was a really complicated one where you could purchase mercenaries and make a small army, though the name escapes me.
I'm old so yes I started with gaming books.. there were alot of them.. I had about 50 of them, they were really fun. Lone Wolf series was one of my favorit once published in the 80s... I'm guessing the steve Jacksson and Ian livingstone books came before that... so that was before my time... Automatically Appended Next Post: BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I don't think that statement holds true in the US. I never saw Fighting Fantasy books here. The closest we had were Lone Wolf and Way of the Tiger (which was awesome beyond reckoning).
If you have seen Fighting Fantasy books in the US, turn to 55.
If you have not, you must read Way of the Tiger. Turn to 411.
411
A ninja of the Way of the Scorpion poisons you with spiderfish venom. As the life fades from your body, you feel him search your clothes for the Scrolls of Kettsuin. You have failed.
Way of the Tiger was really good yes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 08:33:47
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Nucflash wrote: mattyrm wrote:I found this excellent interview with the man himself, co creator of GW, Ian Livingstone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00xrrv7
I figured it would be of interest to many people on dakka, and It also made me think, just how popular were the books?
I think I read my first one aged about 8, and I soon fell into the hobby after that, how many of you started on them, and can you remember what your first book was?
I think I started with Forest of Doom, and my favourite was a really complicated one where you could purchase mercenaries and make a small army, though the name escapes me.
I'm old so yes I started with gaming books.. there were alot of them.. I had about 50 of them, they were really fun. Lone Wolf series was one of my favorit once published in the 80s... I'm guessing the steve Jacksson and Ian livingstone books came before that... so that was before my time...
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I don't think that statement holds true in the US. I never saw Fighting Fantasy books here. The closest we had were Lone Wolf and Way of the Tiger (which was awesome beyond reckoning).
If you have seen Fighting Fantasy books in the US, turn to 55.
If you have not, you must read Way of the Tiger. Turn to 411.
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A ninja of the Way of the Scorpion poisons you with spiderfish venom. As the life fades from your body, you feel him search your clothes for the Scrolls of Kettsuin. You have failed.
Way of the Tiger was really good yes 
This thread just made me remember reading Way of the Tiger as a young kid, a mate of my older brothers brought it round and I remember looking at the pictures, I think I was only 6 or 7 then!
A quick google brought the cover up and I remember flicking through it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 11:11:00
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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My first one of those style of books wasn't a fantasy one.
It was one done in the David Drake Hammers Slammers universe.
I started with a SF tanker choose your own adventure.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 11:37:40
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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There was one recently from Black Library for 40K - Hive of the Dead I think it was?
40k + Zombies = good IMHO. I think it was Print on demand for the hefty price of £14, so a bit more than the £3-4 the FF books cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 11:42:42
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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They have a few out actually
http://www.blacklibrary.com/exclusive-products/bl-path
Note that for the 40k zombie one
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/hive-of-the-dead.html
there's some downloads, character sheet, advanced rules and errata.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/26 21:38:00
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja
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I've still got the original 20 or so, and the Sorcery! set, my daughter is reading them at the moment. Though I think she might have cheated to finish Starship Traveller first time (as did I  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/27 01:52:11
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Yeah, here in the US, my experience was with the Endless Quest books and Lone Wolf.
By the way, for the Lone Wolf fans, be sure to check out www.projectaon.org
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/27 09:08:03
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Great thread!
Used to love these books, tried really hard to control myself with cheating (including your stat rolls at the start) but found it impossible most of the time..
Was watching a Family Guy actually the other night where Peter was lying in bed with Louis, and ended up saying to Lois "I didn't turn the page Lois, you saw me I didn't turn the page!" Was pretty funny, I guess those books actually had a pretty far reaching influence.
precinctomega wrote:According to the latest WD, FF made Ian and Steve into millionaires and directly led to them selling out of GW.
R.
yes didn't Steve Jackson go on to make the company that came up with Lara Croft? I'm guessing he retired very early!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/29 12:58:10
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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I'm going to stick this in the RPG board area too but..
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/25597.html
Cubicle 7 Entertainment will publish Lone Wolf Roleplaying Games and detailed color maps of the Lone Wolf homeworld, Magnamund, Cubicle 7 and Lone Wolf developer Joe Dever announced Friday. Lone Wolf is a series of 28 gamebooks created by Dever and released beginning July 1984. Since that time the full run has sold over 9 million copies worldwide.
Recently Mongoose had been releasing the series, and completed publishing the first 17 volumes. German publisher Montikore-Verlag now has the rights. Mongoose also released a d20-style roleplaying game based on the series.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 10:56:14
Subject: Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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It loos like mongoose stopped publishing Lone Wolf last month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/30 13:30:04
Subject: Re:Fighting Fantasy and Wargaming.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Loved them, owned all of them up until a certain time.
I think Beneath Nightmare Castle was my favorite. But Citadel of Chaos, Deathtrap Dungeon, Seas of Blood, Battleblade Warrior and Creature of Havoc are strong contenders.
I also owned 'out of the pit' and 'titan - the guide to the ff world', both of which were amazing sourcebooks, and now thinking about that I may have to go order them off amazon or someplace.
They were certainly a gateway drug into GW stuff.
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