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For almost two months we have waited for GW to clear some of the numerous things that are wrong within the daemons codex and now we got it... in a form of three grammatical errata corrections... seriously?

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180049a_Chaos_Daemons_2013_v1.0_APRIL13.pdf

Not a FAQ.

Notice how there's nothing under the FAQ section?

It's just an errata.

You have to understand that the Daemon Codex is perfect and doesn't need a FAQ

Some stuff was covered in the BRB FAQ. Like the fact that Init cannot be lowered below 1.

Still, would have wanted an update for the flaming chariot as it is still useless garbage. Oh well, will save my money for something that works, like a helldrake ally

Why doesn't it work?

Can't fire templates after moving.
Burning Chariot lacks relentless for the driver.

Alright Ladies and gents:
Q
:Can enemy Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures be hit by Imotekhthe Stormlord’s Lord of the Storm special rule?
(p55)A:Yes

Does this mean that the Warp Storm can also hit them?

 Tomb King wrote:
Alright Ladies and gents:
Q
:Can enemy Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures be hit by Imotekhthe Stormlord’s Lord of the Storm special rule?
(p55)A:Yes

Does this mean that the Warp Storm can also hit them?

Yeah, that ruling really caught me out, now we're going to have to get a completely comprehensive list of things that ignore Hard to Hit.
Since the wording on the two is identical, I'd expect the Daemon one to not work against fliers... (*rolleyes @ GW*)

I'll be letting my Daemon opponents use the Necron FAQ as a go-ahead to hit my fliers until they finally get a propper FAQ for themselves.

 Makutsu wrote:
Can't fire templates after moving.
Burning Chariot lacks relentless for the driver.

I don't remember it having a restriction about moving 6" or fewer.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Makutsu wrote:
Can't fire templates after moving.
Burning Chariot lacks relentless for the driver.

I don't remember it having a restriction about moving 6" or fewer.

The guns are Heavy, not Assault. (Iirc)
A passenger on a moving vehicle counts as what?
If you're moving, do you fire normally?

rigeld2 wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Makutsu wrote:
Can't fire templates after moving.
Burning Chariot lacks relentless for the driver.

I don't remember it having a restriction about moving 6" or fewer.

The guns are Heavy, not Assault. (Iirc)
A passenger on a moving vehicle counts as what?
If you're moving, do you fire normally?

2 of the 3 are Heavy.

I never noticed that about the Flaming Chariot. Glad I never fielded one. I bought one because I liked the Herald model.

The model looks amazing, but the rules are just dissapointing
:(

One of the biggest FAQ for the Daemon Codex is actually in the Rulebook FAQ...

Page 2 – Modifiers
Change the last sentence to “A model’s Initiative cannot be
modified below 1, and no other characteristic can be modified
below 0”.

So Slanesh no longer prevents attacks back on charge, as some had been claiming.

 Tomb King wrote:
Alright Ladies and gents:
Q
:Can enemy Zooming Flyers and Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures be hit by Imotekhthe Stormlord’s Lord of the Storm special rule?
(p55)A:Yes

Does this mean that the Warp Storm can also hit them?

Njals (space wolves) tempest wrath should also be able to hit them, but he is also forgotten

rigeld2 wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Makutsu wrote:
Can't fire templates after moving.
Burning Chariot lacks relentless for the driver.

I don't remember it having a restriction about moving 6" or fewer.

The guns are Heavy, not Assault. (Iirc)
A passenger on a moving vehicle counts as what?
If you're moving, do you fire normally?

That's my point. The chariot has no restriction governing it's movement. If you want to fire the heavy weapons, remain stationary.

It works.

You may think it's not worth it's cost, but you can't contend that it has broken rules.

It's not really that the chariot has broken rules. It's just that, as written, the chariot is so terribad that many would rather believe that GWs rules writers just forgot that it couldn't fire without moving.

The other option is that GW's rules writers actually thought that a 10/10/10 open-topped vehicle that can't shoot while moving was usable if it cost 100 points. That's why people say it has broken rules. Because the alternative is to say that the codex writers have basically no clue at all as to the effectiveness of their unit designs.

Uh, if the chariot is a vehicle then it IS relentless.

 Kevin949 wrote:
Uh, if the chariot is a vehicle then it IS relentless.

The vehicle is. The passengers are not.
The Heavy weapons are fired by the passengers, not the vehicle.

 Kevin949 wrote:
Uh, if the chariot is a vehicle then it IS relentless.

Right the chariot is relentless, but the flamer guy embarked upon it is not.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 Kevin949 wrote:
Uh, if the chariot is a vehicle then it IS relentless.

Right the chariot is relentless, but the flamer guy embarked upon it is not.

Oh, gotcha. Hrm...ya that's pretty dumb.


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Ok, so first off the "blue horror" are "Crew" and under chariots it says that crew are part of the chariot itself, they should be counted as having relentless since they "are" the chariot. I have a feeling the same could be said for the exalted flamer since he can never be separate from the chariot no matter what. But they did not label him as such, which is a pity.

Is it b/c the lighting needs a 6 to hit the unit anyway? Each unit is hit only on a 6 after all.