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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 18:22:24
Subject: Re:Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Wow! Just popped back in to check on this. I'd have to agree that it certainly looks like quite the victory for BoK! The article stays up, Nick admits to no wrong-doing, offers no apology AND gets the symbolic payment from Battlefoam. I'm sure Romeo is furious.
I have a question for the legal types -
Does this set any kind of precedent, or would the case have actually had to be heard in court before that can happen? I'm just wondering what (if any) effect this might have going forward if a similar situation were to arise with other companies/podcasters/bloggers.
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Edit: I just googled ablutions and apparently it does not including dropping a duece. I should have looked it up early sorry for any confusion. - Baldsmug
Psiensis on the "good old days":
"Kids these days...
... I invented the 6th Ed meta back in 3rd ed.
Wait, what were we talking about again? Did I ever tell you about the time I gave you five bees for a quarter? That's what you'd say in those days, "give me five bees for a quarter", is what you'd say in those days. And you'd go down to the D&D shop, with an onion in your belt, 'cause that was the style of the time. So there I was in the D&D shop..." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 18:24:30
Subject: Re:Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tycho wrote:Does this set any kind of precedent, or would the case have actually had to be heard in court before that can happen?
No legal precedent here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/02 18:44:25
Subject: Re:Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Janthkin wrote:Tycho wrote:Does this set any kind of precedent, or would the case have actually had to be heard in court before that can happen?
No legal precedent here.
It doesn't set a precedent, but it does show how off the wall and unsubstantiated Battlefoam's claims were. For solid precedent you generally have to have a case decided at the appellate level, generally better in Federal Court than State Court (depending on what you are dealing with of course), and the precedent is stronger in the circuit in which the decision was made, but appellate level decisions are generally given weight outside of the circuit out of which the decision came. Supreme Court decisions are of course the strongest.
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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"
AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."
AlexHolker: "Allow me to put it this way: Paramount is Skynet, reboots are termination attempts, and your childhood is John Connor."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 03:03:55
Subject: Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Wraith
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Settled case implies that neither side was entirely sure going to the mattresses was the best option.
Now, about this 20% off 4th of July sale...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 04:03:10
Subject: Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Painting Within the Lines
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gunslingerpro wrote:Settled case implies that neither side was entirely sure going to the mattresses was the best option.
Now, about this 20% off 4th of July sale...
Settling does not actually mean anything about going to were mattresses are. The innocent party could have agreed to settle because they did not have an interest in being there in the first place (probable). Maybe the case would have uncovered something that the innocent party didn't want known. Maybe blue butt monkeys appeared and told the innocent party to call it.
Either of these is just as likely as your mattress scenario. I, however, am going to the mattress right now. Egyptian cotton sheets are calling my name (WIN! LOVE YA MA!).
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The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 04:33:17
Subject: Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Wraith
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Shepherd23 wrote: gunslingerpro wrote:Settled case implies that neither side was entirely sure going to the mattresses was the best option.
Now, about this 20% off 4th of July sale...
Settling does not actually mean anything about going to were mattresses are. The innocent party could have agreed to settle because they did not have an interest in being there in the first place (probable).
Aren't we saying the same thing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 06:51:47
Subject: Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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gunslingerpro wrote:Shepherd23 wrote: gunslingerpro wrote:Settled case implies that neither side was entirely sure going to the mattresses was the best option.
Now, about this 20% off 4th of July sale...
Settling does not actually mean anything about going to were mattresses are. The innocent party could have agreed to settle because they did not have an interest in being there in the first place (probable).
Aren't we saying the same thing?
Not unless you meant something different to what you wrote in your first post.
Assuming I've got my ducks in a row, BoK only went to court proceedings to force BF to put up or shut up regarding the legal threats/demands in the initial C&D letter. From the legal points in this thread and the depositions posted by BoK, they seemed to have backed up all bar one (tattoo guy) of the claims made in the post that kicked all of this off - BF's depositions were mostly from members of staff, and as far as I recall didn't actually seem to refute what BoK claimed with independent witnesses.
If BF's lawyers pointed out to Romeo that if they went to court they were going to get their backside handed to them on a silver platter - as did not seem improbable - leading to a settlement request that nullified the original C&D threat without needing to go to trial, then BoK wins without needing the additional hassle of a trial. This doesn't mean that BoK might not have thought about taking it "to the mattresses", but if you can get what you want without more work, why not go for it?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 09:15:57
Subject: Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Wraith
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Dysartes wrote: Not unless you meant something different to what you wrote in your first post.
Assuming I've got my ducks in a row, BoK only went to court proceedings to force BF to put up or shut up regarding the legal threats/demands in the initial C&D letter. From the legal points in this thread and the depositions posted by BoK, they seemed to have backed up all bar one (tattoo guy) of the claims made in the post that kicked all of this off - BF's depositions were mostly from members of staff, and as far as I recall didn't actually seem to refute what BoK claimed with independent witnesses.
If BF's lawyers pointed out to Romeo that if they went to court they were going to get their backside handed to them on a silver platter - as did not seem improbable - leading to a settlement request that nullified the original C&D threat without needing to go to trial, then BoK wins without needing the additional hassle of a trial. This doesn't mean that BoK might not have thought about taking it "to the mattresses", but if you can get what you want without more work, why not go for it?
So wait, exactly what I said? It was not the best option for either party. Hence they settled. Why is this confusing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 14:40:20
Subject: Update on BoK v Battle Foam - settled out of court - starts on pg 18
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Fixture of Dakka
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When we've reached the point where we're arguing with each other about what we said, the thread is probably finished.
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