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 chris_valera wrote:
I'd like to pledge, but I'm going to pass. The sculpting is pretty average for a joke mini and the figure is a little large for what it's supposed to be. It should be smaller with larger wings, like the old plastic bats that came in the WHQ box set. The detailing needs to be better on this wings as well. look at the metal wings that came with the 40K2 gargoyles. There ne4eds to be some additional veins and striations in the musculature. A little forked demon tail on the back would be awesome as well.

I also take issue that you can't order individual models, so one buttpirate and four generic guys. Or one buttpirate and nine generic guys. Or whatever squad-and-squad-leader combo you want.

But seriously, the detail needs to be better on this. It's a good first effort, but the final sculpt needs to be much better

Thank you for your detailed criticisms. They are very useful to me, especially when I go to "tighten up" the final sculpts at the end when they actually go into production. I learned a great deal from this effort, and one of the big ones is that the proof of concepts should look at least as good as the final product. That will help me with subsequent efforts.

Tails are probably out, at least for the products I've posted so far. I think it would be too far of a departure from the posted and hence promised product; but I will consider them for further releases while this kickstarter is active.

However, to the final point, re: ordering - you can indeed order single models, either for the named character or not.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

 kronk wrote:
My posts have been expunged of puns.

I'm sorry.

Same.

Why are you guys doing this? I'm not sorry, and I'm not gonn adjust, and here's why: some of the MODs may not appreciate the cheeky one liners, they may find the cracked jokes to be in bad taste, but every single bit of hot air we spew on the topic keeps the thread near the front, gets people interested, and gets Ouze's project funded. Now I don't personally have an interest in owning "flying butts" (sorry Ouze), but as a fellow Dakkanaut, I want to see Ouze's project gain support, and that's what we were doing. MODs, if you'd like to see this succeed, please put it back where it belongs.

Why did we remove puns and 1 liners? Because as it had been said by the mod that moved this, the thread was disasterously off topic, and so he moved it here. If by removing the OT pieces, it becomes easier for us to make the case to move it back into N&R. I've already flagged the OP of this thread in an effort to get it moved back. It's obviously not going to happen at this point which is a shame because this project could use the love that N&R had been giving it. I've since shared it again on my fb page simply because of the lack of traffic due to not being in N&R. With the mods, for the most part, you have to work with them to get what you want. I mean 13.5k posts on this site and I've yet to receive an official warning from the mods why? Because I play ball with them, I push back when I feel it's worth it to do so, and I work with them when it's beneficial. At this moment in time? It's far more beneficial to clean up the thread as best as we as users can and then request it's move back to N&R simply to show that we as responsible Dakkaroos can handle a thread about butts with a level of maturity.

 Ouze wrote:
They are very useful to me, especially when I go to "tighten up" the final sculpts at the end when they actually go into production.

This is actually good to hear: Some slightly more realistic wing structures would probably help for people who want to use these as a wierd chaos stand-in, and would also likely increase their shock value for people who just want to have them in their collection to for the sake of pure oddness. Since the front and back are apparently similar based on your earlier post, improved wings might also help establish some sort of facing should that become relevant.

Very disappointed about this being moved to off-topic. It really should be in N&R.

 d-usa wrote:
Very disappointed about this being moved to off-topic. It really should be in N&R.

Hey look! An OT post!

So all of this got started because of people whining about kickstarters in N&R?

No, I'm with the mods on this one. Everything about this thread, and it's participants minus a few, reeks of OT. To the black void with it and good riddance.

 Janthkin wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Very disappointed about this being moved to off-topic. It really should be in N&R.

Hey look! An OT post!

If talking about the move is off-topic, then wasn't the move itself off-topic .

I just think it was legit news, I'm excited about the Kickstarter and backing it at the $30 level. I don't know if anybody is planning to pull their pledge at the last minute and treating it as some sort of protest Kickstarter, but I know that I am not. I think the product is fun and I'm always looking for some lighthearted humor in my horde armies.

Will all future Kickstarters face editorial clearance requirements?

 d-usa wrote:

 Janthkin wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Very disappointed about this being moved to off-topic. It really should be in N&R.

Hey look! An OT post!

If talking about the move is off-topic, then wasn't the move itself off-topic .

I just think it was legit news, I'm excited about the Kickstarter and backing it at the $30 level. I don't know if anybody is planning to pull their pledge at the last minute and treating it as some sort of protest Kickstarter, but I know that I am not. I think the product is fun and I'm always looking for some lighthearted humor in my horde armies.

Then I wish you well with them; for that matter, I wish Ouze well with his project. The problem wasn't the KickStarter; it was the page after page of ill-conceived "humor."

Will all future Kickstarters face editorial clearance requirements?

And, of course, there are the attempts at editorializing that are underlying this whole KickStarter.

EVERY POST is subject to moderation; there's not much need to provide additional guidance. If something is in the wrong place, based on my view, I'll move it. If posts are inappropriate or violate Dakka's posting rules, again based on my opinion, I'll act there, too.

If there's bubbles or faults in the casting you can just say they've got a special bonus Cellulite Assault butt.

Well done on smashing your goal, even if 'stretch goals' and 'butts' shouldn't really be in the same sentence on a family forum.

So if the thread was closed, and a new, humorless thread was made in N&R, you'd be fine and dandy?

And what is on-topic humor. Are suggestions such as "butt-pirate" on-topic since they meet the subject of the Kickstarter and were also incorporated into the design of the stretch goal?

was talking about this with a friend of mine and he thought they might make good stand ins for blood angel assault marines, though I wonder if a more angelic wing type is an option?

This KS is now being talked about in the Robotech KS comments section.

Sooo... you might see some more action?

The internet is getting behind flying assault butts

Who'd have thunk it?

Well, my wife is looking forward to helping with the production - she's one of the people I trained up on how to do it. I've also started shopping around for the 2 pieces of equipment I've long wanted and never quite acquired - a pressure pot and a vacuum pump. I'm waiting until it ends to actually buy hardware though.

Right now I don't think I need either item to do this successfully - I've cast a lot of jewelry for Etsy that's fundamentally similar (but not butt shaped) without issues; but I think they would make unacceptable casts much more rare.

 d-usa wrote:
Very disappointed about this being moved to off-topic. It really should be in N&R.

It's probably better that it's in the OT forum as this forum gets the most traffic in DakkaDakka.

This thread is never, ever going to leave the OT so you guys should probably stop making posts requesting such.

 Ouze wrote:
This thread is never, ever going to leave the OT so you guys should probably stop making posts requesting such.

Yeah man...

I await your chance to make these with a pressure pot!

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
This thread is never, ever going to leave the OT so you guys should probably stop making posts requesting such.

Yeah man...

I await your chance to make these with a pressure pot!

If you don't mind me asking, what does that do? Better detail, faster casting, that sort of stuff?

 Ouze wrote:
This thread is never, ever going to leave the OT so you guys should probably stop making posts requesting such.

Could you make the butts fleshier in the final products? They look a little flat right now.

 Ouze wrote:
I've also started shopping around for the 2 pieces of equipment I've long wanted and never quite acquired - a pressure pot and a vacuum pump. I'm waiting until it ends to actually buy hardware though.

After the I read this line and the first thought into my head was, "Ouze is using us to fund his bomb making experiments".
Damn terrorists and your pressure cookers. *shakes fist in anger*

 motyak wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
This thread is never, ever going to leave the OT so you guys should probably stop making posts requesting such.

Yeah man...

I await your chance to make these with a pressure pot!

If you don't mind me asking, what does that do? Better detail, faster casting, that sort of stuff?

Putting newly poured resin into a pressure pot compresses the air bubbles smaller, so that either a) it gives the air bubble an easier time to escape to the vents or b) compresses the air bubbles so small, you don't see it.

Plus, it gives the model a "shinier' finish.

So we are getting shiny heinies?

(Since this is staying in the OT this should be okay right?)

 d-usa wrote:
So we are getting shiny heinies?

(Since this is staying in the OT this should be okay right?)

good one!

I'd post some picts, but I'm very positives that it's against Dakka rulez somewhere.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
So we are getting shiny heinies?

(Since this is staying in the OT this should be okay right?)

good one!

I'd post some picts, but I'm very positives that it's against Dakka rulez somewhere.

Not if you scroll up to a subforum at the top of the page...

 motyak wrote:


Not if you scroll up to a subforum at the top of the page...

Well... I've only done them on GW models... so, yeah, that won't fly.

If there's enough interest, I could build something myself and make some castings of that with pictures... that way, there would be no IP issue.

EDIT: look at my gallery, you'll see the pressure pot I use.

If I paid extra could you make a sculpt using a picture of my butt?

Could there be zombie butts? As a stretch goal? I have no idea how you would sculpt such a thing but I reckon a zombie flavoured sculpt would slot on quite nicely what with zombie everything atm.

So if a member of the site starts a Kickstarter, other members must be humorless or else it gets moved away from the appropriate forum? Can't we back the problem and also be of good cheer? It doesn't seem fair to single this out.