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So ... 10+ weeks for the troops = 2015 .. sweet

Yep, for about a picosecond after I read the "feedback" part of the intro I thought they might have developed some level of self-awareness and were about to lay out the issues people have had with them and their proposed solutions.

Then I remembered who we're talking about here, and quelle surprise....

Honestly though this update inspires only one thing in me now; relief. First because the "Flooding" section was not a ten paragraph flowery explanation of how the entire operation had been reduced to rubble by mother nature(but totes don't worry you guise cuz that means we can rework the sculpts agains to make them EVEN MOAR AWESUMZ!!111), and second because, thank any deities that happen to be listening, it will all be over soon. Once they have the snipers in my second package will arrive and I can finally put the models away in a drawer for a few months to try and forget all the bad mojo enough that I actually want to use them in a project.

I can't say I am impressed at all by Kiki - totally underwhelmed and not convinced its a good diversion from the original artwork.

Similarly, I have been disappointed that they have not listened at all to feedback myself and other backers provided about Ludmilla and her 'cybernetics'. Its a shame.

I've put a request in through the account manager to drop those two from my wave 3 (whenever that is) single wave pledge order and to replace them with more basic Jailbirds. Considering they said the chat would be manned I've been waiting for nearly 3 and a half hours without so much as a sniff of a reply - I've emailed and used the alternate message system - all silent.

I'm a bit gutted by this KS (though the Sedition Wars one should have given me some idea how KS would play out), in particular the weeks (months) long silence after each pledge of another update next week... and the seemingly endless redesign/resculpt/reprint of some of the figures.

Also a bit disheartened by the ongoing talk of Paypal holdups - when they had so much money tied up in the payment systems, what could be causing them grief? I've not heard or experienced other KS using this as an excuse to hold things up - surely it should have been something relatively easy to sort out direct with Paypal given the amounts of money at stake and their 'experience' in retail pre KS.

I'd also imagine the need access to money to continue paying the 'foundries'. Is this KS at risk of defaulting on pledges if they can't afford to manufacture after all this time the bulk of the range (ie troops and other multi figure sets)?!

Paypal have to deal with claims for non delivery and such, so where pre-orders etc and concerned they MAY decide to put a hold on all or some of the funds

if they decide to hold the funds there is nothing that the account holder can do (well you can beg, but it's unlikely to work), paypal will release it in their own sweet time, or when they see signs of the goods being delivered

(for example new ebay sellers, and sellers in scam ridden catagories often have a 21 day hold on their accounts, with no access to the money until then, or until feedback has been left showing delivery, big transactins can he held longer)

Don't mistake RH as the golden standard for handling Kickstarter projects. Most projects I've backed have been delivered within a reasonable timeframe from their initial expectations.

With this one, all bets are off.

~iPaint

re: Paypal, it could be that enough people reported them after long bouts of silence and inactivity from the creator's end, either fearing the worst and wanting a refund, or hoping that a nudge through more official channels would get a result. If an account gets pinged enough times it will be suspended after all.

So the victim of horrid genetic experiments is now basically a fat lady? And tumblr doesn't go on fire over this? Amazing.

I actually read all the backer quote to make sure they didn't pull anything positive out of what I said in the comments

Cheers Orlando and BrookM for the thoughts on the Paypal stuff - I had assumed the money would have passed through Paypal too quickly for the delays to have played a part.

I did get a response from RH re my order change just after I went to bed which addressed my change request - though I needed a follow up contact tonight as I hadn't been specific enough in nominating which of the JB Box Sets I wanted to sub in for Kiki and Ana had guessed the wrong one - the live chat worked fantastically tonight and the order change was sorted in about 2 minutes - I can't fault that aspect of the business.

 BrookM wrote:

 Bullockist wrote:
I know this is all a joke but i still feel ambivalent to this KS , mainly due to the fact i am still waiting on some fething d6 that are shaped like rockets after 1 year and 6 months.

What's their excuse for the delay? Quite curious as I remember that KS.

Something like, materials , blah, blah, materials, blah , blah, delays, blah, blaH, blah blah, I was expecting a\ 6 month wait, now I check it once every 3 months . Girls kickstarter if i consider the complexities involved is well ahead of schedule compared to rocket dice.

Did nobody notice the update?, I'm guessing this is news.

we had a redesigned Arushka, which Honestly now I wish id chosen.

And Kiki Buldozer which has a man on a stick.... I'm not sure about this.

The Sister and Minion are cool,


#ooohnews

That would be the update shown on the previous page, yes?

#oldnewsnow

Right, although I can tell that there seems to be some issues getting these lovely ladies out can someone please tell me where I can (or will be able too) get a hold of these models as there are several I want for my IG army.

You can't.
At the moment no figure has been released (official delivery date of ALL kickstarter minis was March 2014.).

No one knows when backers will get their final waves. We can expect at least another half year until they've shipped the mechas.

Street date for stuff is not before mid 2015.

 monkeytroll wrote:
That would be the update shown on the previous page, yes?

#oldnewsnow

See this is what I get for relying on emails

Any idea if they reply to the form from their website?

#Awwdangit!

 -iPaint- wrote:
Don't mistake RH as the golden standard for handling Kickstarter projects. Most projects I've backed have been delivered within a reasonable timeframe from their initial expectations.
With this one, all bets are off.
~iPaint

Really? You must have gotten very lucky with your particular KS draw. The delays here seem unfortunately typical.

Price we pay for getting nothing less than perfection.

 Azazelx wrote:

 -iPaint- wrote:
Don't mistake RH as the golden standard for handling Kickstarter projects. Most projects I've backed have been delivered within a reasonable timeframe from their initial expectations.
With this one, all bets are off.
~iPaint

Really? You must have gotten very lucky with your particular KS draw. The delays here seem unfortunately typical.

I Backed a game that was going to be like a homeworld 2 mmo it was going to be out in june.... , they've been dark for 4 months now.

so yeah RH is still superior to some KS out there.

Though i got Minis from Williy miniatures from indiegogo while the campaign was still going which was cool.

All the KS I'm familiar with took forever to ship. The only other one I've put money into pledged before RH and still hasn't shipped a thing.

Yeah...

Avatars of War Indiegogo 2 years late
Kings of War couple of months late
Mantis Cases a few months late
Baker Company Winter War several months late
Raging Heroes 80% late.

AoW still holds my personal negative record...


Bye the way.... they have completely "forgotten" about KS comments... right? Last one was mid July (!) No comment on any update or general comment section.

RoninXiC wrote:
Raging Heroes 80% late.

RoninXiC wrote:
Yeah...

Avatars of War Indiegogo 2 years late
Kings of War couple of months late
Mantis Cases a few months late
Baker Company Winter War several months late
Raging Heroes 80% late.

AoW still holds my personal negative record...


Bye the way.... they have completely "forgotten" about KS comments... right? Last one was mid July (!) No comment on any update or general comment section.

Isn't that depending on your pledge, lots of stuff i am waiting for is all wave 3, but other people already got theirs.

Sure... my bad for wanting the mechas, bikes and troops ;(

And I'm still waiting for them to print and cast up Wolfenstein, stupid me. Are we doing a spot of victim blaming here as well now?

 BrookM wrote:
And I'm still waiting for them to print and cast up Wolfenstein, stupid me. Are we doing a spot of victim blaming here as well now?

Well hows about them there Shewolves?

Sorry chap, not into furries.

 BrookM wrote:
Sorry chap, not into furries.

Well that made me laugh so much I nearly choked... Kudos

Or, were you referring to the nazi kind?

 BrookM wrote:
Or, were you referring to the nazi kind?

Nazi werewolves?


That could be a film!

I was referring to the minis.. I ordered one

I see you've never heard of nazisploitation, probably for the best.

 BrookM wrote:
I see you've never heard of nazisploitation, probably for the best.

I'm quite innocent in some respects.... though i do own a certain card game where Hitler and Stalin are female wizards