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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 19:51:25
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There's a picture in the article...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 19:59:52
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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purplefood wrote:You probably could assign relative values to people concerning how valuable they are to society by taking into account dozens of factors. It's kinda grim and dehumanising though so i doubt you would want to.
UK law dose it a lot. The basic concept of civil law in the UK is to return the parties to the point as if the action had not happened. We work on the basis of covering the costs to the wronged not a punitive system (like the US, which is why they have the massive payouts we don't).
Therefore when somone dies as the result of the actions of another the surviving people will only recive the amount that the person could have contributed to the other, plus some other costs (such as funeral expenses and probably some costs for things like visiting them in hospital).
As an example, in the US the death of a chiled through neglegence will genraly result in a huge payout (if you have the right lawyer) as there is huge emotional damages. In the UK it is normaly tiny, as the child was not contributing financialy to the family. It's not normaly socioty, but the direct losses to the family that are worked out.
Also, why send me to the DM site? I always read the comments and always regret it. They make me so angry.
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insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 20:01:55
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jebus......why did I even look...why couldn't you tell me he was a "Chub Scout Leader"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 20:46:19
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Don't forget the rule "Do not speak ill of the dead".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 20:57:07
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Whoa....I was referring to the left one in the pic
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:00:13
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Indeed, it's in good taste to mock a man whose wife has just died.
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Prestor Jon wrote:Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:05:32
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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When you see death up close and personal few times in combat it gives you a new outlook....then later to find out your stage 3 in a bad sort of way with cancer death becomes "Death" in a buddy way
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
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RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:06:52
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Again, it is indeed in good taste.
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Prestor Jon wrote:Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:12:39
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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SO eventually when Death comes and get me. I hope he had to get someone that was 30 stones before me. I even provide a lunch and a beer....because it'll be one long drawn out fight because I am not going peacefully....unless its Death from Supernatural.....then I know I get a slice of pizza and glass of sweet tea before I go peacefully....I would even ask for an autograpth Automatically Appended Next Post: oh and fried pickle slices to
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/03 21:13:17
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 21:15:02
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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I think the point Whitey is trying to make is that no matter how you feel about death you are mocking a man who has just lost his wife.
That is not in good taste regardless of what you feel about death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 22:26:12
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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[DCM]
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purplefood wrote:I think the point Whitey is trying to make is that no matter how you feel about death you are mocking a man who has just lost his wife.
That is not in good taste regardless of what you feel about death.
Well said--let's try and follow this while posting in this thread. Thanks.
Ryan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 22:32:12
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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Keep in mind, Jihadin is still on post-operative psycho drugs. So he says at least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 22:38:07
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ANd two Corona's in me......two more to go....If I list the drugs I'm on...it'll be a long list....
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 22:39:08
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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Jihadin wrote:ANd two Corona's in me......two more to go....If I list the drugs I'm on...it'll be a long list....
Maybe it would best to stay away from the keyboard for a bit then... and stop with the beers. There's a reason Whitney Houston is dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/03 22:42:15
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Redacted by Mannahnin
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/04 00:11:06
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 15:00:24
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Dreadclaw69 wrote: Azza007 wrote:The issue I have was the doctor offered a payment yet the husband turned it down as he wanted more. But it is not about money. I also do not think the doctor is responsible, at least completely. She got hit by her mobility scooter that was improperly secured, probably what killed her and not the impact of the crash as such. There also is nothing to say he was driving dangerously just that he lost control of the car.
If the collision was not his fault then the court would not have fined him and stripped him of his licence for 3 years. They point about the mobility scooter hitting her is a minor one. It may reduce the damages paid if the Doctor's lawyer can argue contributory negligence, but the Doctor was the cause of the accident. Therefore the liability largely rests with him.
I think an interesting question will be how much of her death was a result of immediate damage, and how much was a result of not getting immediate treatment at a hospital. Im not divorcing the impact itself from her death, but the article mentions there were two failed attempts at ambulance service before a military grade chopper was called in to finally medi-vac her. I can't imagine all that time spent waiting to find a viable method of medical transport helped her situation at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 17:15:45
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 17:24:46
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 17:28:26
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You bet your ass!
They'll make you fat, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 17:34:10
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Reading, England
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streamdragon wrote: Dreadclaw69 wrote: Azza007 wrote:The issue I have was the doctor offered a payment yet the husband turned it down as he wanted more. But it is not about money. I also do not think the doctor is responsible, at least completely. She got hit by her mobility scooter that was improperly secured, probably what killed her and not the impact of the crash as such. There also is nothing to say he was driving dangerously just that he lost control of the car.
If the collision was not his fault then the court would not have fined him and stripped him of his licence for 3 years. They point about the mobility scooter hitting her is a minor one. It may reduce the damages paid if the Doctor's lawyer can argue contributory negligence, but the Doctor was the cause of the accident. Therefore the liability largely rests with him.
I think an interesting question will be how much of her death was a result of immediate damage, and how much was a result of not getting immediate treatment at a hospital. Im not divorcing the impact itself from her death, but the article mentions there were two failed attempts at ambulance service before a military grade chopper was called in to finally medi-vac her. I can't imagine all that time spent waiting to find a viable method of medical transport helped her situation at all.
It also took 45 minutes before the crews got to the scene it seems if I remember right. Thats not going to help survival chances.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 17:36:38
Subject: Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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Yeah... I'd have to say when you need to call in the military to airlift you to a hospital, it's a bit bogus to be placing all of the blame on the Dr's shoulders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/04 19:36:52
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Dr Kendrick admitted causing the death of the holidaymaker, and injuring her husband and three of his own colleagues, as they drove to a medical course.
The orthopaedic surgeon - described as 'an exceptional' talent - lost control of his rented people carrier and smashed into the Johnstons' oncoming vehicle.
The orthopaedic surgeon - described as 'an exceptional' talent - lost control of his rented people carrier and smashed into the Johnstons' oncoming vehicle.
Sheriff Fletcher said: 'Your contribution to society in your everyday work is extensive. At the time of the accident you employed all your medical skills to help the persons who were injured.
'If the person had been of average fitness they might have survived the injuries caused by the collision.'
The Johnstons were both struck by an unsecured mobility scooter - weighing 15 stone - which was in the back of their Volvo estate.
The court heard how Kendrick spent 45 minutes at the scene before paramedics arrived, tending to the injured including Mrs Johnston.
Her weight was so great that both the ambulance and the air ambulance called to the scene were unable to transfer her to hospital. A helicopter from RAF Kinloss eventually took her to Ninewells Hospital in Dundee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0008/05/20 15:28:01
Subject: Re:Surgeon kills woman in car crash, refuses to pay damages.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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kronk wrote:
You bet your ass!
They'll make you fat, though.
I'll skip the frying and just have me some thick pickle chips!
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