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2013/06/06 06:50:37
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
For years I have been wishing for plastic Sisters of Battle kit to be released. Even heard some rumors back when the Witch Hunters codex came out that this was happening but it never did. Now I see these wicked Toughest Girls In The Galaxy models from Raging Heroes and I want me som SoB! I like the concept of the army and some of their models have been fantastic but I would never build and army with the limited selection they had.
Anyone heard anything about this? Will this ever happen? This is probably one of the most underplayed armies out there that has some of the most potential. I want a plastic army that can field 8,783,948,009 flamers for 2,000 pts without having to buy and build a the bloody IG army.
Who's with me?
2013/06/06 06:52:16
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Bitz_Addict wrote: Now I see these wicked Toughest Girls In The Galaxy models from Raging Heroes and I want me som SoB! I like the concept of the army and some of their models have been fantastic but I would never build and army with the limited selection they had.
TGG has more selection than SoB has. Give it a month and TGG will have a LOT more selection. One version looks good on the table with DKoK allies or Steel Legion. All three factions look like they could contribute to a SoB "counts as" army.
GW dropped the ball on this and they've got nobody to blame but themselves.
2013/06/06 06:58:49
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Yea this should be moved over to the discussion section, that said only vets like sisters, let alone know about them. Seriously they didn't even have an army profile in the 6th Edition rule book that I could remember. Honestly GW probably feel they don't have the mass appeal other armies have and are phasing them out.
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First they raised prices on the Eldar, and I did not speak out because I did not play Eldar.
Then, they raised prices on the Orks, and I did not speak out because I did not play Orks.
Then, they raised prices on the Nids, and I did not speak out because I did not play Nids.
Then, they raised prices on the Marines, and there was nobody to speak out for me.
2013/06/06 06:59:53
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Bitz_Addict wrote: Now I see these wicked Toughest Girls In The Galaxy models from Raging Heroes and I want me som SoB! I like the concept of the army and some of their models have been fantastic but I would never build and army with the limited selection they had.
TGG has more selection than SoB has. Give it a month and TGG will have a LOT more selection. One version looks good on the table with DKoK allies or Steel Legion. All three factions look like they could contribute to a SoB "counts as" army.
GW dropped the ball on this and they've got nobody to blame but themselves.
Yeah, I'm excited to see what they do.
2013/06/06 07:02:51
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Spartan089 wrote: Yea this should be moved over to the discussion section, that said only vets like sisters, let alone know about them. Seriously they didn't even have an army profile in the 6th Edition rule book that I could remember. Honestly GW probably feel they don't have the mass appeal other armies have and are phasing them out.
How do I move it?
Damn GW. They shot themselves in the foot. SoB have a ton of potential and would have a lot more appeal if they hadn't limited it. I honestly hope they don't decide to phase them out altogether.
N'Ferno wrote: Don't forget that Raging Heroes will also have a female Space Paladins army kickstarter going up sometime after TGG.
Watch GW hurry the release of the new SoB now that they see others encroaching on their turf heh.
If history has taught us anything it is that GW will not try to make itself more competitive. They will find something that they can sue them for and shut them down. Eh...have adopted the "Apple Model" of business.
On the other hand, one can hope that the prospect of competition motivates them.
2013/06/06 07:10:30
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Spartan089 wrote: Yea this should be moved over to the discussion section, that said only vets like sisters, let alone know about them. Seriously they didn't even have an army profile in the 6th Edition rule book that I could remember. Honestly GW probably feel they don't have the mass appeal other armies have and are phasing them out.
The problem is though the reason only vets know about them is because they get no airtime in WD which hobby newbs tend to read, no new models, their entire range is metal and direct only, as previously discussed they barely feature in rule books or other codices fluff. GW are doing the whole not watering a plant then complaining when it dies. Plastic sisters would sell without a doubt, I think the hype caused by the TGG kick starter supports this. However an entirely metal army is cost prohibitive, if I decided really badly that I needed some metal sisters I would go on ebay n get second hand ones, this is probably pretty common (in terms of people who don't mind whole metal armies anyway lol) so GW probably never see any sales for sisters.
Spartan089 wrote: Yea this should be moved over to the discussion section, that said only vets like sisters, let alone know about them. Seriously they didn't even have an army profile in the 6th Edition rule book that I could remember. Honestly GW probably feel they don't have the mass appeal other armies have and are phasing them out.
The problem is though the reason only vets know about them is because they get no airtime in WD which hobby newbs tend to read, no new models, their entire range is metal and direct only, as previously discussed they barely feature in rule books or other codices fluff. GW are doing the whole not watering a plant then complaining when it dies. Plastic sisters would sell without a doubt, I think the hype caused by the TGG kick starter supports this. However an entirely metal army is cost prohibitive, if I decided really badly that I needed some metal sisters I would go on ebay n get second hand ones, this is probably pretty common (in terms of people who don't mind whole metal armies anyway lol) so GW probably never see any sales for sisters.
Sad but true. I am currently building an inquisitor retinue just for the hell of it and went dug up a couple of old SoB models with meltas to use as Warrior Acolytes. The old models aren't bad but are next to impossible to chop or modify. If they would only take the same approach as they did with the Grey Knights. Now those went from good pewter models to some of the best plastic kits available.
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2013/06/06 07:26:04
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Yay its the biweekly where are the sisters thread!
Anyway, no one has confirmed that the plastic SoB models were made or how far along the project got. There were rumors the initial sculpts and or models made from them were unsatisfactory.
No one knows nor is there likely going to be any information about them forthcoming for many months, if ever.
Spartan089 wrote: Yea this should be moved over to the discussion section, that said only vets like sisters, let alone know about them. Seriously they didn't even have an army profile in the 6th Edition rule book that I could remember. Honestly GW probably feel they don't have the mass appeal other armies have and are phasing them out.
The problem is though the reason only vets know about them is because they get no airtime in WD which hobby newbs tend to read, no new models, their entire range is metal and direct only, as previously discussed they barely feature in rule books or other codices fluff. GW are doing the whole not watering a plant then complaining when it dies. Plastic sisters would sell without a doubt, I think the hype caused by the TGG kick starter supports this. However an entirely metal army is cost prohibitive, if I decided really badly that I needed some metal sisters I would go on ebay n get second hand ones, this is probably pretty common (in terms of people who don't mind whole metal armies anyway lol) so GW probably never see any sales for sisters.
They're not complaining when it dies, they're waiting eagerly for it to die so the y can throw it away and forget about it. When ever a thread like this comes about, it inevitably ends with gw dont care about SoB-because they dont. From my personal experience, not sure about everyone else, the current prices are too expensive for people to start a new army at square one, therefore they'll be aprehensive to Re-do SoB because pretty much everyone would have to start at square one.
3000 points.
2013/06/06 07:33:34
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
JWhex wrote: Yay its the biweekly where are the sisters thread!
Anyway, no one has confirmed that the plastic SoB models were made or how far along the project got. There were rumors the initial sculpts and or models made from them were unsatisfactory.
No one knows nor is there likely going to be any information about them forthcoming for many months, if ever.
Way to bring me down.
2013/06/06 07:38:32
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
Spartan089 wrote: Yea this should be moved over to the discussion section, that said only vets like sisters, let alone know about them. Seriously they didn't even have an army profile in the 6th Edition rule book that I could remember. Honestly GW probably feel they don't have the mass appeal other armies have and are phasing them out.
The problem is though the reason only vets know about them is because they get no airtime in WD which hobby newbs tend to read, no new models, their entire range is metal and direct only, as previously discussed they barely feature in rule books or other codices fluff. GW are doing the whole not watering a plant then complaining when it dies. Plastic sisters would sell without a doubt, I think the hype caused by the TGG kick starter supports this. However an entirely metal army is cost prohibitive, if I decided really badly that I needed some metal sisters I would go on ebay n get second hand ones, this is probably pretty common (in terms of people who don't mind whole metal armies anyway lol) so GW probably never see any sales for sisters.
They're not complaining when it dies, they're waiting eagerly for it to die so the y can throw it away and forget about it. When ever a thread like this comes about, it inevitably ends with gw dont care about SoB-because they dont. From my personal experience, not sure about everyone else, the current prices are too expensive for people to start a new army at square one, therefore they'll be aprehensive to Re-do SoB because pretty much everyone would have to start at square one.
You bring a good point. It is a bummer that GW are slowly whittling away at those armies that aren't as popular simply because they don't make enough off of them. That and the increasing prices are just wrecking the hobby altogether. I've noticed fewer and fewer people in the hobby shops picking up GW products and, as a result, the shelves are pretty sparse too since the shops don't want to stock it as much.
Oh well, one can only hope for a revival.
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cybogoblin wrote: I'm pretty sure the plastic Sisters are in the same place as the Squats. Slowly digesting in the belly of the Tyranid hive mind.
Eh, I don't think they are that far gone, yet.
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MarsNZ wrote: Never understood all the Sisters hype. I was there when they came out in 2e, they added very little to the game even back then.
In the Witch Hunters codex they had some decent weapons options with a lot of room for improvement. I think the draw is the uniqueness of the army. I have only ever seen two people field a full 2000pt SoB army at local tournaments but they got a lot of attention from other players and even people who just happened to be walking by. Granted, one was painted hot pink and had radically modified Cadillac models that counted as rhinos for transports along with priests dressed like pimps driving them.
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2013/06/06 08:19:15
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
In the Witch Hunters codex they had some decent weapons options with a lot of room for improvement. I think the draw is the uniqueness of the army. I have only ever seen two people field a full 2000pt SoB army at local tournaments but they got a lot of attention from other players and even people who just happened to be walking by. Granted, one was painted hot pink and had radically modified Cadillac models that counted as rhinos for transports along with priests dressed like pimps driving them.
At least SoB aren't forgotten in the Black Library. There are few, but sisters had 2 books dedicated and 1 audiobook. One book I can't recommend enough is the "The Death of Antagonis": It has one of the coolest 40k chars I have seen in so much time, a canoness. Here's a quote from a review:
The Death of Antagonis also introduces one of the coolest 40K characters in a long, long time:
The Canoness Errant Setheno.
I am not (was not?) a huge Sisters of Battle fan per se. But holy! Setheno hits the pages of The Death of Antagonis with a bang and steals the limelight from everyone in the book, including the novel’s (eminently cool) main character Volos.
If someone from Black Library is reading this, chain David Annandale to his desk and have him write a Canoness Setheno novel. Or three! Do it now!
Setheno is one of my favourite characters from Black Library in a long time. She is just the kind of quirky, grim-dark being that can only really exist in Warhammer 40K. She would be comical elsewhere, but fits in 100% here.
My biggest hope is what happened to the DE. They weren't having much success, the minis were fugly, they were gonna be canned like the Squats, *BOOM*, new army, instant success!
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2013/06/06 08:26:45
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
In the Witch Hunters codex they had some decent weapons options with a lot of room for improvement. I think the draw is the uniqueness of the army. I have only ever seen two people field a full 2000pt SoB army at local tournaments but they got a lot of attention from other players and even people who just happened to be walking by. Granted, one was painted hot pink and had radically modified Cadillac models that counted as rhinos for transports along with priests dressed like pimps driving them.
At least SoB aren't forgotten in the Black Library. There are few, but sisters had 2 books dedicated and 1 audiobook. One book I can't recommend enough is the "The Death of Antagonis": It has one of the coolest 40k chars I have seen in so much time, a canoness. Here's a quote from a review:
The Death of Antagonis also introduces one of the coolest 40K characters in a long, long time:
The Canoness Errant Setheno.
I am not (was not?) a huge Sisters of Battle fan per se. But holy! Setheno hits the pages of The Death of Antagonis with a bang and steals the limelight from everyone in the book, including the novel’s (eminently cool) main character Volos.
If someone from Black Library is reading this, chain David Annandale to his desk and have him write a Canoness Setheno novel. Or three! Do it now!
Setheno is one of my favourite characters from Black Library in a long time. She is just the kind of quirky, grim-dark being that can only really exist in Warhammer 40K. She would be comical elsewhere, but fits in 100% here.
My biggest hope is what happened to the DE. They weren't having much success, the minis were fugly, they were gonna be canned like the Squats, *BOOM*, new army, instant success!
I will check it. The fluff of SoB have always been pretty badass and you are right, DE was about as bad as SoB are now and they were resurrected with some stunning models. I see them on the boards more than I see Eldar. Of course, this will change now that the new Eldar are out.
2013/06/06 10:26:20
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
MarsNZ wrote: Never understood all the Sisters hype. I was there when they came out in 2e, they added very little to the game even back then.
It is the "Dead Has Been Star" effect.
When Elvis died it was his best career move in two decades. The squats became more popular after they were cancelled. People just like to complain about stuff they cant have as well. Then you also have the faction of forumites that are looking for ANY reason to complain about GW.
There are SoB fans though and they are very outspoken so what they dont have in numbers they have in persistence.
MarsNZ wrote: Never understood all the Sisters hype. I was there when they came out in 2e, they added very little to the game even back then.
It is the "Dead Has Been Star" effect.
When Elvis died it was his best career move in two decades. The squats became more popular after they were cancelled. People just like to complain about stuff they cant have as well. Then you also have the faction of forumites that are looking for ANY reason to complain about GW.
There are SoB fans though and they are very outspoken so what they dont have in numbers they have in persistence.
Or, you know, people geniunely like the army and would like it to get some more attention?
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2013/06/06 11:31:55
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
MarsNZ wrote: Never understood all the Sisters hype. I was there when they came out in 2e, they added very little to the game even back then.
It is the "Dead Has Been Star" effect.
When Elvis died it was his best career move in two decades. The squats became more popular after they were cancelled. People just like to complain about stuff they cant have as well. Then you also have the faction of forumites that are looking for ANY reason to complain about GW.
There are SoB fans though and they are very outspoken so what they dont have in numbers they have in persistence.
Or, you know, people geniunely like the army and would like it to get some more attention?
Or, you know, you could read the last sentence of the post you just quoted.
MarsNZ wrote: Never understood all the Sisters hype. I was there when they came out in 2e, they added very little to the game even back then.
It is the "Dead Has Been Star" effect.
When Elvis died it was his best career move in two decades. The squats became more popular after they were cancelled. People just like to complain about stuff they cant have as well. Then you also have the faction of forumites that are looking for ANY reason to complain about GW.
There are SoB fans though and they are very outspoken so what they dont have in numbers they have in persistence.
Or, you know, people geniunely like the army and would like it to get some more attention?
Or, you know, you could read the last sentence of the post you just quoted.
I was referring more to your second line, actually. You wrote off people complaining about the SoB as simply enjoying complaining. Unless you're a mind-reader, you can't state that as a fact.
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2013/06/06 11:54:13
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?
It has 3 total miniatures. The SoB range is quite small, but it's an order of magnitude bigger than that.
"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2013/06/06 14:43:00
Subject: Where the frak are the plastic Sisters of Battle?