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 Zweischneid wrote:
Funny how all those "rumours" about Space Marines getting supplement Codexes only start dropping after we've seen the Iyanden book.

Surely, if someone had this kind of info, it would've made sense to spill that 3 weeks ago and immortalize yourself forever as the go-to rumour-monger.

If I knew about this three weeks ago, I would have posted about it.

Also having not seen a Contemptor for a scale reference, I would think that the ubernought as you put it is the Contemptor GW style.

 catharsix wrote:
Why update the old stuff, bringing it up to speed with the better designed somewhat newer stuff, when you can just nerf everything that people already own to force them to buy the shiny new
*snip*

-C6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYTc55nGEI


They didn't do that to eldar, they didn't do that to tau, they didn't do that to DA, and they only kind of did that to CSM (but in that case, the 'must have 100' of thing comes in the starter box and is already to be had on ebay for under a quarter a model.

This just in, the new dread knight is so large it fits two pilots, one dead, the other a close friend, alive, bound by rage from his fallen brother and so cries when he isnt near him so they bung em both in a dread knight suit.

 catharsix wrote:
If they had him working on more stuff, even just a little, I couldn't help myself from buying almost anything he was associated with. But instead we get the Maulerfiend, Heldrake, and WHERE ARE THE NEW ELDAR JETBIKES?

Well, supposedly he was responsible for the heldrake. I don't know if he sculpted it but I recall someone saying he designed it.

So if that's true then having Jes oversee a project won't even save you from stupid-looking models. Speaking of stupid models I think he was also responsible for the XV8 crisis suits and not only are they silly-looking, but they're easily one of the worst plastic kits I've ever assembled.

Even though I would like to get me hands on a massive dread type thing I do find it hard to justify the need for contemptors or normal dreads now that these things would be established in the fluff.

Puscifer wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Funny how all those "rumours" about Space Marines getting supplement Codexes only start dropping after we've seen the Iyanden book.

Surely, if someone had this kind of info, it would've made sense to spill that 3 weeks ago and immortalize yourself forever as the go-to rumour-monger.

If I knew about this three weeks ago, I would have posted about it.

Also having not seen a Contemptor for a scale reference, I would think that the ubernought as you put it is the Contemptor GW style.

I don't think I coined the term "ubernought". And I would highly doubt it has anything to do with the Contemptor. People keep bringing up the idea of porting things from Forge World into GW-main releases every single Codex release, and it never happens (luckily, I might add, cause I find most of the Forge World stuff to be rather underwhelming, including the Contemptors).

But yeah, whatever the next Codex(es) is(are) going to be, it'll have

a) a large Walker
b) two Flyers
c) one or more Supplement Codexes
d) a new Elite unit created by turning an existing non-Plastic unit into a multi-purpose plastic-kit
e) 50-60% chance of a new single HQ/Character kit in plastic in-line with the Aspiring Champion/Fireblade/Farseer
f) Codex covers are going to be close-ups of iconic units/HQ choices (e.g. White Scars, if they do it, would be a Bike, Ravenguard would be a Jump Pack Marine, Templars would be a Champion or Sword Brethren, etc... )

Also, the basic Tactical Space Marines will move to a box of 5 instead of 10.

Doesn't take "rumours" to know this will be in the pipeline for the next few Codexes. Quite the opposite. It would take "rumours" and/or inside information to say the next Codex will deviate from this release template.

Oh yeah I wonder what the single plastic fig will be?
I am ruling out a captain snce it is a very customiseable kit already so I am going to bet on a librarian or chaplain.

I want Blood Ravens!!!!!

For plastic fig, my money is on either Libby, Chappy or Terminator Captain.

As for the Tac squad, yup... box of five is a strong possibility.

Of course they will make the basic tactical marine box twice as expensive...have to milk us for all we have hahaa.

The Space Marine tactical box has been the core gateway product of the whole 40K range since its inception (besidesthe box game of course). They have probably sold more than any other model in the history of GW and for a reasonable price.

If they take the 'Dire Avenger' route it will certainly be an erm...'brave' move on the part of GW.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Doesn't take "rumours" to know this will be in the pipeline for the next few Codexes. Quite the opposite. It would take "rumours" and/or inside information to say the next Codex will deviate from this release template.

Whoa, someone else can extrapolate from past releases. I am no longer alone.

 Zweischneid wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Funny how all those "rumours" about Space Marines getting supplement Codexes only start dropping after we've seen the Iyanden book.

Surely, if someone had this kind of info, it would've made sense to spill that 3 weeks ago and immortalize yourself forever as the go-to rumour-monger.

If I knew about this three weeks ago, I would have posted about it.

Also having not seen a Contemptor for a scale reference, I would think that the ubernought as you put it is the Contemptor GW style.

I don't think I coined the term "ubernought". And I would highly doubt it has anything to do with the Contemptor. People keep bringing up the idea of porting things from Forge World into GW-main releases every single Codex release, and it never happens (luckily, I might add, cause I find most of the Forge World stuff to be rather underwhelming, including the Contemptors).

But yeah, whatever the next Codex(es) is(are) going to be, it'll have

a) a large Walker
b) two Flyers
c) one or more Supplement Codexes
d) a new Elite unit created by turning an existing non-Plastic unit into a multi-purpose plastic-kit
e) 50-60% chance of a new single HQ/Character kit in plastic in-line with the Aspiring Champion/Fireblade/Farseer
f) Codex covers are going to be close-ups of iconic units/HQ choices (e.g. White Scars, if they do it, would be a Bike, Ravenguard would be a Jump Pack Marine, Templars would be a Champion or Sword Brethren, etc... )

Also, the basic Tactical Space Marines will move to a box of 5 instead of 10.

Doesn't take "rumours" to know this will be in the pipeline for the next few Codexes. Quite the opposite. It would take "rumours" and/or inside information to say the next Codex will deviate from this release template.

Add him to the list Pretre!

I hope they put a dreadnought inside a bigger dreadnought, slap an oval base on it and charge us 100$

Cypher-xv wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
What about the Thunderhawk with spring-loaded missiles?

We already have a chibi version. It's called the stormraven or stormturkey by some.lol

The sad thing here is that I was being bloody serious... :(

I hope it's called a Stormknight.

 Kirasu wrote:
I hope they put a dreadnought inside a bigger dreadnought, slap an oval base on it and charge us 100$

It will be a DreadKnight-style baby carrier, but for a Dreadnought! It will be called the DreadKnightNought, and will cost $120.

As much as I'm excited as a Marine collector since the RTB01 days, the emphasis of the past few releases has me cringing at what they're going to try to pass off this time. Thankfully I don't have any model budget left to spend on anything less than fantastic, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe for a while.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope it's called a Stormknight.

I think nearly all bad-weather conditions are fair game for Vanilla Marines

Storm-
Tornado-
Lighting-
Thunder-
Whirlwind-
Tempest-
Typhoon-
Hurricane-

etc...

You do run out after a while though

Rain
Sleet
Snow
Windy
Nippy

 Malika2 wrote:

Cypher-xv wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
What about the Thunderhawk with spring-loaded missiles?

We already have a chibi version. It's called the stormraven or stormturkey by some.lol

The sad thing here is that I was being bloody serious... :(

Until then, have fun with this dropship by Angry Badger (soon to be released):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/505137.page

 Zweischneid wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope it's called a Stormknight.

I think nearly all bad-weather conditions are fair game for Vanilla Marines

Storm-
Tornado-
Lighting-
Thunder-
Whirlwind-
Tempest-
Typhoon-
Hurricane-

etc...

Exactly. I mean, Stormknight is about as lazy as Wraithknight when it comes to names, but at least it fits with Marine nomenclature as you say.

Thunderknight sounds silly. All the rest sound worse. Stormknight works though, for some reason.

What, like 3rd edition and its Ultramarines, etc codexes that required another book to use?

In 1998 in the US the main 3rd Edition Codex Space Marines was $15 and the Space Wolves and Dark Angels add-on books were $10 each. So it cost a total of $25 to run a non-Codex chapter with its own supplemental Codex. Those were all very slim books deliberately designed to be economically priced, but fans clamored for a return to thicker books with more background material, so 4th Edition returned to more substantial books that started at $20 US when first released and that eventually increased to $33 before the change to hard back books.

Now it is 15 years since the start of 3rd Edition and we'd expect it to cost more now, especially since 3rd Edition had those ultra slim Codex books, However, $49.50 per Codex (and Army) book is fairly steep and the idea that the add-on books for specific Chapters, Craftworlds, Ork Clans, etc. will essentially double that cost will not be an easy sell for a lot of customers. Codex Iyanden consists of very few pages of essential game rules, the rest is background and artwork.

While it's true that much of GW's competition is now charging similar prices for rule books I am again wondering as to whether or not GW is concerned about actually growing rather than shrinking their existing customer base. They've already lost a lot to other systems and hobbies and the price increases of the past two years haven't helped. Some of their current model prices are absurd. They can't succeed long-term if their customer base keeps shrinking. And when one person leaves the GW hobby their friends often follow, further eroding the customer base. This is not a good sustainable situation for GW or its remaining customers.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Exactly. I mean, Stormknight is about as lazy as Wraithknight when it comes to names, but at least it fits with Marine nomenclature as you say.

Thunderknight sounds silly. All the rest sound worse. Stormknight works though, for some reason.

But Privateer kinda has that one in the bag.

I like Tempestknight. Gives nice Google Search Results. Nippyknight is a strong favourite too . I'll probably call mine Nippy the Tempest Knight!

Well Nippy can fight my Khornemower, Lord Skullington Wexford the Third.

I am still calling BT as first supplement book.

I find UM and IF books laughable as they are strictest adherents to the Codex Astartes there are. What possible deviations would they invent to justify them getting supplements?

Puscifer wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Funny how all those "rumours" about Space Marines getting supplement Codexes only start dropping after we've seen the Iyanden book.

Surely, if someone had this kind of info, it would've made sense to spill that 3 weeks ago and immortalize yourself forever as the go-to rumour-monger.

If I knew about this three weeks ago, I would have posted about it.

Also having not seen a Contemptor for a scale reference, I would think that the ubernought as you put it is the Contemptor GW style.

Scale picture below. I'm not sure what the ubernought is a reference to, but I would think something entirely different. Cannibalizing one of FW's better sellers doesn't seem like a good idea.

 SickSix wrote:
I am still calling BT as first supplement book.

I find UM and IF books laughable as they are strictest adherents to the Codex Astartes there are. What possible deviations would they invent to justify them getting supplements?

Why couldn't the BT come in the IF book? They are a branch of the IF, same as the CFs, and I think I'd actually enjoy having a "Sons of Dorn" supplement book. The book could be broken down into sections outlining each group and giving the necessary units and characters in each of the three sections. I'm a BT fan, but a Sons of Dorn supplement would be a dream for me. Yes, I realize they play differently, but it would be doable, get the BT brought up to speed while not actually putting them in the "space marine codex", as GW said they weren't doing. It's a win win, honestly, I don't see a loss doing it this way.

 SickSix wrote:
I am still calling BT as first supplement book.

I find UM and IF books laughable as they are strictest adherents to the Codex Astartes there are. What possible deviations would they invent to justify them getting supplements?

How about... 1 psychic power, a new warlord table and a half-dozen chapter specific relics?

As I play Black Templars and Crimson Fists, I'd totally buy a Sons of Dorn supplement.

Limited Edition, even.

A sons of Dorn supplement could have a BT list then characters, fluff and equipment for all three.