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 shamikebab wrote:
A sons of Dorn supplement could have a BT list then characters, fluff and equipment for all three.

Sarpedon and his boys feel lonely. They want in too!

I have nothing to say but "Meh". Everybody gets a giant model is lame. Why is Forgeworld so, so much better than regular GW?

 kronk wrote:

Puscifer wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Funny how all those "rumours" about Space Marines getting supplement Codexes only start dropping after we've seen the Iyanden book.

Surely, if someone had this kind of info, it would've made sense to spill that 3 weeks ago and immortalize yourself forever as the go-to rumour-monger.

If I knew about this three weeks ago, I would have posted about it.

Also having not seen a Contemptor for a scale reference, I would think that the ubernought as you put it is the Contemptor GW style.

Scale picture below. I'm not sure what the ubernought is a reference to, but I would think something entirely different. Cannibalizing one of FW's better sellers doesn't seem like a good idea.

Ahhhh thanks for that.

Tbh, I think a bigger version would look awesome.

I don't care much for it's arms though.

 Alpharius wrote:

Add him to the list Pretre!

Speculation.

I'm going to add Puscifer though since he is posting it as rumors.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
I am still calling BT as first supplement book.

I find UM and IF books laughable as they are strictest adherents to the Codex Astartes there are. What possible deviations would they invent to justify them getting supplements?

Why couldn't the BT come in the IF book? They are a branch of the IF, same as the CFs, and I think I'd actually enjoy having a "Sons of Dorn" supplement book. The book could be broken down into sections outlining each group and giving the necessary units and characters in each of the three sections. I'm a BT fan, but a Sons of Dorn supplement would be a dream for me. Yes, I realize they play differently, but it would be doable, get the BT brought up to speed while not actually putting them in the "space marine codex", as GW said they weren't doing. It's a win win, honestly, I don't see a loss doing it this way.

if they do it like that, basically First Founding books that also include notable successors, that would be cool.

But Salamanders and IH need books of their own as well.

Ultramarines really, really shouldn't get a supplement. They are the original codex chapter for goodness sake.

 BryllCream wrote:
Ultramarines really, really shouldn't get a supplement. They are the original codex chapter for goodness sake.

Did you miss the part where he said that Codex: SM was going to be generic for all marines? So UM will get a supplement to add in their special sauce...

In regards to the 5-man tactical squad boxes, we already have those (albeit as those snap-fit types) http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440273a&prodId=prod1060075

They're currently £15.50 to the 10-man's £23. Maybe we'll see the 10-man box bumped to £30-ish?
Glad I bought all mine already in any case.
If we get another baby-carrier, I'll be proxying a Contemptor instead I think. I do hope we get a box of vanguard vets (and that they get made viable), however.
I'd also like to see apothecaries return as SC.

 Flood wrote:
In regards to the 5-man tactical squad boxes, we already have those (albeit as those snap-fit types) http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440273a&prodId=prod1060075

They're currently £15.50 to the 10-man's £23. Maybe we'll see the 10-man box bumped to £30-ish?
Glad I bought all mine already in any case.
If we get another baby-carrier, I'll be proxying a Contemptor instead I think. I do hope we get a box of vanguard vets (and that they get made viable), however.

Those aren't snap-fits.

No? I stand corrected then.

 pretre wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Ultramarines really, really shouldn't get a supplement. They are the original codex chapter for goodness sake.

Did you miss the part where he said that Codex: SM was going to be generic for all marines? So UM will get a supplement to add in their special sauce...

I think that is the point he is trying to make. Apart from special characters and the Tyranid Hunter unit (who could easily be represented by Sternguard with Preferred Enemy:Tyranids), Ultramarines don't really have any special sauce. They are the definition of a codex chapter.

As for the supplements, I am all for them but I think they should combine more than one chapter/legion/craftworld into each book. You don't really need pages and pages of background for a sub faction when they will probably have a pretty decent outline of their history in the main codex anyway (Codex Eldar gives you all the info about Iyanden's background you really need imo).

I will likely pick up the Biel Tan supplement if they do one though as my Eldar army has a lot of aspect warriors in it.

 rohansoldier wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
Ultramarines really, really shouldn't get a supplement. They are the original codex chapter for goodness sake.

Did you miss the part where he said that Codex: SM was going to be generic for all marines? So UM will get a supplement to add in their special sauce...

I think that is the point he is trying to make. Apart from special characters and the Tyranid Hunter unit (who could easily be represented by Sternguard with Preferred Enemy:Tyranids), Ultramarines don't really have any special sauce. They are the definition of a codex chapter.

Why would that stop them from making a supplement?

These are the snap fit Space Marines.

I'm hopeful that there won't be a mega dreadnought in a baby carrier, but I guess we'll see.

Yeah, I think they would have to murder the UM fluff to give them any kind of 'special sauce'. But as we have seen, GW is great at murdering fluff.

I hope for a plastic stern/vanguard combo kit, and a plastic terminator character kit (captain/chappy/libby). Hell I would love a plastic combo kit for PA chappy/libby.

 SickSix wrote:
Yeah, I think they would have to murder the UM fluff to give them any kind of 'special sauce'. But as we have seen, GW is great at murdering fluff.

I hope for a plastic stern/vanguard combo kit, and a plastic terminator character kit (captain/chappy/libby). Hell I would love a plastic combo kit for PA chappy/libby.

A versatile Terminator character kit might actually get me to buy something.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Well Nippy can fight my Khornemower, Lord Skullington Wexford the Third.

Shouldn't that be Lord Skullington Wexford the Fourth, Eighth or Sixteenth?

Zweischneid wrote: Sarpedon and his boys feel lonely. They want in too!

If only they were still Sons of Dorn.. Too bad they are not.

I'd like to see new SM Bikes.

It's too old and with White Scars being first, I'd say it's probable.

But I just found an amazing painting guide for Ultramarines done in metallics. Going to test it on a commander first to see if I can match or better the quality.

If the Marines get new bikes while Eldar are saddled with the 90's Jetbikes then there is no justice in the world....

I'll laugh if the new Space Marine codex gets unique psychic powers when the DA's didn't. It would speak to the level of how all first codexes from a new edition always get overshadowed by following releases...and the cycle continues...

The DA got 1 unique power, though. The one their master Librarian can take.

Other than Eldar, most of the Codex-Specific Psychic Powers are on par with or worse than the BRB powers, so I don't see this as a big deal, personally.

When was the last time Games Workshop replaced an existing plastic kit for Warhammer 40K, such as Space Marine bikes, with a new plastic kit?

They did with the Dark Eldar, didn't they?

 SickSix wrote:
Yeah, I think they would have to murder the UM fluff to give them any kind of 'special sauce'. But as we have seen, GW is great at murdering fluff.

I hope for a plastic stern/vanguard combo kit, and a plastic terminator character kit (captain/chappy/libby). Hell I would love a plastic combo kit for PA chappy/libby.

How about actually restricting them from doing certain things but giving some kind of competence bonus (or whatever...) for über-codex-astartes-compliance? I could kind of see that work.
Of course stuff like the tirannic war veterans will go right into that UM expansion as well as any specific characters - and I don't think a different warlord trait table would murder their fluff all too brutally?

edit @ Zwei
they retooled the tac squad with more options and completely different sprue layouts.

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
They did with the Dark Eldar, didn't they?

They did, although those were baaaaaaadddd kits.

...And you'd say the SM bike has withstood the test of time acceptably?

 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
They did with the Dark Eldar, didn't they?

Yes, so the answer is technically 2.5 years ago if memory serves.

However, that was also a wholesale revamp of the entire range; I think maybe Drazhar and the "Dark Eldar Prisoners" were the only portions to be carried forward and I'm not even sure of them.

Since then I'm not really recalling them doing anything of a re-vamp of plastic; it's been moving from FineCast to plastic and/or new units. Now, if any line would get such a thing now, it'd probably be the Space Marines, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

 Bolognesus wrote:
...And you'd say the SM bike has withstood the test of time acceptably?

Yep.

 pretre wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
...And you'd say the SM bike has withstood the test of time acceptably?

Yep.

...Zoinks. Takes all kinds, I guess

I rather like the basic space marine kit.

Easy to assemble, you can add other shoulder pads, works with the devastator, assault marine, and other kits just fine.

I'm into the HH kits from FW now, though. Sigh...

 Krinsath wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I hope they put a dreadnought inside a bigger dreadnought, slap an oval base on it and charge us 100$

It will be a DreadKnight-style baby carrier, but for a Dreadnought! It will be called the DreadKnightNought, and will cost $120.

As much as I'm excited as a Marine collector since the RTB01 days, the emphasis of the past few releases has me cringing at what they're going to try to pass off this time. Thankfully I don't have any model budget left to spend on anything less than fantastic, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe for a while.

Dreadnought of course needs to be purchased separately.....