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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:23:53
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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To my surprise, the Biker kit actually has been quarter-assedly redone. The early kit had a solid torso and head, when they redid it in 3rd/4th edition, they added a split torso usable by normal marines.
Would it be, theoretically likely, for GW to do something like. Drop the 10 man tactical squad, increase the 5 man to 20 quid, but then add in the command sprue?
A sort of more subtle price hike. - We're giving you less stuff, but it's slightly cheaper!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:26:57
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Wing Commander
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kronk wrote:I rather like the basic space marine kit.
Easy to assemble, you can add other shoulder pads, works with the devastator, assault marine, and other kits just fine.
I'm into the HH kits from FW now, though. Sigh...
It is getting long in the tooth though; really bad mold lines, lots of detail blurring, etc. I love the interchangability between the Marine lines (Making my Franken-Honour Guard was quite enjoyable) but the molds need to be replaced and some design tweaking wouldn't be bad for a number of their kits. Terminators in particular have crappy poses, and little detail. I got some for free, and looking at them closely, I'd never pay $10 a model for them.
Marines are the oldest plastic line in production aren't they? It's basically them and Cadians which are about as old as plastic comes, and many of the designs haven't aged well.
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Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:30:09
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm not against new ones, mind you. Not at all, actually.
I'm just saying that they've held up fairly well. I haven't run into any increased mold line issues, though. They've been about the same as I've had in the past. Some of the Chaos Space Marines (basic CSM kit) I've done recently were horrible. If you've had some like those, I understand your point completely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:34:51
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Aren't the Catachans older than the Cadians?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:37:05
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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SickSix wrote:Yeah, I think they would have to murder the UM fluff to give them any kind of 'special sauce'.
There's no special sauce in Iyanden, so I don't see why you think there would be any in Ultramarines. Having a few chapter relics isn't being non-codex, it's having a history.
Tho, for the record, I am against supplemental books.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:42:23
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Yes, by more than a few years as I recall them being the only plastic guard for a long time.. The Eldar Guardians I don't believe have been drastically redesigned any more than the Space Marines. Not sure when the Ork Boyz came out, but they're up there as well. The Tyranid warriors and gaunts are over a decade as well.
Most of the armies had their basic troops in plastic before 2003 or so; some have held up reasonably well (Tyranid Warriors still look cool IMO) and others not so much (Necron warriors look cool on their own, but don't seem to mesh with the overall look anymore).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 18:52:56
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Dakka Veteran
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starting to feel this ed of 40k is becoming Mechhammer.. DISLIKE
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The Imperium of Man is able to traverse the Warp with difficulty when their Emperor concentrates from his golden life support machine and lights the way. Unfortunately, because the Emperor has the attention span of the average 5-year-old Pokemon fanboy, this means that many an unfortunate Imperial ship has had the WTF WHERE'D THE LIGHTS GO experience, which in the Warp is invariably fatal. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:01:37
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Do you mean MonstrousCreatureHammer?
Because I've been led to believe it most definitely is NOT Mechhammer?
Unless my definition (lots of transport vehicles) is different than yours?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:03:27
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yeah, 5th was mechhammer. 6th is Flyer/MC hammer.
Heh. MC Hammer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:04:39
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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5th was "My Black Templars are walking, thank you very much" hammer.
6th will be the same when they give me a new codex or suppliment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:07:48
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Fresh-Faced New User
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All I want to see is SOUL DRINKERS Rules....
i.e Sarpedon with "The Hell" rules
Tellos = indestructible berserker
Greavus = wields Power Axe at normal Init.
Lygris = some awesome Techmarine power would be tits!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:08:05
Subject: Re:New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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I think it's supposed to be "mech" as in "mecha".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:19:19
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Dakka Veteran
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I don't have any special sources or anything. and these are my own speculation, so take it as you will:
Space Marines will see the same point cost reduction that was in Codex Dark Angels, with the exception of perhaps seeing the point cost of the flyers increased to be "on par" with the points costs of other 6th ed fliers.
I don't think they are going to make Dreadnoughts, or any sort of super dreadnought monstrous creature, because frankly, Dark Angels didn't get one.
I HOPE LIKE HECK: that the new vanilla codex doesn't totally negate any reasons to continue to play my Dark Angels.
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:23:40
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They won't. You have troop terminators, bikes with twin-linked plasma, and some other nifty gismos that Space Marines won't be getting. I'm not entirely certain that C: SM will keep bike troops with a bike captain, but we'll see. I agree with you on the point reduction. I'm betting that the C: SM Tactical squads will nearly be a copy/paste.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:24:37
Subject: Re:New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Primered White
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pretre wrote:So UM will get a supplement to add in their special sauce...
Their special sauce is catsup
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:25:51
Subject: Re:New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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If I see those ultramarines get a supplement before us, there will be the iron price to pay.
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Fury from faith
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:29:08
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nah. There are more UM players than Black Templar players. I have no problem with that.
<--- BT player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:42:48
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I actually really hope they don't introduce much in the way of new units. I feel like the number units in the Space Marine codex is pretty far-reaching, and I'd rather not see some arbitrary new stuff added just for the sake of it. Sure, if there's a new artillery piece to go with the Thunderfire Cannon for a dual plastic kit or whatever, that'll be fine, I just don't want to see some new giant robot or second flier for Marines. I just want updated rules and a new Predator kit with decent sponsons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:49:47
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Remember, Marines will already end up with 2 flyers in their codex without adding any new models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 20:06:17
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Compel wrote:Remember, Marines will already end up with 2 flyers in their codex without adding any new models.
Hah, you're right! I always forget about the Stormraven. Just proves my point that we don't need another flyer dualkit!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 20:36:14
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Brother SRM wrote:Hah, you're right! I always forget about the Stormraven. Just proves my point that we don't need another flyer dualkit!
GW releases are not about our needs, they are about their needs, and they need a big expensive kit, so that the few customers left will bring as much revenue as double the number of customers a few years ago
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 20:44:39
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kroothawk wrote: Brother SRM wrote:Hah, you're right! I always forget about the Stormraven. Just proves my point that we don't need another flyer dualkit!
GW releases are not about our needs, they are about their needs, and they need a big expensive kit, so that the few customers left will bring as much revenue as double the number of customers a few years ago 
Hence why they won't release new troop sculpts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:07:16
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Krinsath wrote:It will be a DreadKnight-style baby carrier, but for a Dreadnought! It will be called the DreadKnightNought, and will cost $120.
I think DreadKnightNought deserved an exalt.
5 man Space Marine boxes seems likely imo.
Also, this new thing where they now excise 20% of the codex and sell it as a separate supplement is just amazing.
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Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:18:29
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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DE Wyches/Warriors, Necrons Immortals, GK strikes and Terms, DA from DV tacs, terms and bikes. Chaos from DV 'chosen'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:32:44
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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pretre wrote:
DE Wyches/Warriors, Necrons Immortals, GK strikes and Terms, DA from DV tacs, terms and bikes. Chaos from DV 'chosen'.
These are all different. Dark Eldar sculpts were never going to sell as they were, Necron Immortals and Grey Knights of all flavors were metal before, and what's in the starter set isn't the same as a multipart troop kit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:35:20
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Psychic Novitiate selected by a Gatherer
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Let's not forget that codexes were only £12 about 4 years ago...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:35:56
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Brother SRM wrote: pretre wrote:
DE Wyches/Warriors, Necrons Immortals, GK strikes and Terms, DA from DV tacs, terms and bikes. Chaos from DV 'chosen'.
These are all different. Dark Eldar sculpts were never going to sell as they were, Necron Immortals and Grey Knights of all flavors were metal before, and what's in the starter set isn't the same as a multipart troop kit.
So under those criteria, other than SOB, who still needs a troop kit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:42:15
Subject: Re:New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Been Around the Block
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Just on the rumour of the potential of being 5 man tactical squads, and 5 man space marine boxes, nearly all 40k troop and squad choices are boxes of 5, especially if they are elite units. Also, the only non 5 man space marine box is the 10 man tactical box, which I doubt GW will get rid off, after all it is probably one of their biggest sellers.
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Who needs Grey Knights when you've got Deathwing Terminators!
Terminators don't kill people, people controlling the terminators do! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 21:49:14
Subject: New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Sorry that couldn't be said without this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo Automatically Appended Next Post: Brother SRM wrote:I actually really hope they don't introduce much in the way of new units. I feel like the number units in the Space Marine codex is pretty far-reaching, and I'd rather not see some arbitrary new stuff added just for the sake of it. Sure, if there's a new artillery piece to go with the Thunderfire Cannon for a dual plastic kit or whatever, that'll be fine, I just don't want to see some new giant robot or second flier for Marines. I just want updated rules and a new Predator kit with decent sponsons. This. However with a November release I couldn't realistically think that GW would be OK with this. There will be new units I just hope they are sensible ones. Not a giant mech for the sake of it or another SM flyer. They could always create new bikes but I doubt that too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 22:12:42
Subject: Re:New Space Marine Codex Rumours
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Ian Pickstock
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pretre wrote: BryllCream wrote:Ultramarines really, really shouldn't get a supplement. They are the original codex chapter for goodness sake.
Did you miss the part where he said that Codex: SM was going to be generic for all marines? So UM will get a supplement to add in their special sauce...
Ultramarines are generic space marines, there is nothing special about them.
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