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 Carnage43 wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Whoa now!

Why in the hell would Legion of the Damned be out?

Who is saying this or are you just talking out of your arse?

Just my guess at what we are likely to see in the new book. LotD have been so laughably irrelevant for so long they are basically a waste of paper to keep printing the same crap. I could see a "Cursed Founding" supplement maybe for them and a few other chapters, but they really have no use or place in the vanilla marine book.

They have models, meaning they'll most definitely stick around and likely get a complete overhaul in terms of their rules.

 Crimson wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
What, like 3rd edition and its Ultramarines, etc codexes that required another book to use?

Yes. At $50 US each. You want a White Scars army? Get ready to drop $100.

Iyanden supplement was not the same price as the codex. It may still be too expensive, but at least get your facts straight. I've seen codex price supplement repeated so many times that it seems that most people actually believe that this is the case.

Um...yes it was?

Codex: Eldar http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440161a&prodId=prod2060036a

Iyanden Supplement http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440161a&prodId=prod2100012a

Both the same price.

My one greatest hope is that Apothecary's get made elite like the blood angels sanguinary priests. Giving feel no pain to the squad and near by units. i thinks its silly in the currant rules for what is knda the space marine medic only tends to the command squad while his poor battle bros are getting torn up around him.

Also this rumour about a big dreadnought type of miniature, i think it would be cool if it where some sort of adeptus mechanicus construct instead to being piloted by a marine. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111026164232/warhammer40k/images/f/ff/Post-4-1241578053.jpg

I can only hope

 prpetros wrote:
My one greatest hope is that Apothecary's get made elite like the blood angels sanguinary priests. Giving feel no pain to the squad and near by units. i thinks its silly in the currant rules for what is knda the space marine medic only tends to the command squad while his poor battle bros are getting torn up around him.

Also this rumour about a big dreadnought type of miniature, i think it would be cool if it where some sort of adeptus mechanicus construct instead to being piloted by a marine. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111026164232/warhammer40k/images/f/ff/Post-4-1241578053.jpg

I can only hope

Agree. Also what do people think of a nice fluffy and useful 10th company HQ? I know some characters give infiltrate etc to a unit and it is entirely possible to field a scout army but I mean a nice 10th company HQ that really makes scouts shine.

I don't mind Ward, I can do this:


I'm hoping to see some interesting chapter rules.

 prpetros wrote:
My one greatest hope is that Apothecary's get made elite like the blood angels sanguinary priests. Giving feel no pain to the squad and near by units. i thinks its silly in the currant rules for what is knda the space marine medic only tends to the command squad while his poor battle bros are getting torn up around him.

Also this rumour about a big dreadnought type of miniature, i think it would be cool if it where some sort of adeptus mechanicus construct instead to being piloted by a marine. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111026164232/warhammer40k/images/f/ff/Post-4-1241578053.jpg

I can only hope

Anything is possible, The First Heretic (I believe that's the one) had a Mechanicus mech that was an honorary member of the Word Bearers.

New news from Faeit:

natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/space-marine-codex-rumors-rhino.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Faeit212+(Faeit+212)&m=1

I think you were looking more for something like this:

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/space-marine-codex-rumors-rhino.html

via The Emperor Himself on Warseer
Some info regarding the upcoming Space Marine Codex. Rhino variants to include a command Rhino, a medic Rhino and an armoured recovery Rhino. Each of these can be purchased as upgrades for the basic Rhino and provide enhancements to their Space Marine squad. Dreadnoughts to provide bonuses to nearby units owing to their 'Inspiring Presence'. These developments are inline with the design philosophy behind the new Codex to promote synergies between units to increase the tactical depth of Space Marines.

That's be kinda neat. Assuming it's done well it'd give you a reason to take Rhinoes again. The Armoured Recovery Rhino sounds like it'd be AV13 front as well.

Id love the idea of a rhino I can park behind an ADL to give an AOE FNP

 pretre wrote:
I think you were looking more for something like this:

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/space-marine-codex-rumors-rhino.html

via The Emperor Himself on Warseer
Some info regarding the upcoming Space Marine Codex. Rhino variants to include a command Rhino, a medic Rhino and an armoured recovery Rhino. Each of these can be purchased as upgrades for the basic Rhino and provide enhancements to their Space Marine squad. Dreadnoughts to provide bonuses to nearby units owing to their 'Inspiring Presence'. These developments are inline with the design philosophy behind the new Codex to promote synergies between units to increase the tactical depth of Space Marines.

I can already hear the lamentations of despair from every single DA player if this turns out to be true...

Experiment 626 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I think you were looking more for something like this:

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/space-marine-codex-rumors-rhino.html

via The Emperor Himself on Warseer
Some info regarding the upcoming Space Marine Codex. Rhino variants to include a command Rhino, a medic Rhino and an armoured recovery Rhino. Each of these can be purchased as upgrades for the basic Rhino and provide enhancements to their Space Marine squad. Dreadnoughts to provide bonuses to nearby units owing to their 'Inspiring Presence'. These developments are inline with the design philosophy behind the new Codex to promote synergies between units to increase the tactical depth of Space Marines.

I can already hear the lamentations of despair from every single DA player if this turns out to be true...

Yeah, I kind of feel a little bad for DA players if this turns out to be true. I guess this will be another way to distinquish Codex compliant marines from the others. Its not like Codex Marines will get termies as troops or those plasma blasters on bikes anyway.

So ok...rumors aside people are talking about their wish lists. Thought I'd post mine. #1: BRING BACK BUILD YOUR OWN CHAPTER!!! lol... no really though. #2: artillery... seriously. You cant claim to be tactical gods without it, and no....that miserable excuse of indirect called the "whirlwind" IS NOT artillery. #3: a decent flyer that is worth it's points ( I feel the Raven is WAY over priced when compared to the other flyers. The Raven IS cool yes, but double or more than everyone else's flyer). That's pretty much it. On a flip wish / want I could ask GW to stop exploiting their customer base. Resin is cheap but fine cast costs more. I don't get it, but its shameful that the cast quality took a dive with it....but that's ok...GW will release a product called "liquid resin" so that you can fix their quality control issues and out of added expense to your own pocket no less. Lastly stop with the "expansion" codexes. People don't want to haul a library around to play their army. Put it ONE book. I know you can afford to do that. Instead of writing expansion to new codices, how about getting some of the ancient codices redone like SISTERS OF BATTLE. I don't play them personally, but I have friends that do. They have beautiful armies of them and cant play them cause they just don't have the rule base to sustain. Claiming White Dwarf put out rules over the course of 3 issues is a cop out. ...There my rant is done. For those who read on, thanks for putting up with me.

Heath.Korinek wrote:
So ok...rumors aside people are talking about their wish lists. Thought I'd post mine. #1: BRING BACK BUILD YOUR OWN CHAPTER!!! lol... no really though.

If they do they'll just ruin it and every one will take the same traits because they'll be the only ones worth taking.

#2: artillery... seriously. You cant claim to be tactical gods without it, and no....that miserable excuse of indirect called the "whirlwind" IS NOT artillery.

Artillery is for Guard. Marines have no use for such things. That's why they have the Whirlwind. Because it can keep up with the advancing marines.

#3: a decent flyer that is worth it's points ( I feel the Raven is WAY over priced when compared to the other flyers. The Raven IS cool yes, but double or more than everyone else's flyer). That's pretty much it.

Might happen but I doubt it.

On a flip wish / want I could ask GW to stop exploiting their customer base. Resin is cheap but fine cast costs more. I don't get it, but its shameful that the cast quality took a dive with it....but that's ok...GW will release a product called "liquid resin" so that you can fix their quality control issues and out of added expense to your own pocket no less.

Your hate for Failcast is better suited for a whining thread... not one about Space Marine rumors.

Lastly stop with the "expansion" codexes. People don't want to haul a library around to play their army. Put it ONE book.

Have you even seen the Eldar supplement? You don't need it to play Eldar. It's extra... like fancy dice or a glorified tape measurer.

Instead of writing expansion to new codices, how about getting some of the ancient codices redone like SISTERS OF BATTLE.

I'm sure you meant Orks or Black Templars. Sisters have new rules.

They have beautiful armies of them and cant play them cause they just don't have the rule base to sustain.

What does that even mean?

Claiming White Dwarf put out rules over the course of 3 issues is a cop out. ...

2 and it's not a cop out... it's fact.

Sisters have new rules

*applauds*

You can't buy those two WD's.
Only pirate them.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

Sisters have new rules

*applauds*

You can't buy those two WD's.
Only pirate them.

So? They still have rules.

Oh, and Ebay would like a word with you. And you can also call GW and they'll tell you all the rules.

 DeffDred wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

Sisters have new rules

*applauds*

You can't buy those two WD's.
Only pirate them.

So? They still have rules.

Oh, and Ebay would like a word with you. And you can also call GW and they'll tell you all the rules.

Gw giving stuff for free, yeah, right.

Yeah, they have new rules. Small chance of obtaining them through legal ways.
Just like Squats.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

Sisters have new rules

*applauds*

You can't buy those two WD's.
Only pirate them.

So? They still have rules.

Oh, and Ebay would like a word with you. And you can also call GW and they'll tell you all the rules.

Gw giving stuff for free, yeah, right.

Yeah, they have new rules. Small chance of obtaining them through legal ways.
Just like Squats.

Yes, free rules. You can read all about it in the "Where are my plastic sisters?" Thread.

Well, that's odd.

Heath.Korinek wrote:
So ok...rumors aside people are talking about their wish lists. Thought I'd post mine. #1: BRING BACK BUILD YOUR OWN CHAPTER!!! lol... no really though. #2: artillery... seriously. You cant claim to be tactical gods without it, and no....that miserable excuse of indirect called the "whirlwind" IS NOT artillery. #3: a decent flyer that is worth it's points ( I feel the Raven is WAY over priced when compared to the other flyers. The Raven IS cool yes, but double or more than everyone else's flyer). That's pretty much it.

#1: I agree, and I think there are a number of ways to do it right, but I'm kind of thinking GW will just save the special chapter traits for the supplemental books.

#2: I too would like some artillery, but not in the form of guard-style artillery, but more in the form of compact, mobile platforms like the TFC. Maybe some more gun options for the same chassis.

#3: The Stormraven is fine as it is. Compared to the other 6th edition fliers, its not overpriced at all. After all, its essentially a flying Landraider for fewer points. Along with the Stormtalon, the codex marines have the best flyer combo in the game if you ask me.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:

#1: I agree, and I think there are a number of ways to do it right, but I'm kind of thinking GW will just save the special chapter traits for the supplemental books.

This is my guess; Personally I would like to see Two or Three Special Character for each Major Chapter, especially the Founding Chapters. Say Three for each founding two for each of the successors.

#2: I too would like some artillery, but not in the form of guard-style artillery, but more in the form of compact, mobile platforms like the TFC. Maybe some more gun options for the same chassis.

I would like to see the return of Rapiers and Thud Guns. Maybe the Land Raider Aries.

#3: The Stormraven is fine as it is. Compared to the other 6th edition fliers, it’s not overpriced at all. After all, it’s essentially a flying Land Raider for fewer points. Along with the Storm Talon, the codex marines have the best flyer combo in the game if you ask me.

That has been my Experience.

I've been told Power Armor Marines are a thing of the past and Terminators can be cutdown by a hot knife thru butter.

Puscifer wrote:
You can't nerf a Marine Son.

They are the cornerstone of 40k.

As for Necrons being a solid release with good rules... JUST NO!!! I stopped playing Necrons because of the new rules. Broken beyond belief, the models were subpar and the fluff was all fist bumpy friendly BULL****!!!

Dark Eldar though, got it right.

That was my favourite release.

I'd only ever bought 1 dark elder model ever, never read any of their rules and didn't own the codex but the second that release appeared on the GW website I bought 5 incubi, 20 kabalites, 2 raiders, 10 wyches and an archon. Literally the minute I layed eyes in them. Never regretted it. It won't happen again until the plastic greater daemons finally come out.

 DeffDred wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

Sisters have new rules

*applauds*

You can't buy those two WD's.
Only pirate them.

So? They still have rules.

Oh, and Ebay would like a word with you. And you can also call GW and they'll tell you all the rules.

A shockingly limited codex that gives you little optimization and faith system only really works well in low cost games. I'll say this. SoB need a new codex the most. That and look at their fething models! They are all so old! I'll throw in saying Black Templar need an update (I'm expecting a supplement actually) and orks (which I have a feeling will be updated pretty soon)

Th/SS are probably going to be upped in cost. A generic flyer perhaps? Some pseudo termie/dreadnought as their iconic new unit. CC oriented perhaps?

 Anpu42 wrote:

#2: I too would like some artillery, but not in the form of guard-style artillery, but more in the form of compact, mobile platforms like the TFC. Maybe some more gun options for the same chassis.

I would like to see the return of Rapiers and Thud Guns. Maybe the Land Raider Aries.

The TFC is more or less a glorified Thudd Gun. I'd like to see the rapier or something like it make a return (the current rapier by FW is awful). I'd also like to see something truly nasty, like some form of blast template conversion beamer.

 pretre wrote:
I think you were looking more for something like this:

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/space-marine-codex-rumors-rhino.html

via The Emperor Himself on Warseer
Some info regarding the upcoming Space Marine Codex. Rhino variants to include a command Rhino, a medic Rhino and an armoured recovery Rhino. Each of these can be purchased as upgrades for the basic Rhino and provide enhancements to their Space Marine squad. Dreadnoughts to provide bonuses to nearby units owing to their 'Inspiring Presence'. These developments are inline with the design philosophy behind the new Codex to promote synergies between units to increase the tactical depth of Space Marines.

Hmm well I can already guess that the medic Rhino will give FNP to a squad withing 6" of it or something similar. Armored recovery Rhino probably has better AV. No idea what a command rhino would do, I always thought a Razorback filled that role...

Well, those new rhinos would give mre great excuses to buy more.......I mean repaint

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well, those new rhinos would give mre great excuses to buy more.......I mean repaint

Right? I can't wait to see all the white rhinos with red crosses on them.

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

No idea what a command rhino would do, I always thought a Razorback filled that role...

re-roll leaderhsip of course.... Or maybe units can score while embarked

 DeffDred wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well, those new rhinos would give mre great excuses to buy more.......I mean repaint

Right? I can't wait to see all the white rhinos with red crosses on them.

I wonder if ther will be a kit or it will just be an upgrade.


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