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2013/07/16 16:54:29
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
You are missing the larger picture - whether it was invoked or not is no longer relevant. SYG is considered by many - like me - to be a contributing factor in this horrible business. If you want to stick to RAW, then you will be disappointed when reality ignores you. The cat is out of the bag, Pandora's box is opened, whatever....
The defense used a standard self defense clause that is present in all 50 states and in most civilized countries in the world.
Again, not the point.
A "Civilized" country should never have allowed a law like SYG without careful consideration of all possible consequences. Zimmerman created the situation where he had to defend himself - he never should have created the situation.
You're using the death of TM to further your own agenda. Nice.
Which had nothing to do with SYG. Double nice!
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2013/07/16 16:55:10
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
I mean, you have to be intentionally missing the point, right?
Any prejudice towards Treyvon Martin in this instance was due to his clothing and demeanor, not his race. Both the Samford Police and the FBI have come to the same conclusion.
That may be. But we were speaking about racial profiling in general. You were spamming crime statistics by race.
This needs a link to a certain Avenue Q song known titled "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist". But I'm at work and youtube is a no go.
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2013/07/16 17:07:26
Subject: Re:Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Scott wrote: Zimmerman had the gun, the gun killed Martin, the gun wouldn't have been used had either of these people used slightly more sense.
You think someone is more at fault because they had a firearm?
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2013/07/16 17:09:33
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2013/07/16 17:24:17
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Scott wrote: Zimmerman had the gun, the gun killed Martin, the gun wouldn't have been used had either of these people used slightly more sense.
You think someone is more at fault because they had a firearm?
Whoa whoa whoa. Can we focus on one cause. Is it the firearm's fault, or is it because the White-Hispanic Zimmerman was a racist? Wait, no, It was probably the concrete's fault for having Zimmerman's head bouncin on it.
Bad concrete. Bad!
2013/07/16 17:25:24
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
If you license concrete then only criminals will have concrete!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2013/07/16 17:27:20
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Frazzled wrote: Wow the Jeantel witness is on Pier Morgan (hate that guy). Pardon, but is she drunk? She acts like I do after I've had about four rums.
Wo.
"Rachel Jeantel called the verdict "BS" and said Martin, 17, was never aggressive."
This statement has been retracted as Rachel Jeantel thought B.S. Stood for Bologna Sandwich
Frazzled wrote: Wow the Jeantel witness is on Pier Morgan (hate that guy). Pardon, but is she drunk? She acts like I do after I've had about four rums.
Wo.
"Rachel Jeantel called the verdict "BS" and said Martin, 17, was never aggressive."
This statement has been retracted as Rachel Jeantel thought B.S. Stood for Bologna Sandwich
I watched her interview with Piers Morgan and my goodness. I'm amazed the prosecution put her on the stand. Although I have to be honest: I get a pretty big kick out of watching stupid people incorrectly use words and phrasing to try and act intelligent. This goes especially for white trash. High comedy.
2013/07/16 17:50:49
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Frazzled wrote: Wow the Jeantel witness is on Pier Morgan (hate that guy). Pardon, but is she drunk? She acts like I do after I've had about four rums.
Wo.
"Rachel Jeantel called the verdict "BS" and said Martin, 17, was never aggressive."
This statement has been retracted as Rachel Jeantel thought B.S. Stood for Bologna Sandwich
Not sure if serious
Based on how this case has been a colossal circus it honestly wouldn't surprise me if she had "retracted" that statement.
A few other "gems" from her.
"If you were a real man you would have stand on that stage and tell what happened," she said, calling Zimmerman "weak" and "scary."
"It was racial. Let's be honest, racial. If Trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that happen?" she asked.
Jeantel acknowledged that Martin smoked marijuana, but added, "Weed don't make him go crazy, it just makes him go hungry."
I'm a horrible person, I wanted to make a few jokes about this girl, but will refrain from doing so.
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Frazzled wrote: Wow the Jeantel witness is on Pier Morgan (hate that guy). Pardon, but is she drunk? She acts like I do after I've had about four rums.
Wo.
"Rachel Jeantel called the verdict "BS" and said Martin, 17, was never aggressive."
This statement has been retracted as Rachel Jeantel thought B.S. Stood for Bologna Sandwich
I watched her interview with Piers Morgan and my goodness. I'm amazed the prosecution put her on the stand. Although I have to be honest: I get a pretty big kick out of watching stupid people incorrectly use words and phrasing to try and act intelligent. This goes especially for white trash. High comedy.
Am I wrong though. Didn't she look at least one sheet into the wind?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2013/07/16 18:34:34
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
@Frazz-- She really did. I think with her weird lisp and the fact that she barely speaks English contributed, but man...she didn't really avail herself at all in that interview. I really don't get her "explanation" of the "thuggisms" either; is that supposed to help bolster the general population's opinion of you?
And I nearly lost it when she claimed that "cracka" was supposed to mean someone trying to act like a cop. Gimmeabreak.
2013/07/16 18:38:32
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Yea thats just (another) lie.
You noticed she slipped up partway through on a discussion about either why he didn't call 911 or she wasn't afraid (I forget) to the effect that he could lay down a beatdown or something (I couldn't understand her all the time). My theory comes true.
She wasn't worried becuase she knew he was going to beat down Z. THATS why she didn't call the cops.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/07/16 18:44:38
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Frazzled wrote: Yea thats just (another) lie.
You noticed she slipped up partway through on a discussion about either why he didn't call 911 or she wasn't afraid (I forget) to the effect that he could lay down a beatdown or something (I couldn't understand her all the time). My theory comes true.
She wasn't worried becuase she knew he was going to beat down Z. THATS why she didn't call the cops.
That last sentence is speculation and full of faulty logic.
But I do agree that Rachel had no place on that stand. They should have made her do a video testimony much like what GZ did. She was unprepared and hostile at the thought of testifying. That makes for a bad witness.
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2013/07/16 18:49:14
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Frazzled wrote: Yea thats just (another) lie.
You noticed she slipped up partway through on a discussion about either why he didn't call 911 or she wasn't afraid (I forget) to the effect that he could lay down a beatdown or something (I couldn't understand her all the time). My theory comes true.
She wasn't worried becuase she knew he was going to beat down Z. THATS why she didn't call the cops.
That last sentence is speculation and full of faulty logic.
It has something in common with the prosecution's case then.
Frazzled wrote: Yea thats just (another) lie.
You noticed she slipped up partway through on a discussion about either why he didn't call 911 or she wasn't afraid (I forget) to the effect that he could lay down a beatdown or something (I couldn't understand her all the time). My theory comes true.
She wasn't worried becuase she knew he was going to beat down Z. THATS why she didn't call the cops.
That last sentence is speculation and full of faulty logic.
But I do agree that Rachel had no place on that stand. They should have made her do a video testimony much like what GZ did. She was unprepared and hostile at the thought of testifying. That makes for a bad witness.
Of course its speculation. I said as such. Faulty? no. She pretty much admitted it.
Besides why else when you hear your BF / friend whatever suddenly get into a fight on the other end with the phone cut off, do you just go off and do you hair? She couldn't do video testimony as she was within travelling distance. Defense would have just subpoenaed (sp) to testify.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/07/16 18:59:34
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Besides why else when you hear your BF / friend whatever suddenly get into a fight on the other end with the phone cut off, do you just go off and do you hair?
L-O-mother- fething-L! Is that what she testified she did?
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2013/07/16 19:08:17
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/07/16 19:14:22
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Sgt_Scruffy wrote: The pundits have gone into overdrive to spin this verdict into something it is not. Zimmerman's acquittal is not an endorsement of his actions. It is not a demonization of Trayvon Martin. It is not a vindication of Stand Your Ground (or Concealed Carry) laws, and it is not a call for open season on minorities. It is simply a verdict that stating that the six jurors were unable to find Zimmerman guilty of manslaughter or second degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt.
The various (mostly fringe lunatics) stating that the prosecution threw the case because they are racist, or that the 6 jurors found GZ not guilty because Martin was black are truly despicable though.
Clutching at straws. It's what happens when you don't actually have an argument, or facts to support your position.
Jihadin wrote: I'm actually looking forward to GZ to take NBC to task. I'm sure a few on here also looking forward to it.
I hope they have their checkbook close to hand
Frazzled wrote: Wow the Jeantel witness is on Pier Morgan (hate that guy). Pardon, but is she drunk? She acts like I do after I've had about four rums.
Wo.
What a combination.....
KalashnikovMarine wrote: The law suits Zimmerman is sure to file against NBC and other major networks will be fun to watch though.
I may need to stock up on popcorn for that before its all sold out
Frazzled wrote: We have them too. And Hmong, and refugees from Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Cuba, Ethiopia, and Sudan. We have a lot of different people. Tower of Babel, thine language is English (and Spanish).
You mean he's not a racist? How ever will the poor media cope with that revelation? Still, they managed to ignore the FBI when they said he wasn't motivated by race. Maybe a lawsuit will help them
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2013/07/16 19:50:23
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Despicable. I realize for the HoA it was a risk/reward type situation, but why are they entitled to any money, especially now. And FWIW, I feel the same about the millions of dollars that are about to be doled out to the families at Sandy Hook. It probably sounds really callous, but there are thousands of families every year that lose loved ones to non-natural deaths, but because they're not public, they don't see a dime for their 'pain and suffering.'
America. Land of the Free, Home of Entitlement.
I love this country, but man.....
2013/07/16 21:06:29
Subject: Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty
Despicable. I realize for the HoA it was a risk/reward type situation, but why are they entitled to any money, especially now. And FWIW, I feel the same about the millions of dollars that are about to be doled out to the families at Sandy Hook. It probably sounds really callous, but there are thousands of families every year that lose loved ones to non-natural deaths, but because they're not public, they don't see a dime for their 'pain and suffering.'
America. Land of the Free, Home of Entitlement.
I love this country, but man.....
That most likely came out of the HOA's insurance liability...
I've been reading the Florida laws on this... I think Zimmerman would be immune to future civil lawsuits.
No wonder Florida is such a popular state in these regards (OJ Simpson moved most of his assets to Florida prior to his civil court).
Still, they managed to ignore the FBI when they said he wasn't motivated by race. Maybe a lawsuit will help them 
