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Made in us
Sneaky Sniper Drone







The anti-GW feeling that has been circulating seems to just be getting worse and worse lately, and regardless of the motivation behind GW's changes, I feel as if the hobby we know and love is under attack by the very people who created it. As such, I have penned a letter that I am planning on sending to as many higher-ups in the Gamesworkshop hierarchy as I can find, including Jes Bickham of the White Dwarf. I also plan to send a copy to the manager of my local store.

I do not hope that my letter will change the policies of GW, but at least if their empire comes crashing down around their knees, I will have it on paper and I can say "I told you so" Following is the letter, which is quite lengthy, but it is my first draft. I literally just wrote it in a twenty or so minutes while scrolling through the forums to find some common issues that all dakkanaughts are concerned about. It is full of personal anecdotes, but I hope the overall theme is universal.

I know that not everyone is anti-GW, and this is not a place to debate whether or not they are good or evil, I simply want opinions on my letter, and if you have something you'd like added, I'd like to know that too.

As I said, this is a rough draft, and probably a little difficult to follow just yet, but I will be improving it in further versions. When I send it, I will keep you updated of any response.

Spoiler:
The purpose of this letter is to inform you of changes that have been perceived in the attitude and culture of Games Workshop by myself and a number of like minded hobbyists. This is not simply a list of complaints, and we are aware that there are two sides to every story. We are also aware that Games Workshop is, first and foremost, a business, and that making money has and will always be a primary goal. However, with that said, the attitude that recent events has revealed has me, my gaming group, and dozens if not hundreds of hobbyists I communicate with online, concerned for the future of both Games Workshop and our beloved hobby.

When I first started playing Warhammer 40,000, I was introduced to the hobby by a local Games Workshop hobby store where I attended a birthday party for one of my friends. We played a battle facilitated by a fantastically enthusiastic staff member, and I came away from the party a devote follower of the Greater Good. My next birthday, I asked for little else but the Tau codex and a few boxes to start my army. At that point, really the only way for me to obtain models was for my parents to get them for me, because the costs were astronomically out of reach for me. I remember that I played my first two years borrowing a friend’s rulebook because there was no way for me to afford my own. (It was $50 at the time, a price that now seems like a bargain).

I am now eighteen years old, and still am a proud member of the Tau Empire. In fact, I have never collected another army. (I do own some High Elf models from Warhammer Fantasy, but I have never bought any other 40k models). There are two main reasons for this single-minded devotion: Firstly, I loved the tau and wanted to perfect my army before moving on, which I now know, is impossible. Secondly, it was utterly out of my financial means to focus on more than one army at a time. Once again, I stress that I am fully aware of a business’ main priority, and I am fully aware that Games Workshop is a business. However, it seems to me that the prices have continued to increase from those days when I first started playing to a point where I am currently scrolling through pages of Ebay listings for used Tau models rather than buy them from GW. I have not bought a new box directly from GW in some time, many months if not years. I am attending Northwestern University next year, and I have trouble enough paying for all of the things I need for that, and although I wish I could afford to buy some more fancy boxes of models, I simply cannot. As I look at the Games Workshop website right now, Codex: Tau Empire sells for 49.50 US dollars. A quick switch to the Australian website shows that it is 83 Australian dollars. A quick check on Google tells me that $49.50 in the United States is worth 54.64 Australian dollars. This price difference may well be explained away with shipping costs and old exchange rates and whatnot but the differential just seems to be an act of apathy that just so happens to net GW extra profit. I feel such acts are becoming all too commonplace. As food for thought, I will never be able to convince any of my non-hobbyist friends to pick up any GW hobby for the sole reason that it is far too expensive.

Rising prices in and of themselves are not the only distressing sign of change in GW. The entire hobby itself has seemed to lean more and more towards selling miniatures rather than growing a community of likeminded hobbyists and improving the games. Recent model releases have most literally become bigger and bigger, and such, justify I suppose, in the eyes of GW, bigger price tags. Model releases have become more frequent, and although many gamers welcome the increased pace, it again seems like a transparent ploy in order to pocket more money. Perhaps the most unsettling change is the apparent hostility towards what I call the “creativity of the hobby.” When Games Workshop released its new website, practically all of the hobby advice, terrain kits, and other Do-it-yourself vanished. No longer does the website describe how to create your own defense lines from cheap materials; it now sells expensive plastic models for that. Even the articles written on the website are nothing but shameless plugs for GW products regardless of actual opinions on them. White Dwarf was the most telling to me about the change in attitude at GW. The old White Dwarf was a wealth of hobby knowledge, a real conglomeration of more experienced hobbyists teaching me and other less experienced members of the hobby how to do clever tricks and build their own terrain. White Dwarf is now less of a hobby magazine and more of a product catalog.

As a final anecdote to support my claims, my local GW hobby store is the Chicago Bunker. (From the Internet I hear that it is one of the few surviving “bunker” stores, the rest are becoming one-man shops with no other goal but to sell product.) I have always been 100% pleased with the service and staff of this particular store. When they remodeled however, all of the beautifully crafted, lovingly painted, hand sculpted Citadel Realm of Battle tiles replaced tables, hastily dry brushed and thrown down. It is not an acceptable replacement. I understand the convenience of such a change, but I urge GW to look more closely at the things that they have labeled “inconveniences.” The hobby these days has started to feel less and less welcoming, and I know I speak for many others when I say I am drifting away from Games Workshop, the company that sparked my love for toy soldiers. I hate to see these changes occur, but I do see them occurring, and I fear that it will not be long until the hobby that I know and love is destroyed by greed. I hope that the reader of this letter takes these words to heart, and although I am sure that this letter will do little to change the corporate policy of Games Workshop, I am writing nonetheless in defense of the hobby that I have loved.


'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." -Attributed to Abraham Lincoln, paraphrasing the book of Proverbs. 
   
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Sunny SoCal

It is worth sending, but the truth is that it has been done before literally 100's of times at this point. This is not to belittle your effort, merely to prepare you for the almost 100% certainty you will be ignored or receive at best a canned response.

I don't think the general animosity towards GW has changed all that much in the past year or two... they have been doing stuff that didn't sit well with most of the community for quite some time now... more and more is happening, but it is almost expected at this point.

I think the big change is that more and more people, like myself, are moving away from GW and have little interest or excitement for new product anymore, though we still love older stuff.

   
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I too am spending much less (both $$$ and time) on GW and as I go off to college I expect it to hit an all time low. My hope is that the fact that it as been done hundreds of times before wil actually give each letter they receive afterwards more weight.
I don't expect to change policy, but if we can get it in the back of their mind, we may see changes some day before the whole thing goes to hell.

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." -Attributed to Abraham Lincoln, paraphrasing the book of Proverbs. 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






GW's Response:


Dear Person...

You bought a bunch of our stuff, played for 18 months, then grew up. Please leave as we want to replace you with the next set of kids.

Thanks for your money!

GW



But some of your points are absurd... "transparent ploy in order to pocket more money" *EVERYTHING* a company does should be a transparent ploy to pocket more money.

Complaining about prices, complaining that they don't run the company like a clubhouse and 'I grew out of wargaming since I am going to college' isn't going to change a single opinion at GW.

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I still have a metric gak ton of the stuff, but their antics have done what they intended and drove me away to other more interesting systems.

You should sell off and do the same.

Good luck with that letter, though.



At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. 
   
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nkelsch wrote:
GW's Response:


Dear Person...

You bought a bunch of our stuff, played for 18 months, then grew up. Please leave as we want to replace you with the next set of kids.

Thanks for your money!

GW



But some of your points are absurd... "transparent ploy in order to pocket more money" *EVERYTHING* a company does should be a transparent ploy to pocket more money.

Complaining about prices, complaining that they don't run the company like a clubhouse and 'I grew out of wargaming since I am going to college' isn't going to change a single opinion at GW.


All of that is understandable as a company, and yet, a company that claims to be about advancing the hobby and enjoying the art involved in it. They need to change their fake personality then if they want to run a cutthroat business. I just want honesty. They don't need to say "we're trying to rip you off" but it would be nice if they would stop saying ,we want you to be passionate about this hobby. Have you ever read white dwarf? That's all they say.


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in additon, i don't expect policy to change because of one measly letter by a college bound kid, but i do know that policy will defintely NOT change if I just go along with their antics

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Myrtle Creek, OR

Dear HOBBY (tm) Enthusiast,

Thank you for your letter.

We pride ourselves on making the highest quality miniatures products in the world. Each of our miniatures is a veritable work-of-art, each capturing a character from worlds rich in action and adventure.

From the gloomy darkness of a dystopian, galaxy-spanning war to fantasy worlds where the forces of evil constantly ply their plans at domination, we're sure you'll agree our miniatures are world class.

Best wishes in your pursuit of The HOBBY (tm),

Management

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Cincinnati, Ohio

skink007 wrote:
I too am spending much less (both $$$ and time) on GW and as I go off to college I expect it to hit an all time low. My hope is that the fact that it as been done hundreds of times before wil actually give each letter they receive afterwards more weight.
I don't expect to change policy, but if we can get it in the back of their mind, we may see changes some day before the whole thing goes to hell.


Jeepers Creepers. You're going to be spending less money on plastic toys while you're at college. For shame. Say it ain't so.

 
   
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Devon, UK

"Be the change you want to see in the world"

Stop giving them money, as many other disaffected people have done.

If enough people feel the same, change will happen, money is all that matters to any company, but particularly a PLC who could lose millions off their value, literally overnight, if their financial performance bottoms out.

This letter, I'm afraid, won't even cross the desk of someone who might be able to pass it on to someone who knows someone that could affect change.

Even if they cared.

Which they don't.

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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

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I think it is quite common for most teen gamers to go into 'hibernation' when in college and then once they graduate and work for a few years and begin to have disposable income, re-enter the market.

So it is not uncommon to expect you will take a 6-8 year break from purchasing.

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 azreal13 wrote:
"Be the change you want to see in the world"

Stop giving them money, as many other disaffected people have done.

If enough people feel the same, change will happen, money is all that matters to any company, but particularly a PLC who could lose millions off their value, literally overnight, if their financial performance bottoms out.

This letter, I'm afraid, won't even cross the desk of someone who might be able to pass it on to someone who knows someone that could affect change.

Even if they cared.

Which they don't.


An unexplained drop in sales will likely create the exact opposite effect that I'd like to see. They will increase prices, reduce customer service, etc etc. I have stopped spending money there, and I understand the longshot of this ever reaching anyone, much less it being read. But if you truly believed "be the change you want to see in the world" you would do more than walk away and tell yourself that "that'll show 'em"

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." -Attributed to Abraham Lincoln, paraphrasing the book of Proverbs. 
   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

skink007 wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
"Be the change you want to see in the world"

Stop giving them money, as many other disaffected people have done.

If enough people feel the same, change will happen, money is all that matters to any company, but particularly a PLC who could lose millions off their value, literally overnight, if their financial performance bottoms out.

This letter, I'm afraid, won't even cross the desk of someone who might be able to pass it on to someone who knows someone that could affect change.

Even if they cared.

Which they don't.


An unexplained drop in sales will likely create the exact opposite effect that I'd like to see. They will increase prices, reduce customer service, etc etc. I have stopped spending money there, and I understand the longshot of this ever reaching anyone, much less it being read. But if you truly believed "be the change you want to see in the world" you would do more than walk away and tell yourself that "that'll show 'em"


Simply put, you're wrong. Az is spot on. The only way GW would reevaluate their pricing structure is if they saw a dramatic hit to their bottom line. This would require massive numbers of people to vote with their wallets. A quaint little letter from a college bound 18 year old isnt going to mean a damn thing.


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And honestly, if you're in college you should only be concerned about the three Bs:

Books, beers, and boobs. Probably in that order.

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Devon, UK

 cincydooley wrote:

Simply put, you're wrong. Az is spot on.


I just fell off my chair.

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Lol, as i've said multiple times, this letter is not going to change any minds and i understand that. I have never once stated that GW will change their policy. In fact, if I wanted to go that direction, I'd collect signatures or write a letter more logically inclined with fewer anecdotes. Obviously my letter is written at a very small scale. It is more about principle and my sadness at the changes I have seen implemented than a plea to change policy. As far as not meaning a damn thing, you are wrong. It will mean very very very little. Just like you not buying from GW and me not buying from GW and for God's sake if all of dakka stopped buying from GW it would mean very very very little. The idea isn't to force them or negotiate or anything. It is to make my opinion known.

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." -Attributed to Abraham Lincoln, paraphrasing the book of Proverbs. 
   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

 azreal13 wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:

Simply put, you're wrong. Az is spot on.


I just fell off my chair.


Hey, we may or may not agree on a lot of things, but we can agree that the only thing GW, or any public company, will listen to Is a hit to their profits.

Honestly, there's more of a chance that someone at GW would see a tweet than a letter or email.

 
   
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Chico, CA

If you buying there stuff it dosen't matter what you write, they already have you why would they change? Your going to keep buying any ways, what in it for them. You may say your sad, upset, mad, what ever, but it can't be if your sell buying. Thanking for blowing off steam thou, hope you fell better please by more stuff. That is how GW or any big company would react, can't really falt them for it either. Every company gets letters like that all the time, only hitting there bottom line will have any effect.

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If enough people stop buying... GW will increase their prices, then wonder why more people have stopped buying....

Then come out with a new edition, bigger models, and use that as an excuse to raise the prices again.

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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.

The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
 
   
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Chico, CA

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
If enough people stop buying... GW will increase their prices, then wonder why more people have stopped buying....

Then come out with a new edition, bigger models, and use that as an excuse to raise the prices again.

The Auld Grump


God I hope so if they run it in to the ground enough, even I could buy the company.

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@Skink007.

Just post it up in here as well. It'll get to the right people one way or another. And just ignore some of these White Knights, Apoligists, LoZers (yes wIth a Capital Z in the middle) and assorted straw men that say that GW is so AWESOME and they can never do wrong. I'm looking to see how AWESOME the new round of financial reports are going to be. They are going to be AWESOMER.... Because of some of the reasons you have posted.

Then I'll take these reports and hand them to a think tank that I am involved in once a month. Then we get some real laughs over dinner.

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I don't know about you guys. But i didn't get into the hobby for its discount prices. I've always recognized that GW products are expensive. Even that they're more expensive that comparable games systems. GW has their reasons for their prices. and i don't care (that much). Within reason, i'll likely pay.

However, i was hoping to read something more in your letter about the rising hostility in GW staffers to hobbyists. I mean this literally. I know geek kids geek out and they're loud and rambunctious. But there has to be better ways of dealing with them than border line abusive behaviour. Also, never mind the kids (they're occasionally annoying). Mature hobbyists are being subject to similar behaviour. Being restricted about talking about non-gw game systems in store? Even games like monopoly or trouble? Really?! Perhaps these are isolated to the local staffers in my area. But... i somehow doubt it. No one is that douchy because they enjoy being horrible to almost everyone who's not buying their stuff at that exact moment. I talked with one opponent the other day who had been harassed at his local GW because the MOD had checked the logs and noticed he was using models that hadn't been bought in store. NOT that he was using other game system models or even extreme conversions, but that he was using GW models that hadn't been bought there.

REALLY, i am telling this story as i was told it. And knowing the individual he was talking about... i'm not surprised.

I would love it. LOVE IT if GW actually changed this draconian attitude towards business and just chilled for a bit. Personally i suspect this kind of attitude has come to the forefront with the public selling of the company. Now there are stock holders to be held accountable to
   
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New Orleans, LA

Best of luck with your letter.

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I'm from the future. The future of space

skink007 wrote:The anti-GW feeling that has been circulating seems to just be getting worse and worse lately, and regardless of the motivation behind GW's changes, I feel as if the hobby we know and love is under attack by the very people who created it.


GW did not create the hobby. They are just the single largest company selling miniatures and games for the wider hobby of miniature wargaming.

cincydooley wrote:The only way GW would reevaluate their pricing structure is if they saw a dramatic hit to their bottom line. This would require massive numbers of people to vote with their wallets. A quaint little letter from a college bound 18 year old isnt going to mean a damn thing.


You are right about the letter not doing anything, but GW has changed their pricing structure. There was no across the board price increase this year. Instead, they are raising prices on new products as they come out. The new stuff sells as people buy the codex and new armies and the new kits to update their existing armies, so we'll see more things like 5 dire avengers for a higher price per model than before rather than across the board price increases. According to the sales spreadsheet released in the CHS lawsuit, GW sells lots of the newest release and lots of space marines.

As long as they keep doing regular new releases with new space marine releases interspersed through the year they'll be able to get the price increase into effect without doing a yearly adjustment of everything and not have to do it in response to declining unit sales of existing stock. The price increases will still be in response to declining unit sales in general, but I think they've found a way to both have the price increases and not have the price increases at the same time. The end result will be that the average price will continue to rise, but it will be more of a matter of increases on what sells well: new kits (be they new vehicles, new units or simply repackages/retoolings of existing kits like the dire avengers).

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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. 
   
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Beijing

Well you say that the hobby us under attack from 'those that created it', but perhaps someone could explain what Kirby has created? GW has been mostly living off the creativity of people who made these games in the 80s. The people who created this hobby are still creating it, but for different companies. GW's creativity is limited to a new MC variant for their large oval bases when a new codex is released, that doesn't count. Real creativity is gone, replaced with stagnation in the same couple of games as company bosses play safe. The creatives of the 80s and 90s are gone, being replaced with managers and lawyers. GW solely focus on creating money now, to the point where it probably hurts them because they're all short term strategies.

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The only gripe I have with GW is the content of the white dwarf and the fact they do not include all codex weapons options in their kits.

The white dwarf is UTTER gak. Its one big commercial brochure, utter marketing drivel. I can keep going on, but the old white dwarf is gone and this pile of gak should be given away free of charge.

And then regarding the codex options not in the kits, I guess it might be a way for them to stimulate the bits market or in some cases to tempt you to buy other kits that do include the parts, but I think if you are charging Euro 30+ for a box of 10 minis, you'd better include all the effing options!

For the rest I am okay with the hobby, its alot of fun and yes its expensive. Get over it.

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West Midlands (UK)

 azreal13 wrote:
"Be the change you want to see in the world"

Stop giving them money, as many other disaffected people have done.

If enough people feel the same, change will happen, money is all that matters to any company, but particularly a PLC who could lose millions off their value, literally overnight, if their financial performance bottoms out.


I am.

I have been on a financial boycott of Ferrari since... well... forever. I simply refuse to buy their overpriced cars and firmly believe that they are utterly out of touch with the millions of potential customers out there who grew up loving their brand and product from trading cards, etc.. .

I am sure my absent purchases will soon bring them to reason, or force them to change their errant ways.

It's only a matter of time.

   
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 azreal13 wrote:
"Be the change you want to see in the world"

Stop giving them money, as many other disaffected people have done.

And really stop, not just "stop until they release something awesome". Once you're out, you're out and should never get back in. If you can't do that, don¨t bother.

The supply does not get to make the demands. 
   
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 Zweischneid wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
"Be the change you want to see in the world"

Stop giving them money, as many other disaffected people have done.

If enough people feel the same, change will happen, money is all that matters to any company, but particularly a PLC who could lose millions off their value, literally overnight, if their financial performance bottoms out.


I am.

I have been on a financial boycott of Ferrari since... well... forever. I simply refuse to buy their overpriced cars and firmly believe that they are utterly out of touch with the millions of potential customers out there who grew up loving their brand and product from trading cards, etc.. .

I am sure my absent purchases will soon bring them to reason, or force them to change their errant ways.

It's only a matter of time.


Oh look, a red herring!


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The main difference between the offerings of Ferrari and GW is performance.

GW isn't even setting themselves up as the luxury brand for those who can afford it. Instead, they release mediocre product and pretend to be alone in the market.

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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. 
   
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West Midlands (UK)

If you don't like Ferrari, take any other company you are not (!) spending money on.

Has your lack of spending affected their behaviour as a company? Put them under pressure? Forced them to change their ways?


Writing a letter, however minuscule the impact may be, is still infinitely more effective at making your dissatisfaction heard than "stop spending".


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"Hey Matt!"

"Yeah"?

"We got a letter here!"

"Any money attached?"

"Not as far as I can see!"

"BURN IT"

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