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There isn't enough on this forum about the best legion, the night lords. The night lords are possibly my fav legion. I know there is a lot of hate for them out there but lets show some love.
Obviously if you think of them as a bunch of stupid, undisciplined cowards then of course you should hate them but may I remind the haters that they are still space marines. The super soldiers, the ultimate warriors of the galaxy. They are far from stupid. And untainted by chaos (for the most part). discuss.

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watch this and you will know exactly why people don't like the night lords, its got nothing to do with their fluff, honestly

Make sure you start at about a minute if you want to get right to the bat jokes


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haha that was awesome. I think the helms look bad ass though.

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To be fair even the Night Lords themselves make fun of those helmets.

In the novels it says that they only wear the big bat winged helms as ceremonial décor.

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I just imagine its hard to sneak around when you're constantly getting tree branches, spider webs, and low flying aircraft stuck in your helmet

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Plus, what's the point of them? They're bad... for the sake of being bad? They like being scary... because they're scary? They paint lighting squiggles on their armor?

They look like something a 6-year-old would draw as a token villain that sits around maniacally laughing just waiting to get beaten up by superman.

Alpha legion is trying to set up a viable alternative to the imperium. Emperor's Children are attempting to find the limits of human experience. Word Bearers are on a galactic crusade to convert people to belief in gods that actually exist.

Night lords... paint lightning squiggles on their armor and exist to shout "boo" at imperial guardsmen. If there was any bigger goal to them, I'd like them a lot more, but as it is, they just seem too much like generic bad guys in a faction filled with genuinely good villains.



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YeahI agree, the Night Lords as a whole aren't very compelling villains. The reason ADB's Night Lords trilogy was so great was because the main character so despised what his Legion was and had become, and exposed just how awful the Night Lords are from the inside.

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 MandalorynOranj wrote:
YeahI agree, the Night Lords as a whole aren't very compelling villains. The reason ADB's Night Lords trilogy was so great was because the main character so despised what his Legion was and had become, and exposed just how awful the Night Lords are from the inside.

It wasn't just Night Lords, it was Chaos Marines in general. They weren't bad for the sake of bad, or moustache-twirling villains. They're just filled with hatred and they act the only way that makes sense to them.

I think Night Lords' bat/skull motif is cool and very, very 40k. There are subtle ways to do it, but the giant batwings on the helmets of the Marines is not the way it should be done. Their color scheme rules, and I really like the terror markings/lightning bolts on the armor. A legion that, even when they were loyalists, focused on terror tactics, is super cool to me. If I wasn't already hip deep in power armored models at the moment I'd paint some up.

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i'm not a fan of the bat wings either for the models. I only hope that a few different versions are modelled by FW and i would stick with the most subtle. If i could get away with none helmeted models for the lot then that is what i will be doing. Pale skin, black eyes and some element of having skinned bodies draped over their armour would be suitable.

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 Ailaros wrote:
Plus, what's the point of them? They're bad... for the sake of being bad? They like being scary... because they're scary? They paint lighting squiggles on their armor?

They look like something a 6-year-old would draw as a token villain that sits around maniacally laughing just waiting to get beaten up by superman.

Alpha legion is trying to set up a viable alternative to the imperium. Emperor's Children are attempting to find the limits of human experience. Word Bearers are on a galactic crusade to convert people to belief in gods that actually exist.

Night lords... paint lightning squiggles on their armor and exist to shout "boo" at imperial guardsmen. If there was any bigger goal to them, I'd like them a lot more, but as it is, they just seem too much like generic bad guys in a faction filled with genuinely good villains.




theyre not painting lightning squiggles on their armour. i'm pretty sure the lightning is supposed to be real but people's realization usually isnt very good. nightlords are really fricken hard to paint.



here's what the "squiggles" can look like by someone who knows what theyre doing

I like them because it's a unique and interesting idea and colour scheme. alpha legion is so boring.
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Nice paintjob. Still squiggles.

The thing is, if such a thing existed in the real world, the lightning would still be painted on. You're PAINTING a lightning scheme on your armor.

It's still a juvenile way to attempt to look more badass.

I mean, they'd be the exact kind of people who would have cars that looked like:



Yes, congratulations, you put neon lights and a useless spoiler and a giant speaker system in your car. And by your car, I mean your mother's Honda Civic.

Real cool, bra...


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kb305 wrote:


I like them because it's a unique and interesting idea and colour scheme. alpha legion is so boring.


Alpha Legion have scales on their armour, and a hydra as a symbol. Not really boring tbh.

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Well, Night Lords suffer the Batman analogy in many ways.

Guy dressing up as a Bat is just the most idiotic idea ever. But it's still cool. Cause it's Batman. Same with Night Lords.




   
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 Ailaros wrote:
The thing is, if such a thing existed in the real world, the lightning would still be painted on.

If giant super soldiers from hell were real... I think it's easy to believe that they would have arcs of lighting moving about their armour.
You're PAINTING a lightning scheme on your armor. It's still a juvenile way to attempt to look more badass.

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 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, Night Lords suffer the Batman analogy in many ways.

Guy dressing up as a Bat is just the most idiotic idea ever. But it's still cool. Cause it's Batman. Same with Night Lords.


I was wondering when this would appear

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 Tod wrote:
 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, Night Lords suffer the Batman analogy in many ways.

Guy dressing up as a Bat is just the most idiotic idea ever. But it's still cool. Cause it's Batman. Same with Night Lords.


I was wondering when this would appear


It's the comment this thread deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

   
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 Ailaros wrote:
Nice paintjob. Still squiggles.

The thing is, if such a thing existed in the real world, the lightning would still be painted on. You're PAINTING a lightning scheme on your armor.

It's still a juvenile way to attempt to look more badass.

I mean, they'd be the exact kind of people who would have cars that looked like:



Yes, congratulations, you put neon lights and a useless spoiler and a giant speaker system in your car. And by your car, I mean your mother's Honda Civic.

Real cool, bra...



ok, who cares. we do blood effects, glow effects, weathering effects... all painted on. what is your point?

you dont like painted lightning apparently or just generally want to your models to look boring?

that's really funny "juvenile attempt to look more badass" what in warhammer ISNT a juvenile attempt to look more bad ass? guys in huge armour putting a robe or loincloth over it for some reason, little dumb looking churches built onto the back of motorcycles, guys in huge armour putting on fur pelts for some reason, i could go on... barbie is jealous of how many accessories space marines have.
   
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 Zweischneid wrote:
 Tod wrote:
 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, Night Lords suffer the Batman analogy in many ways.

Guy dressing up as a Bat is just the most idiotic idea ever. But it's still cool. Cause it's Batman. Same with Night Lords.


I was wondering when this would appear


It's the comment this thread deserves, but not the one it needs right now.


Oh, you think that comment is your ally. But you merely adopted that comment; I was born in it, moulded by it.

I think the night lords are a little out of date. Time for the bat wings to be put in the cupboard and new Night Lords fashion designer to step up!

 
   
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kb305 wrote:
 Ailaros wrote:
Nice paintjob. Still squiggles.

The thing is, if such a thing existed in the real world, the lightning would still be painted on. You're PAINTING a lightning scheme on your armor.

It's still a juvenile way to attempt to look more badass.

I mean, they'd be the exact kind of people who would have cars that looked like:



Yes, congratulations, you put neon lights and a useless spoiler and a giant speaker system in your car. And by your car, I mean your mother's Honda Civic.

Real cool, bra...



ok, who cares. we do blood effects, glow effects, weathering effects... all painted on. what is your point?

you dont like painted lightning apparently or just generally want to your models to look boring?

that's really funny "juvenile attempt to look more badass" what in warhammer ISNT a juvenile attempt to look more bad ass? guys in huge armour putting a robe or loincloth over it for some reason, little dumb looking churches built onto the back of motorcycles, guys in huge armour putting on fur pelts for some reason, i could go on... barbie is jealous of how many accessories space marines have.

It's not people painting lightning effects on that's juvenile, it's that the Night Lords paint their armor with lightning effects. At least that's what I took from the post.

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 Rippy wrote:


I think the night lords are a little out of date. Time for the bat wings to be put in the cupboard and new Night Lords fashion designer to step up!


More Skulls, then.

Much more subtle.

   
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Come on are we really complaining about bat helms and lightning when there are space wolves. Giant superhumans In huge armour riding giant wolf's. I do agree there should be some smaller helms made though.

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Lol, the NL also paint skulls on their helmets to make them scarier.

Another thing I noticed is that the NL actually keep their serfs alive - I don't think many other traitor legions have as much sympathy for regular humans as the NL do.

I can't wait for ADB to start writing the novels about Decimus. Its gonna be so cool!

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ADB has done so much for the Night Lords. Sevatar and the trilogy hav gone a long way to make the NL seem cool.

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 DeffDred wrote:
 Ailaros wrote:
The thing is, if such a thing existed in the real world, the lightning would still be painted on.

If giant super soldiers from hell were real... I think it's easy to believe that they would have arcs of lighting moving about their armour.
You're PAINTING a lightning scheme on your armor. It's still a juvenile way to attempt to look more badass.

Like the Chargers?

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 Lucarikx wrote:
Lol, the NL also paint skulls on their helmets to make them scarier.

Another thing I noticed is that the NL actually keep their serfs alive - I don't think many other traitor legions have as much sympathy for regular humans as the NL do.

I can't wait for ADB to start writing the novels about Decimus. Its gonna be so cool!

Lucarikx

Preeeeety sure they don't keep serfs alive out of sympathy, they do it because they make good slaves or are useful in some capacity.

And agreed that Decimus books would be cool, has he mentioned plans for that? He's gonna be pretty busy with the Black Legion series.

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NL leave their slaves alive, so they can scare people when there aren't any enemies around!

   
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The lightning motif is part of their "terror markings" and is (or at least originally was) painted on. If chaos-influenced Night Lords have actual lightning dancing around their armor, that's a different story.

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the slaves are kept alive because the ships require enormous man power to function. and they can terrify them as much as they wish. I like the idea that there is actual electric on there armour. surely its impossible on a model though.????

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Night lords are always a prime example given whenever I'm trying to explain how awesomely stupid 40k is.

'There's spaceships that are giant flying cathedrals!"

"There's a race of gundam fish men!"

"There's an evil army of BAT MANS"

   
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 McGibs wrote:
Night lords are always a prime example given whenever I'm trying to explain how awesomely stupid 40k is.

'There's spaceships that are giant flying cathedrals!"

"There's a race of gundam fish men!"

"There's an evil army of BAT MANS"


it could be a long long long list. lol.

the dark angels winged helmets are bigger, taller and more ridiculous looking than nightlords helmets atleast

   
 
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