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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 00:09:35
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Chico, CA
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brassangel wrote:
If it makes extremely good bank, I doubt it will be dropped. They may even place a different team of people on it for continued support so they can continue to high rate of 40k releases without disruption.
 If Space Hulk didn't get anything after nearly selling out before release. This will not either, no matter how well it sells. It is sad how many thing sell great for GW and they never even reprint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 00:27:57
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BryllCream wrote: WarAngel wrote:aclive wrote:the general marketing goal for Inquisition is a gateway game into the greater Warhammer 40k universe.
Yet another reason GW is like a drug dealer.  The only difference is the the first hit isn't free.
It's called plastic crack for a reason  and back in the day they did give a free model or box to newcomers. I got a free commissar. This was 13 years ago mind...
In the back of every Black Library book I buy I see a huge advertisement that says "Come to a GW store. First mini free!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 01:04:11
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Noir wrote: brassangel wrote:
If it makes extremely good bank, I doubt it will be dropped. They may even place a different team of people on it for continued support so they can continue to high rate of 40k releases without disruption.
 If Space Hulk didn't get anything after nearly selling out before release. This will not either, no matter how well it sells. It is sad how many thing sell great for GW and they never even reprint.
This is supposedly a gateway game that will always be available. Nothing like space hulk
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 01:20:55
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Not as Good as a Minion
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dementedwombat wrote:
In the back of every Black Library book I buy I see a huge advertisement that says "Come to a GW store. First mini free!"
Often with a picture of a badass spacewolf, an apothecary, a vampire special character, stuff like that. Not quite the model you'd get I reckon, but hey. Has anyone tried to take up those offers? Or are they from when the books were printed a while ago and they don't do it anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 02:21:33
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I fear there is a lack of that at GW now... Otherwise they would have a sense of humor like they used to
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 02:58:26
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Norn Queen
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motyak wrote: dementedwombat wrote: In the back of every Black Library book I buy I see a huge advertisement that says "Come to a GW store. First mini free!" Often with a picture of a badass spacewolf, an apothecary, a vampire special character, stuff like that. Not quite the model you'd get I reckon, but hey. Has anyone tried to take up those offers? Or are they from when the books were printed a while ago and they don't do it anymore. They still do it. You get a push fit Space Marine with a bolter. They used to give you some model from the starter, but I guess now they've made a single frame push fit Bolter marine for this purpose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 05:21:37
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Squat Kid wrote:I'd happily take Necromunda, Blood Bowl or whatever. Anything to distract a veteran 40k player from this awful edition of the game...
I love 6th edition and enjoy it more than the last three editions, but even still, there's room in my heart for Necromunda or possibly even another skirmish game! Small games and skirmishes are some of my favorites.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 05:29:49
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Brother SRM wrote: Squat Kid wrote:I'd happily take Necromunda, Blood Bowl or whatever. Anything to distract a veteran 40k player from this awful edition of the game...
I love 6th edition and enjoy it more than the last three editions, but even still, there's room in my heart for Necromunda or possibly even another skirmish game! Small games and skirmishes are some of my favorites.
I started in 3rd and loved it. 4th was better, especially kill team rules. 5th was by far my favorite because they got rid of all the wonky terrain and line of sight rules, and 6th seems like a step backward for me. If they could capture the essence of 4th edition kill teams mixed with Necromunda, Gorkamorka and a little Inquisitor thrown in, they'd have one hell of a game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 05:43:05
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Motograter wrote:Noir wrote: brassangel wrote:
If it makes extremely good bank, I doubt it will be dropped. They may even place a different team of people on it for continued support so they can continue to high rate of 40k releases without disruption.
 If Space Hulk didn't get anything after nearly selling out before release. This will not either, no matter how well it sells. It is sad how many thing sell great for GW and they never even reprint.
This is supposedly a gateway game that will always be available. Nothing like space hulk
'Always be available', huh? If it's not fantasy or 40k its shelf life is limited. LotR remains as long as the licence, a few things like Epic lasted quite a long time in various editions. But most GW games last couple of years tops, they're a distraction from pushing space marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 06:49:00
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I'd rather a game about the Inquisition than Blood Bowl.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 06:53:37
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Pyre Troll
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what about a game about the inquisition playing blood bowl
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 20132013/07/18 07:31:10
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Mechanized Halqa
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I personally will keep an eye on this and make my decision based on what the actual rules and how much it will cost me in the end. If it fails, well I always have infinity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 08:02:52
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Calculating Commissar
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Motograter wrote:This is supposedly a gateway game that will always be available. Nothing like space hulk
Says who? You're projecting the collective hopes of a few starry-eyed dreamers for a new GW paradigm, supported with no justification whatsoever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 08:06:02
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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If this is true it will be a instant buy for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 30000/07/18 08:19:16
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Agamemnon2 wrote:
Says who? You're projecting the collective hopes of a few starry-eyed dreamers for a new GW paradigm, supported with no justification whatsoever.
Nobody. It's a rumour. I get it. For all we know, GW might release a box of DreadFleet 2.0 the Dreader Fleet.
But it's rather tedious to repeat in every single post that this is indeed a rumour and should be read accordingly.
It's not a bad strategy to streamline the discussion by running with, for the purposes of the discussion, the assumption that the rumour is credible, since presumably most people will be aware that this is indeed a rumour until we have some solid evidence (e.g White Dwarf scans, GW announcement, nondescript teaser trailer, blurry Games Day pics, etc..).
Indeed, this entire sub-forum on Dakka happens to be named News & Rumours. You should know what you're reading when you're here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 08:34:51
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 08:48:39
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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I expect that this year's box (and next year's box as well) will be The Hobbit 2.0 and 3.0. I wouldn't be surprised if an annual-release trilogy of boxed-release boardgames were part of their contract with NLC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 08:51:50
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Zweischneid wrote: Agamemnon2 wrote:
Says who? You're projecting the collective hopes of a few starry-eyed dreamers for a new GW paradigm, supported with no justification whatsoever.
Nobody. It's a rumour. I get it. For all we know, GW might release a box of DreadFleet 2.0 the Dreader Fleet.
But it's rather tedious to repeat in every single post that this is indeed a rumour and should be read accordingly.
It's not a bad strategy to streamline the discussion by running with, for the purposes of the discussion, the assumption that the rumour is credible, since presumably most people will be aware that this is indeed a rumour until we have some solid evidence (e.g White Dwarf scans, GW announcement, nondescript teaser trailer, blurry Games Day pics, etc..).
Indeed, this entire sub-forum on Dakka happens to be named News & Rumours. You should know what you're reading when you're here.
Except that the original rumour states that a mystery box is on the way, people saying that this will be a fully supported gateway skirmish game for 40k doesn't feature anywhere in the rumour and goes completely against everything that GW has been done in the past 5+ years.
Odds are that even if this is a 28mm Inquisitor game like the rumour says, it will be a one time limited edition release just like Deadfleet and Space Hulk were, designed to be just a quick money grab for GDub.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:13:47
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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PhantomViper wrote:
Except that the original rumour states that a mystery box is on the way, people saying that this will be a fully supported gateway skirmish game for 40k doesn't feature anywhere in the rumour and goes completely against everything that GW has been done in the past 5+ years.
Odds are that even if this is a 28mm Inquisitor game like the rumour says, it will be a one time limited edition release just like Deadfleet and Space Hulk were, designed to be just a quick money grab for GDub.
No. Rumour says pretty explicitly that it might not be a limited thing if it sells enough. It also notes that an option allegedly being discussed in Nottingham is continued support through digital formats only.
Is that a rather whacky and unbelievable rumour? Yes. How would anyone be able to get rumours from GW's board rooms on them deliberating the possibility of doing a non-limited thing if it sells well enough? I sure don't know.
But it is the rumour for all it's worth (and the rumour, by the end of the year, should probably by judged by that).
Odds might be different, pointing to a Space Hulk style thing no matter what. But the odds are not the rumour. They are your speculation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:24:43
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TastyTaste wrote:As for rules complexity that is anyone's guess, but the general marketing goal for Inquisition is a gateway game into the greater Warhammer 40k universe.
(...)
This also might not end up as a limited edition run, but that all depends on sales, and if any support is continued will be done through digital expansions and updates.
Agamemnon2 wrote:Motograter wrote:This is supposedly a gateway game that will always be available. Nothing like space hulk
Says who? You're projecting the collective hopes of a few starry-eyed dreamers for a new GW paradigm, supported with no justification whatsoever.
PhantomViper wrote:Except that the original rumour states that a mystery box is on the way, people saying that this will be a fully supported gateway skirmish game for 40k doesn't feature anywhere in the rumour and goes completely against everything that GW has been done in the past 5+ years.
Odds are that even if this is a 28mm Inquisitor game like the rumour says, it will be a one time limited edition release just like Deadfleet and Space Hulk were, designed to be just a quick money grab for GDub.
Hope the original quote makes it clear what was said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:28:32
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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I apparently glossed over that part when I first read the OP...
My mistake, I stand corrected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:31:35
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Foxy Wildborne
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How does being limited edition or not depending on sales even work? I'm pretty sure you can't market something as limited edition and then continue making it if it sells well...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:34:39
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Maybe they keep finding hidden stock buried away in the warehouse every so often?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:35:04
Subject: Re:Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Hey,
Part of what makes this rumour "interesting" is the fact that - if true - sounds like GW is throwing out all their established practices to cave in on the ultimate fan-wish-listing later this year. It goes against "the odds" in just about every way imaginable.
So BoK either has some serious inside information, or someone's been seriously trolled by their own vivid wish-listing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:40:19
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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GW could be prepping the ground for a new "third game" as and when LotR/Hobbit stagnates/license finishes. Lets hope so eh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 09:52:12
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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warboss wrote:I'm a bit more worried about it being based off the Blanche artwork. I realize there are lots of people out there who like his stuff but I'm definitely not one of them. For me, the Blanche Black Library
art book was an instant sell whereas the Goodwin one was a definite keeper.
Remember Femme Militant? they were rather sub par too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 10:04:39
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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notprop wrote:GW could be prepping the ground for a new "third game" as and when LotR/Hobbit stagnates/license finishes. Lets hope so eh.
I hope this is true just so we can see more this GW that actually moves it's butt and creates new and interesting things!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 11:10:04
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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TheDraconicLord wrote: notprop wrote:GW could be prepping the ground for a new "third game" as and when LotR/Hobbit stagnates/license finishes. Lets hope so eh.
I hope this is true just so we can see more this GW that actually moves it's butt and creates new and interesting things!
I do find it extremely hard to accept this,. I certainly would buy it but depending on what they plan to do. but if there is a limited set of figures i.e. a box and thats it, it might put me off. I hope its a full game and a range. if not I might just ignore it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 11:12:02
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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yukihyou wrote:I do find it extremely hard to accept this,. I certainly would buy it but depending on what they plan to do. but if there is a limited set of figures i.e. a box and thats it, it might put me off. I hope its a full game and a range. if not I might just ignore it.
And if it's a game but not a range (ie. a fire-and-forget release to boost sales in a particular quarter, ala Dreadfleet)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/18 11:27:18
Subject: Mystery Box - No Blood Bowl? Instead...40K Inquisition?!?
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Screaming Shining Spear
Pittsburgh, PA
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lord_blackfang wrote:How does being limited edition or not depending on sales even work? I'm pretty sure you can't market something as limited edition and then continue making it if it sells well...?
They could produce it as a limited run as opposed to limited edition, that way once it sells out they have the option of printing off more runs.
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