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I was hoping for a reboot of Bombas over da Sulfa Rivva

 snurl wrote:
I was hoping for a reboot of Bombas over da Sulfa Rivva

No you weren't.



After all of this, I'm going to be really disappointed f it isn't some sort of 28mm scaled Inquisitor/Warbands/Necromunda-hybrid thing.

In other words, if it IS "Bombas over da Sulfa Rivva"!

Yeah,
I've thought about it and now taken complete offense to this threads subject title.

I want bloodbowl...

Panic...

 snurl wrote:
I was hoping for a reboot of Bombas over da Sulfa Rivva

Just in time for the end of aeronautica, new limited edition imperial aeronautica!

I for one will be looking forward to a 40k inq. Game. Just imagine if it was a well supported game in Whitedwarf even if for only a year or two.

I think I'm in the minority here, but I just don't have much interest in BloodBowl.

In fact, I have trouble gettting into any "sports" miniatures games.

Am I alone here?

Probably not. Bloodbowl is also a lot more of a board game than other miniatures games. It's not a bad thing, but it's just different. Same goes with Space Hulk, but at least in that case, you still have soldiers fighting other things.

EDIT: I say that as a huge BB fan.

Also, I don't think GW can do justice to BB anymore. BB was at its height with the BBRC and the massive fan involvement. That's now all been destroyed and all the good will sapped away by things like legal threats to fans for using bloodbowl in their forum domain names. GW isn't willing to maintain the product line, so a one-off board game box isn't going to do as a release if you want the true bloodbowl experience. Other smaller companies have filled the fantasy creatures playing football market now and I think they do a better job than GW would.


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A smaller model count 40k skirmish game is likely going to be a good way to go. But again, I wonder about supporting it. Will the jump from there really be to full size 40k or will there be miniatures to add to the skirmish warbands and small boxes of stuff?

I'd rather play BB than any other GW game. I was hoping the rumored fall release would finally convince my group to start it. I've only played the PC game version.

Still, I'd be excited about a Skirmish Inquisition game. I feel like 40k and WHFB are both spiraling out on control into games that should really not be 30 mm scale... so anything skirmished or BB would be a welcomed change for me.

While a skirmish game sounds interesting, and makes sense from a business standpoint by offering a low-cost entry game with theoretically compatible models, GW's penchant to over-charge enormously for "character" models will present a barrier still to new players.

Who's going to spend $20+ on single models for their warband? How they handle the actual physical product is of great interest to me.

Omg if this box set is bull and doesnt appear by xmas I will buy an xbox and gta5, serious..

 MajorStoffer wrote:
While a skirmish game sounds interesting, and makes sense from a business standpoint by offering a low-cost entry game with theoretically compatible models, GW's penchant to over-charge enormously for "character" models will present a barrier still to new players.

Who's going to spend $20+ on single models for their warband? How they handle the actual physical product is of great interest to me.

Thats a good point, with todays prices a small game is likely to scare away potential gamers that are not yet addicted (and not yet willing to grumpily pay up whatevers on the price tag).
I remember though, when me and my friends started out with necromunda; my friend bought a new heavy for his scavvies, a really large model it costed exactly half of what todays plastic far seer cost and we all had a sour feeling he had been robbed by GW. Today though, we are still here.

Get a PS4 instead.

On topic in here please!

 MajorStoffer wrote:
While a skirmish game sounds interesting, and makes sense from a business standpoint by offering a low-cost entry game with theoretically compatible models, GW's penchant to over-charge enormously for "character" models will present a barrier still to new players.

Who's going to spend $20+ on single models for their warband? How they handle the actual physical product is of great interest to me.

I would imagine they have enough chestnuts in the fire so to speak without committing to a skirmish game like necromunda. But a one shot like space hulk, with Inq. on one side and gene stealer cultists or demons on the other would be a fun game. GW has proven they can do excellent snap fit plastics for box sets.

If this ends up being priced similarly to Dark Vengeance and is meant to be a gateway game to get people into 40k, then why wouldn't people just get DV? And if people decide they don't necessarily want to get into full 40k, but there are no additional products for this inquisitor game, then there's no path for them to expand.

I'm beginning to think that GW's theory that games other than 40k/WFB/LotR just serve to cannibalize sales of those three games (really two) might be a self fulfilling prophecy. Either this games is going to be a one-off like space hulk or it's going to be an introduction into 40k, but if the point is 40k, then how is it a better starter than DV (assuming Space Hulk like prices).

If this is going to be GW venturing back into board game territory (or even a just a skirmish system with a few optional pieces for each side), I think it's going to need to have Island of Blood/ Dark Reach quality and quantities of plastic in order to entice ameritrash boardgamers or fence sitters wary of GW's premium prices on characters models.

As a board gamer first and foremost, I'm a cheapskate. Most board gamers seem to be- much more so than war gamers.

HOWEVER- you start filling a box up with lots of pieces and quality components like the space hulk rerelease or some of Fantasy Flgiht's more blinged out games (like 1st edition Descent), suddenly that price tag is a lot less of a barrier.

I'm just not sure how a product like that fits into GW's larger 40k-centric approach.

I think the big thing is the crossover.

Space Hulk is a good board game. It also helps that all the figures can then be transplanted into a 40k army.

1st edition with its ugly termies was my entry point and was the start of my first space marine army (along with a genestealer cult to fight them).

An inquistor's band against some chaos cultists/ genestealers would be a nice entry point like others have said.

Throw in lots of nice plastic pieces and some good options for custom fodder (plus some scenery if we're lucky?) and you'll get those already committed to 40k to pick it up as well.

Couldn't agree more with the above post.

I'm hoping its an Inquisition game as I'd definitely pick it up.

After not realizing the beauty of the Hulk models until it was to late and the price was just to much to justify, I will not be letting this one slip through my fingers as easily.

CW

I'm going to take the pessimistic angle on this and say that GW is going to screw it up somehow in this perfect storm where they release something that is completely the opposite of what players are hoping for.

A supported Inquisimunda 28mm? Skirmishing warbands of models across a cool board full of terrain? Nope.

I have this image in my head of figures standing in static positions on their stat cards in a line in front of the player, with each player rolling "attacks" at each other, while cards representing "thematic terrain" are scattered between them that will modify the dice rolls. If you are lucky you can move a figure from in front of you "snap" onto one of the pieces of terrain, or are moved to be in contact with an opposing figure that they are "fighting in melee combat" with.

They could make a "great" collectible angle to the whole shebang and have the terrain cards and figure cards (accompanying psychic powers and wargear, too?) increase in power/effectiveness as they increase in rarity.

There would be no actual figures released for the game other than a basic core set. You would instead any further be using your 40K figures (so that players are still putting money into the "core" game of 40K, rather than stealing from it). If you want to have your "Space Marine" figure to be a more powerful "Space Marine Veteran with Plasma pistol" you have to buy enough boosters to collect one of the corresponding cards.

Ok, pessimism off. I've had my fun, lol (and scared myself silly with thoughts of how likely GW would be of doing the above idea) .

I too would love to see a skirmish game of 40K come to fruition, if not for the sole purpose of rekindling my nostalgic days of Gorkamorka and Necromunda, but with figures that are easier to get at the present time. I liked the theme of Inquisitor, but not the rules. I am actually an avid fan of the indie-game "In the Emperor's Name", which is basically a rules-light version of 40K skirmish.

That is the most out of left field, unreasonable, and frankly flying rodent gak insane idea I've seen in news and rumors. There's pretty much an equal chance that the mystery box would contain medical waste, or nothing but a crudely scribbled drawing of Jervis Johnson giving you the bird.

 Brother SRM wrote:
That is the most out of left field, unreasonable, and frankly flying rodent gak insane idea I've seen in news and rumors. There's pretty much an equal chance that the mystery box would contain medical waste, or nothing but a crudely scribbled drawing of Jervis Johnson giving you the bird.

Nice vision that!

As universal as the bird is I'm pretty sure if Jervis was going to flip us off it would look something like a peace sign to us Yankees.

And GW could deliver a product that is easier to ship, but just as useful as a box of medical waste to myself, say for example blood bowl

Personally I eagerly await the new box set, in the hope it is something cool.
Nobody expects the inquisition.

That is the most out of left field, unreasonable, and frankly flying rodent gak insane idea I've seen in news and rumors. There's pretty much an equal chance that the mystery box would contain medical waste, or nothing but a crudely scribbled drawing of Jervis Johnson giving you the bird.

Well, it was a snarky post involving the dumbest thing I could possibly think of GW doing with a game, so there's that. Especially as it took several ideas from games I know to have been in development. Hell, if Rackham hadn't screwed up bad enough for some people with their PPP Confrontation, a card/mini game like the goofiness I posted that was exactly their next idea in the pipeline. Don't tell me that GW wouldn't love to make a successful collectible game.

In all reality, I am worried that GW is just going to be over-hyping a "one and done" limited edition box set like Space Hulk and Dreadfleet, which will kind of spit in the face of all the fans that have been lusting for a good 40K skirmish game to be fully supported by GW. I would be much more than pleasantly surprised if this new game ends up being something that remains available for anything more then a woefully short time.

If anything, it would do a lot to reinvigorate my practice of buying 40K products which has dramatically fallen as of late.

A thought occurred to me while at the hobby shop today, mulling over 30 to 50 dollars boxes that contained less figures than I could count on both hands.

An easy way to support a new skirmish game. One that's an entryway drug that still gets people buying into "core" product that eventually leads to bigger and more expensive purchases.

THE RETURN OF BLISTER PACKS.

Smaller sprue sections like the current clamshells, two or three figures that can bolster forces for both games.

But then I remember seeing the 20 dollar individual figures today and know that won't happen.



Plus in the end I couldn't pull the trigger for the GW stuff and got a bunch of inexpensive Reaper blisters. Which then got me all reminiscing about saving my allowance when I was a kid so I could afford to buy a blister pack or two because they were actually affordable for a kid who saved up a few bucks.

Then I started reminiscing even more about all the games that GW used to have on the shelf. Whatever they spring on us, I just hope it's a complete game in and of itself.

 Alpharius wrote:
After all of this, I'm going to be really disappointed f it isn't some sort of 28mm scaled Inquisitor/Warbands/Necromunda-hybrid thing.

No. It's going to be 54mm scale Inquisitor in...



BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!

Seriously, though. It's Dreadfleet in space. Wait and see.

inquisitor skirmish sounds far to awesome to be a resonably priced gateway game....or that could just be GW sense of humour, buy our gateway product to get used to the insain price of our games, infact weve made it so poor value for money that by comparison even failcast blisters will seem like pick and mix! Enjoy kids and remember if your perents dont have credit cards get the feth out of our stores!

sad thing is im probably still going to buy it due too the first six words i typed...lol

 Breotan wrote:
Seriously, though. It's Dreadfleet in space. Wait and see.

Grimfleet 40,000 - In the grim darkness of the 41st Millennium, there are only fleets!

Or just call it Battlefleet Gothic?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Seriously, though. It's Dreadfleet in space. Wait and see.

Grimfleet 40,000 - In the grim darkness of the 41st Millennium, there are only fleets!

No, if a Grimfleet were in the works, Mantic would have released one a month ago. But they released Bloodbowl first and a 40k skirmish now, so Inquisition it will be

 Kroothawk wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Seriously, though. It's Dreadfleet in space. Wait and see.

Grimfleet 40,000 - In the grim darkness of the 41st Millennium, there are only fleets!

No, if a Grimfleet were in the works, Mantic would have released one a month ago. But they released Bloodbowl first and a 40k skirmish now, so Inquisition it will be

Correction, Mantic would have started a Kickstarter that delivers in 6 months.

First of all sorry in advance for grammar mistakes I am not a native English speaker.
I would be very happy if GW puts out game which walks on trails of Gorka Morka, Necromunda etc, because nowdays with insane pricing and, in my opinion, not so good models (I am only playing chaos for a long long time and just cant stand aesthetics of fiends, drakes or lord of skulls or whatever name that abomination has) I dont need anything new and definitely wouldnt consider myself an impulsive buyer. I am occasionally looking on ebay for those OOP chaos raptors cause I never had money to buy them when they were actual (before elongated helm raptors).
I see people mostly think that GW is not going release Inq because lack of big boxes, but wasnt there some talking about forbiding sites to sell bits-and only way to get bits is their boxes. Next we see "probing" of market with those clamp packed single models with prices reaching old rhino price . Maybe they shut down specialist games because they cant support so many systems anymore, market has evolved, long gone are days when they could release two codexes per year without fear of customers losing interest, everything is faster paced nowadays and generally people have much shorter "concentration" period before they lose interest.
So, game like this could fill this space very nicely and I am definitely sure that they are more than capable of releasing great rules because they proved so many times over the years and also if it shows popular they could win back some of the veteran players.
Hope that I managed to present you my view on the situation with my not so great written english.
P.S. It will probably be dreadfleet in spaaace...