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Here's a rumored price list for new August GW releases via Pins Of War. Notice the 40K Mini-rulebook Gamer's Edition on the list. Is it the same book that comes in Dark Vengeance with some accompanying swag or gaming accessories? I guess we'll know in a few days if it goes up for pre-order when the Lizardmen stuff also goes up for pre-order.

In any case, this is good news for people who need a small rulebook, but who don't wish to buy Dark Vengeance.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=373506219445436&set=a.269565519839507.63109.199040466892013&type=1&theater

...£40 for the mini rulebook? Am I reading that correctly? The big one's £45 and Dark Vengeance is £61.50. Someone's fudged their prices, or, if that's the actual price, GW's pulled a derp.

Unless it comes with some kind of really cool swag, I can't see myself paying $50 for a mini rulebook when for the same price again I get a heap of cool models. Interesting find!

If it is a "Gamer's Edition" it will come with some kind of gaming accessories, perhaps even limited edition ones. All of GW's "Gamer's Editions" till now have been a rule book packaged with other items and in most cases at least some of the items have been limited edition whether it be dice, special templates, a satchel or bag of some sort or even most recently an army carrying case. At the price point give, I would expect it to be along the lines of smaller items like dice or templates and maybe a small satchel or something similarly sized.

Considering that you can pick up a mini rulebook for under £20, I guess GW's thinking that the additional goodies are worth the same, or more as the book itself. Meh, I suppose people will still buy the thing, but to me it seems like a dumb thing to do.

"Gamer's Edition" is GW's Happy Meal:
Add some cheap toys and people will be crazy about cheap products for premium prices

"Producing rulebooks and Codices isn't profitable enough. Suggestions?"
"Double the prices."
"We have a winner!"

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Considering that you can pick up a mini rulebook for under £20, I guess GW's thinking that the additional goodies are worth the same, or more as the book itself. Meh, I suppose people will still buy the thing, but to me it seems like a dumb thing to do.

Picking up the mini rulebook for under 20 GBP means finding someone who bought multiple Dark Vengeance boxed sets.

Bits sellers who dealt directly with GW or distributors who carried GW products are no longer able to break boxed sets up--and even then, most bits sellers were charging anywhere from $30 to $35 for the mini rulebooks from the starter boxes.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
...£40 for the mini rulebook? Am I reading that correctly? The big one's £45 and Dark Vengeance is £61.50. Someone's fudged their prices, or, if that's the actual price, GW's pulled a derp.

Exchange rate brings it in at £32 not £40.
Plus US prices are slightly higher than the direct exchange rate prices.

So we're probably looking at £25 - £30.

Of course it won't line up as exact price wise in comparison to Dark Vengeance- it has £150 worth of models in!

No, it's £40. I think you looking at the trade price. It's $59.50, which is actually £39. I would therefor guess at £35. I would guess, as that is only £10 less than the hardback book, that there will be some stuff. Given that a set of dice and templates is £20 it may be good value if you want whatever is with it.

 Kroothawk wrote:
"Gamer's Edition" is GW's Happy Meal:
Add some cheap toys and people will be crazy about cheap products for premium prices

"Producing rulebooks and Codices isn't profitable enough. Suggestions?"
"Double the prices."
"We have a winner!"

This is Great News!

I know it is hip to bash on prices, but without knowing what is in the Gamer's Edition it is kind of hard to pass legit judgement. I was a big fan of the other Gamer's Edition.

It probably comes with templates and special dice.

 BrookM wrote:
It probably comes with templates and special dice.

Which, at $15 a pop, makes the book $20. Makes more sense, even if it is a bit high.

My guess is the $59 price tag is Canadian and the $49 price tag is USD.

I would bet my mothers hips it will come with "limited edition" templates and tiny dice

 Fishboy wrote:
My guess is the $59 price tag is Canadian and the $49 price tag is USD.

That's usually how these leaks work.

I hate GW they cost too much and they don't care about me....


Am I doing this right?

If you want a small rule book, but don't want the models in DV or can't be bothered to sell them, then this is a product for you. I actually wanted this exact thing, but ended up starting a DA army and luckily finding a DV set minus the CSM on eBay.

The Division Of Joy wrote:
I hate GW they cost too much and they don't care about me....


Am I doing this right?

If you want a small rule book, but don't want the models in DV or can't be bothered to sell them, then this is a product for you. I actually wanted this exact thing, but ended up starting a DA army and luckily finding a DV set minus the CSM on eBay.

You need a little more "The models are so ugly and not detailed" and some "I hate Matt Ward"

The Division Of Joy wrote:
I hate GW they cost too much and they don't care about me....


.

Spot on!

 Kroothawk wrote:
"Gamer's Edition" is GW's Happy Meal:
Add some cheap toys and people will be crazy about cheap products for premium prices

"Producing rulebooks and Codices isn't profitable enough. Suggestions?"
"Double the prices."
"We have a winner!"

The satchel really isn't bad, I quite like mine and the limited vortex grenade case is cool if you don't have a bunch of cases.

Presumably this includes templates and dice. This is actually a good deal, in my opinion, for someone new to the game.

Not a great deal, but not bad.

 Steve steveson wrote:
No, it's £40. I think you looking at the trade price. It's $59.50, which is actually £39. I would therefor guess at £35. I would guess, as that is only £10 less than the hardback book, that there will be some stuff. Given that a set of dice and templates is £20 it may be good value if you want whatever is with it.

Oh yeah, my mistake, fair enough!

 cincydooley wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
I hate GW they cost too much and they don't care about me....


.

Spot on!

Aha, not quite! It's compulsory to have the "that's double/triple the price it was when I last bought something similar" or the "When I started playing, GW cared about the community". You can also throw in a sarcastic comment about it being "great news" or an equivalent. Apart from that, you've pretty much got it.

Back on topic, I'll wait to see what else there is to the package before passing judgement. Could be quite cool, I like the idea of a satchel with a tape measure and a dice tin.

I doubt it will have a satchel for $50. Dice and Templates? Sure.

What would really be nice would be if this bundle included the mini rulebook, templates, a few dice, and a key to redeem the ebook edition to use with a tablet.

"I'll take "Things That Won't Happen" for $200, Alex."

 Ouze wrote:
What would really be nice would be if this bundle included the mini rulebook, templates, a few dice, and a key to redeem the ebook edition to use with a tablet.

Also, a puppy.

Yeah, that would be awesome.

 pretre wrote:
I know it is hip to bash on prices, but without knowing what is in the Gamer's Edition it is kind of hard to pass legit judgement. I was a big fan of the other Gamer's Edition.

People want the mini rulebook as a cheap alternative to the hardcover. Selling it at the price of the hardcover is missing the point.
BTW there is kind of a Gamer's edition already, with templates, dice and even two mini armies

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I know it is hip to bash on prices, but without knowing what is in the Gamer's Edition it is kind of hard to pass legit judgement. I was a big fan of the other Gamer's Edition.

People want the mini rulebook as a cheap alternative to the hardcover. Selling it at the price of the hardcover is missing the point.
BTW there is kind of a Gamer's edition already, with templates, dice and even two mini armies

For twice the price.

 Ouze wrote:
What would really be nice would be if this bundle included the mini rulebook, templates, a few dice, and a key to redeem the ebook edition to use with a tablet.

"I'll take "Things That Won't Happen" for $200, Alex."

First day buy if it comes with a digital voucher. I still don't have a 6th rulebook and borrowing and mooching is cumbersome.

(Yes I would rather buy more models than a $75 rulebook or models for two armies I don't play. Shame on me.)

Krooty got it. People buy the small rule book because they get it for ~10$ on ebay, not because it's handy to have - and yeah, a pack sure is nice, but I could just buy a small rulebook from ebay / 2nd hand in general and then buy proper dice and a bag from Chessex etc. for less than the GW package

My guess is that it's just the non-mini stuff from the DV set.

Do you still get the swizzle/whippy sticks in boxes these days? I figure book+dice+templates is probably the right price point for GW, the tape measure would push it over the top. But toss in a few sticks of cheap plastic, and you can bill it as "everything you need to play, barring the minis"