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 Ironwill13791 wrote:
That picture just needs a couple more dead orks.

If by "a couple" you mean a "3 foot tall pile or dead Ork models with the Crimson Fists standing atop the pile" then I agree.

Crimson Fists ftw! I would def snap up a LE codex if one of them was CFs. Failing that I shall have to get the Imp one.

Im betting the new tactical marine box of 10 marines will go at around 40 euro's.

 Leth wrote:
Also usually they operate in concert with guard regiments and other such forces.

Even then at chapter strength they can take entire planets, they isolate primary objectives and cripple/wipe out their opponents.

"In concert" indeed, and thats why IG are so Scared of Blood angels. Its a good thing Gabriel Seth figured out his Flesh Tearers must arrive early to the battle
to prevent IG casualties and avoid vitnesses to their wholesale slaughter. Thats public relations 40k style

*Sets aside Codex money*.

I hope the vanguard get some decent alterations points-wise. Whole new rhino variant rather than updating the whirlwind is a bit lame (be hunting down just the turret pieces if true). Plastic chaplain would be nice, might hold off sawing up my old metal one. Centurions & grav-weapons, sure, why not. Not like I'll ever get around to painting them anyway

Bit concerned with this new AA tank do we really need two AA tanks? Do we need any? I'd rather it had interceptor and cost alot than only have skyfire and be a dust collector.
Hopfully it can remove jinx saves to.

As for the Grav Gun, don't forgeworld already do a grav gun armed set of boarding troops? What's the general rules idea behind them?
Will be strange if it's completely different him called the same...

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/08/no-longer-rumors-here-is-space-marine.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Faeit212+%28Faeit+212%29

Some rumours/confirmations about the space marines release.


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ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ironwill13791 wrote:
That picture just needs a couple more dead orks.

If by "a couple" you mean a "3 foot tall pile or dead Ork models with the Crimson Fists standing atop the pile" then I agree.

By ork measures that is "a couple". But I digress to Crimson Fists vs. Orks is awesome. Maybe C. FIsts will get preferred enemy (orks) when the codex drops in September. It would fit along with the chapter tactics.

via anonymous sources
Space Marine Codex
176 pages!!!!! $58
by Robin Cruddace
Cover pic is a close up Ultra Marine pointing forward into battle

War Zone: Damnos
by Phil Kelly
68pages $33

Space Marine Stalker/Hunter
$65
The three barreled Stalker and the Single large barreled Hunter

Space Marine Reclusiam Command Squad
$90
Includes Razorback 5 man command squad and a space marine chaplin

Space Marine Captain
1 model $30

Space Marine Librarian
1 model $30

Space Marine Strikeforce
39 models $220

Space Marine Centurion Devastator/ Assault Squad
3 models $78

Space Marine Tactical Squad
10 models $40

Space Marine Sternguard
5 models $50

Space Marine Vanguard
5 models $40

Oh, Cruddace.

And again an Ultramarine cover.... pay more if you don't want blue ...

How many warzone's are published right now?

Holy fart those are expensive. Puppetswar here I come!

Well, if the tactical box stays at $40 for 10 models, that's actually not too terrible...

I'll be dissapointed if the 5-man vanguard and sternguard boxes are at the $50 PP and not the $33 PP.

From Endobai over on Warseer:

Ok. Some info from the White Dwarf. Not much, no images because I've promised and the forum rules.
No PM with requests please - soon it will leak smewhere anyway.

Black Templars are back in the Codex SM, but seem to keep everything - Crusader squad is there, Neophytes too, Emperor's Champion as well.
Don't know about the vows, though.

The codex is MASSIVE- 176 pages, so almost twice as big as other books in this edition. Slightly more expensive, but seems like a good deal. Still FW books are cheaper (per page), but this book might be like the most flexible SM codex ever considering it covers the BT within its core rules (traits? Most likely).

Veteran boxes - Vanguards and Sternguards are separate boxes. Sternguards are a bit cheaper.

Both have massive number of heads, with helmeted and unhelmeted options.


Tactical isn't too expensive for so many new options including two of the new grav weapons.
Sadly, it seems there is only one Mk VIII Errant chestplate, but maybe I'll find more later.

Hunter/Stalker is a combi-set covering two AA tanks with different weapons.


Centurions are big and expensive, in a set of three - about the Land Raider price, but seem to come on 60 mm bases so like SM bigger (more options) KillaKans.

When asked about the aesthetic of the Centurions:

Hmm, hard to say. I am an Eldar player...

Similar to a bigger Techmarine with some additional armour plates and big arm weapons + chest/armpit weapons.
Yep, KillaKan or loyalist Obliterators seem like a good description.

Marine heads look really small in this super armor.

And:

Feet like small Dreadnought feet mixed with Terminator armour.
Legs similar to the Techmarine (artificier armour).
Chest. Hmm... bigger with ornaments.
Shoulder pads similar to the old FW Terminator armour - like in the FW Cataphractii armour, but no leather strips and seem too big.
Arms just overloaded with weaponry. Like bigger Terminator arms with weapons attached to them.

EDIT2: More from Endobai, this time regarding the contents of the Tac and Stern/Vanguard boxes;

More info.

There is definetely more archaic armour pieces in the Tactical set.

I've noticed Mk VI legs as before and Mk V Heresy chest plates. Maybe even for Mk VI Corvus, but the angle doesn't allow to confirm that.
Looks like there is a Mk IV Maximus helmet and Mk IV legs (!).



Sternguards

One Mk IV bionic helmet (and the rest of the armour seems like Maximus too).
Corvus armour legs and helmet for sure. The chest is as always a problem.
The pissed off Marine with beard head is really great.

Vanguards

Mk IV, Mk VI helmets and legs. The mohawk head looks great.

EDIT3: More on the contents of the Tac squad(still Endobai);

It says something about 8 weapon options for the sergeant alone. It includes combi-weapon, but only one apparently because it is assembled from parts. Guess with some conversion skills it will make a nice set.

Special weapons. I am not really certain. The grav-rifle is there, I didn't see flamer, but it should be there, neither melta, but plasma is shown.

Missile launcher for the heavy for sure and I believe that would be all in this entry. Flakk missiles will be available (battle report), but everyone knew that.






Cover of the codex

It shows one Ultramarine officer and seems generally similar to the cover of the Eldar codex. Interesting, but there will be an Apocalypse warzone supplement/book for a campaing involving Ultramarines - it is based on a battle/campaign described in one of the Space Marine Battles Black Library novel.

EDIT4:
On Black Templars;

Endobai wrote:I've noticed they have a sergeant with a different name and access to sternguard veterans and all other stuff the SM get. Probably it is limited somehow (no proper scouts?), but it is hard to say.

Regarding Centurions;

Shown in Imperial Fists colours and description tells something about siege equipment (have combat drills much like the FW dreadnough arm). Iron Hands are shown with tacticals and sternguards, but not with the Centurions.

About the new AA dual kit;

One seems to have split fire or something similar.

EDIT5: Still Endobai, Strenguard are apparently combi-palooza;

Sternguards.

Many, many, many combi-weapons. Looks like hv.bolter and heavy flamer are both there.

Interesting, but it seems they've decided to split offensive weapons and combi/ranged options from the veteran finecast set so Vanguards got all close combat options (relic blade, lightning claws, TH and SS, power axe etc).

A nice touch is that Vanguards are shown in Raven Guard colours (except obligatory Ultramarine photos).

EDIT:

Right, that's it for the moment apparently. If this is on the money, GW might just have won me over, even on the Centurions(although for myself I'll likely still only make use of their rules, for counts-as AdMech Praetorians). Loads of bitz everywhere, boxes that actually contain most-if-not-all of the options for the unit, and a Marine book that is both more expansive and more inclusive.

A bit bummed about the Van/Sternguard being separate kits. New Tacs look pretty reasonably priced. The Captain and the Librarian are a bit ridiculous though at £20. I'll probably pick up one of eac of the new boxes except for the centurions £45 to steep.

Let the hysteria began.

So is it safe the say the limited editions will break $100. Or maybe sit at $99/$98?

Space Marine Codex 176 pages!!!!! $58

Space Marine Stalker/Hunter $65: The three barreled Stalker and the Single large barreled Hunter

Space Marine Reclusiam Command Squad $90: Includes Razorback 5 man command squad and a space marine Chaplin!

Space Marine Centurion Devastator/ Assault Squad 3 models $78

Space Marine Sternguard 5 models $50

Space Marine Vanguard 5 models $40

Well my wallet is going to need sextuple bypass after this.

I don't think it's new it's probably just a 1-click bundle.

Hey guys

I managed to get a deeper look into the upcoming White Dwarf which obviously showcases the new SM stuff. I promised not to take any pictures and since my possible future early insight into WD depends on it - I won't
Take it as you wish, but this isn't salt - this is what exactly is coming

BOOKS:
- Codex: Space Marines with a very nice picture of badass looking Space Marine (probably best C:SM cover so far)
- confirmed the 7 limited versions
- none showed in WD, all mentioned obviously as mail-order only
- small Apocalypse Warzone will also be released (unsure if it's digital only or not) - Damnos (see the BL book "Fall of Damnos" - basicly Necrons vs. Ultramarines)

PLASTIC KITS:

Space Marine Captain & Space Marine Librarian (2 separate clamp-packs)
- not to confuse with multi-part customisable Space Marines Commander set which should stay around
- those are like Cadre Fireblade, Aspiring Champion etc... 1 pose, plastic
- Captain has Cato Sicarius-like helmet and lots of bling, has a very similar pose to Captain from AOBR, Power Sword and Combi-Grav
- Librarian has beard (a lot of SM beards + bald heads in this release ) and a skull-cap thingy wihich makes him look a bit like... Merlin
- Librarian also has a power staff (or whatever you call that) held horizontally, and one ugly herub-like servitor cupid (creepy stuff)

Reclusiam Command Squad
- not sure if this replaces SM Command Squad kit
- contains the mentioned SM Command Squad (don't see any changes here), a plastic Chaplain and... Razorback - all for 55£
- this definetly isn't the prettiest Chaplain model out there but it has some nice bitz, nice big skully Crozius and 2 heads - one bald with Kano-like face implant and the other is a skull helmet (looks a bit iffy)
- he also has purity seals with massive ribbons/parchments blown by the wind

Sternguard Veterans
- A W E S O M E!
- all the best elements fromt heir old metal versions, long loincloths, tons of bling, ornaments on helmets and armor, seems to have lot of bitz
- finally we get plastic versions of combi-weapons, all seem to be here including the new Combi-Grav
- nice new plastic Heavy Flamer and Heavy Bolter (version with drum-mag)
- badass heads and poses (yap, another bald head with beard)
- sergeant has a "roman-mohawk" on his helmet (not the Sicarius one, other way around )
- 5 models in box

Vanguard Veterans
- slightly less bling then their on-foot veteran brothers
- nice ornaments on chainswords and power sword (relic/master-crafted versions?)
- mohawk head for sarge (like Lord Executioner, perhaps it's a trend for jump-packers? )
- some nice aquila markings on jump packs
- awesome power-sword / relic blade
- not as jaw dropping as Sternguards, sadly
- 5 models in box

(NEW) Tactical Squad
- 10 models, price increased slightly (we could have seen that coming, couldn't we? )
- not many changes here, will nicely mix with bits from old kit
- major addition is more head variants and new Grav-Gun and Grav-Pistol
- some new ornaments on backpacks and shoulder pads (not all, just few bits to make some difference among marines)
- interesting bits: Auspex is back! (but DA heralded that already), set of bolter/arms during reload (looks cool), badass Combi-Flamer, nice new (smaller) Power Fist
- I would suggest buying a box of Tactical Squad that's currently in sale before next month (it'll surely be gone by then) to have a wider array of bits (unless you already have tons of them )

Now let's clear some rumors regarding new vehicles:
- NO new rhino kit, still the same, old, badly cast chassis with massive holes after you glue it :((
- NO new versions of Razorback / Predator / Whirlwind - all stays the same apparently
- NO sign of Rhino-variants (but perhaps they just differ rule-wise)
- NO "Big Walker" - forget about Dreadknight / Riptide / Wraithknight counterpart for SM :((
- NO new Skimmers / Flyers (especially no sign of one that was mentioned in rumours recently)
- NO new Bikes, Landriders or Dreadnaughts :(
- basicly, unless I mention it as a kit above or below - it's not getting any update / remake / new model

Stalker / Hunter
- the rumored dual-kit AA tank
- lots of new parts, side armor is massive and has some kind of pistons that seem to be pinning it to the ground
- front plate is also different from other vehicles on Rhino-chassis: Stalker / Hunter has one that looks a bit Heresy-era with a "bumper" that looks similarly to the one Landspeeder has (that belt-of-cubes bumper thing)

- Stalker is the one with dual 3-barrel autocannon-like guns, it also has a nice radar dish, really badass look
- it's described as rapid-firing AA (guess it's SM version of IG Hydra)
- now here's big thing: it's not twin-link! those are TWO SEPARATE guns that are mentioned to be able to shoot at TWO SEPARATE targets

- Hunter is the one that looks like that vintage SM Hunter tank - one massive AA turret barrel
- shoots "Skyspear Rockets" but no details on special rules here

Centurion Devastator Squad / Centurion Assault Squad
- the "Big Suits" everyone is talking about, apparently they are this release's big spotlight
- Devastators are Heavy Support (duh!) and Assaults are... Fast Attack (what did you expect?)
- come in plastic kits, 3 models per box
- they really look like if the exoskelton is worn ON the Power Armour - their heads look super tiny
- they remind me more of power loader that Ripley piloted in Aliens movie than "child of contemptor and dread" as someone described
- they all seem to have same weapon in each hand and something mounted on the chest
- the Devastator options displayed contained Lascannons and Heavy Bolters
- the Assault options were Breaching Drills (like that arm FW's Siege Dread has) with Stormbolters(?) attached, no other arm option shown
- the "chest weapon" apparently gave us choice of : frag lanuchers, mini-hurricane bolter (?!) and some rockets (chest mounted Typhoon ML?)
- it will take some time getting used to those models on battlefield but with their bulky simplicity they will surely be canon part of fluff in few years


That's all I remember. Hope it will give you some idea / clear some things up
Cheers!

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/no-longer-rumors-here-is-space-marine.html

Oh dear god apparently Cruddace has written the book.

My mistake.

$220 for 39 models...

And the new tactical set better be damn pretty if they are upping the price to $4 per model.

Now let's just hope that Assault Marines are worth taking.

Great write up Dexter. Thanks for the info!

Wauv. Selling my liver as we speak.

And i am ditching food next month, could stand to loose a few pounds anyways...

But Cruddace as author? I have a baaaad feeling about this.

ClockworkZion wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/08/space-marine-large-walker-debunked-and.html

I doubt it was the FW model but the Centurian's green if anything was seen at all. Either way, no Space Marine MC!

Oh look, Natfka debunks himself. lol

This lack of pictures is driving me crazy!

I have heard nothing but bad things about this guy. Has he written Anything codex wise that was good I could use to get a idea on his writing? I had the Nids' codex and..ugh.. I'm not dropping a Ton of money on it if it's Nids' good. Also, Any info on the supplement at all? (or am I just blind)

 Arrathon wrote:
I have heard nothing but bad things about this guy. Has he written Anything codex wise that was good I could use to get a idea on his writing? I had the Nids' codex and..ugh.. I'm not dropping a Ton of money on it if it's Nids' good. Also, Any info on the supplement at all? (or am I just blind)

Imperial Guard. People hate it but it has held up.

I'm starting to regret my 4000+ points of Blood Ravens since I won't be able to join in the founding chapters-festivities.

Dat devastator and assault marine price...3 models? Unless they severely tweak the way those units work that is a huuuuuge ripoff.

$35 bucks for 5 metal models didn't seem too bad for sternguards and vanguards...but this...ugh.

I know I know, generic gw whining,,.i haven't purchased anything in months though, my household income is close to 100k a year with no kids, and I still can't get myself to buy anymore. It's sad because I used to love this hobby and picking up new things.

Also cruddace, as a guy with a tyranid army, that worries me.

BrotherVord wrote:
Dat devastator and assault marine price...3 models? Unless they severely tweak the way those units work that is a huuuuuge ripoff.

They are allegedly Centurions. I.e. Bigger than termy armor with huge guns. Think Crisis Suit size.

One positive is that while there is infinite possibility for a feth over, SM are so firmly established, and it seems are going to have so many options that the odds are there will be enough to make solid lists, even if some of it sucks.

Also, and I'm totally open to being corrected in this, haven't Cruddace's last few books for Fantasy been pretty decent?

Do we know if the jump packs in the vanguard vets kit will have seams still ? Sounds like the kit might be too expensive and blingy to use as ASM but I wonder if they will release them as bitz.