Codex: Space Marines [First post updated 27-08-2013 - Leaked White Dwarf images added]

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**Liquid Squid**

AHReese wrote:
spartiatis wrote:
AHReese wrote:
Fezman wrote:
adamsouza wrote:
Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
New post by Faeit 212:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/08/new-space-marine-anti-air.html

If these rumors are true (and I hope they are) these new AA vehicles might be a meta-changer.

How about a copy and paste here on Dakka, so I can read it without being blocked by my work filters, please and thank you

Here it is:

natfka wrote:
Now that we are aware of what models are coming, lets take a look at the new anti-air of the Space Marines. There is a new box set that you can build either variant, the Space Marine Stalker or the Space Marine Hunter

Officially until there is an announcement, we still have to classify these as rumors.

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
The Space Marine Stalker
Comes with a Icarus Stormcannon Array. Both of these turrets can move independently, and can shoot at two targets at once. Both turrets are three barreled guns.

Space Marine Hunter
Fires a Skyspear Missile from a large single barrel.

Both tanks have several side stabilizers and appear to more heavily armoured along the front and sides. (no stats)

3 LasCannon shots at 2 targets each. Ha. If that has Interceptor as well. Double ha.

Noone said they are lascannon shots ... I wish They are "stormcannons" ... Time will tell if they are worth it

True. I saw the Icarus and my mind made up the rest! Although a new cannon!? Wonder if that will fall at Str8, in between the Auto and Las?

I think Krak missiles have that ground covered, but I don't know what else it could be.

**Crazyterran**

It's gonna be like the Skyhammer Missile Launcher.

Really just a three shot autocannon. >.>

**ace101**

Any word on what the chapter tactics will be like? Will it be similar to 4th edition (for generic characters too), or more 5th Edition (special characters)? One of the rumors said that there were chapter tactics in the codex, but no specifics were said.

**hotsauceman1**

Damn those prices, Looks like my eldar force will have to wait a bit,

**jah-joshua**

honestly, my pocket may not be happy about it, but i'm glad they are doing seperate Vanguard and Sternguard boxes...
if you look at the present kits, the Vanguard are leaping, while the Sternguard are standing still or striding forward...
one kit, or the other, would have had to suffer...
i wan't my Vanguard dynamic, buti don't know about leaping Sternguard...

at least, between both kits, we will have a lot of cool new bits

...
looks like the last few discounters around will be busy next month...

cheers
jah

**jspyd3rx**

OMFG!! Why does no one have the cohones to put up the pics?! Is GW really that scary? Couldn't someone just give the pics to a friend to post? It's not like you'll end up in Russia with Snoden.

**Neronoxx**

jspyd3rx wrote:
OMFG!! Why does no one have the cohones to put up the pics?! Is GW really that scary? Couldn't someone just give the pics to a friend to post? It's not like you'll end up in Russia with Snoden.

A couple of blurry pictures of plastic models is worth getting fired? Riiiiiiight....

**Pyriel-**

Anyone else wondering what on earth the centurions are there for?
I mean what will they bring to the army that they dont already have?

The assault versions seem to be just like the chaos marine maulers, nobody ever takes them.
So why should I take 3 beefed up assault marines at almost landraider cost when I can take a hammernator squad?
Why take three shooty things when there are devastators?

I´m guessing they will cost 80-ish points a piece, come with 2A and 2W (possibly 3w). So why should I take that over 10 bodies that come with 4 heavy weapons and dont die from 1-2 lance hits? The hellturkey threat is already diminished and will be more so with the aaa tanks.

**Neronoxx**

I'm sure they will have some kind of role that is relevant to the codex. They may not end up the best at it, but they probably won't be useless. Most of the new units, excluding the wraithknight, have been very good to moderately priced.

**dienekes96**

Neronoxx wrote:
jspyd3rx wrote:
OMFG!! Why does no one have the cojones to put up the pics?! Is GW really that scary? Couldn't someone just give the pics to a friend to post? It's not like you'll end up in Russia with Snowden.

A couple of blurry pictures of plastic models is worth getting fired? Riiiiiiight....

Nope. But some clear pictures would be worth someone else getting fired.

Let's get this done.

**Neronoxx**

Touche

**Liquid Squid**

If the Centurions turn out nicely, I hope we'll eventually see Legion Centurions as well.

**Marthike**

Time to build a 18 man Centurion army.

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
Centurion Devastator Squad
These guys come with guns mounted into the sides of their chest plates, not to mention that they are carrying even more guns. Under both fists, they can carry Heavy Bolters, Lascannons, or Grav-Cannons. While their chests sports an array of either Hurricane Bolters or Missile Launcher. Whoa.... that is some amazing firepower.

Centurion Devastator Squad
These guys come with Siege Drills on each arm, with either flamer or melta attachments. While this alone would be a tremendous amount of firepower, they too come with chest mounted Hurricane Bolters or Ironclad Assault Launcher. If you were curious which models you need to shoot at first, these qualify with extreme prejudice.

With this amount of firepower they might actully be worth the points (depends on what points) I hope they have a good stats line too.

**hotsauceman1**

Looks like Im going to have to pick up magnets for the centaurians. God my wallet may never recover

**Tyberos the Red Wake**

Pyriel- wrote:
Anyone else wondering what on earth the centurions are there for?
I mean what will they bring to the army that they dont already have?

The assault versions seem to be just like the chaos marine maulers, nobody ever takes them.
So why should I take 3 beefed up assault marines at almost landraider cost when I can take a hammernator squad?
Why take three shooty things when there are devastators?

I´m guessing they will cost 80-ish points a piece, come with 2A and 2W (possibly 3w). So why should I take that over 10 bodies that come with 4 heavy weapons and dont die from 1-2 lance hits? The hellturkey threat is already diminished and will be more so with the aaa tanks.

Instead of buffing Devastators to be usable they replace them with the tactical Centurions. Instead of making Dreadnoughts better and changing their crippling Walker status to Monstrous Creatuer or something along those lines, assault Centurions are replacing Ironclad Dreadnoughts.

**Crimson**

I found these at BoLS forums:

**H.B.M.C.**

Crimson wrote:
http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/08/08/i1Stg.jpg

Guns guns guns!

Crimson wrote:
http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/08/08/Fvpz.jpg

Uhh... *sigh*

It's almost like the design brief was "Try to make Marines even more ill-proportioned!".

**Crimson**

Yeah, Centurions look kinda stupid. I think they will look better with helmets and some conversion work.

**Nosebiter**

Why no helmets?? Seems like a waste of time putting on gigamarine armor and going helmetless? I am hoping a headswap will help with the look of the armor, and that the devastator version looks better. Cant see them being very fast as they look quite wadly.

**Marthike**

LOL the centurions looks so much like mechanicus and kinda stupid but I am still buying them lol

**Liquid Squid**

I'm sure they'll look better with a bit of minor work. Like losing the side-toes in particular. And having some nice Iron helmets.

**ids1984**

Actrually quite like the powersuits, not sure if they should exist along side terminator armour though.

**H.B.M.C.**

Marthike wrote:
LOL the centurions looks so much like mechanicus and kinda stupid but I am still buying them lol

You are everything that is wrong with this hobby (or even this HHHobby).

**Looky Likey**

Liquid Squid wrote:
I'm sure they'll look better with a bit of minor work. Like losing the side-toes in particular. And having some nice Iron helmets.

I agree, cutting the side toes off and sorting out the head would make them look like mini contemptors, much better.

I still have a small hope that they have a jump pack as that would make them very useful, but they appear to have dreadnought style smoke stacks making that unlikely.

**Marthike**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Marthike wrote:
LOL the centurions looks so much like mechanicus and kinda stupid but I am still buying them lol

You are everything that is wrong with this hobby (or even this HHHobby).

well, I might not like them now but in time i will like them lol. I think they are cool but the design is not "love at first sight"

**Bonesnapper**

I think the centurions look frickin' awesome! Thanks for the pics!

**Crimson**

Side toes are nice, they're like dread feet. Main problem is that the arms are way too heavy. Why powerfist and a huge assault drill under it? They'd look much better if there just was a drill in the place of the fist.

**Stormonu**

Gah! Freakin' crotch light!

I'm sure there's a helmeted option, bet it looks like a terminator helmet.

I like the centurions, but I guess I'm odd because I like the Grey Knight Dreadknight.

Wish we were getting some sort of oval-based Titan Knight.

**DeffDred**

Those suits look pants on head slowed.

I now have a new "most hated model".

**MajorWesJanson**

Crimson wrote:
Side toes are nice, they're like dread feet. Main problem is that the arms are way too heavy. Why powerfist and a huge assault drill under it? They'd look much better if there just was a drill in the place of the fist.

If I do decide to run assault centurians, I think that replacing these arms with the Mk IV dreadnought arms from FW may look nice.