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TheMostWize wrote:
I think this is much more fitting...

Not sure if this was posted already but I don't feel like looking through all the pages

Still need a bit of work orkifyling (some exhausts and more stabby bits on the guns), but they look so much better.

That's probably enough about that topic guys - they aren't Raven Guard, they're probably Iron Hands.

Oh no, GW made a model I don't like and I'll have to use to be competitive. I quit the hobby.

Seriously? Just don't use it.

Or use an alternate model

Or force youself to love it like a psychotic girlfriend with abandonment issues.

Did I miss the strenguard?

I was blasting through looking for them as I keep hearing they're the best looking new models.


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 c0j1r0 wrote:
Oh no, GW made a model I don't like and I'll have to use to be competitive. I quit the hobby.

Seriously? Just don't use it.

Yeah man, totally, I mean what's up with all these people sharing their opinions of stuff? It's not like we're on a discussion forum where we discuss things or anything. Gah come on guys, stop, like, talking about stuff.




Anyways...at this point, I've seen things I thought I wouldn't like and don't(Termitubbies), things that aren't bad at all but I don't have much use for(Vanguards + AA Tanks), but all I really want is confirmation of the inclusion of the First Founding chapters(Iron Hands in particular) and the extent of that inclusion, and better/more pics of the Sternguard.

Honestly I think the devastator Centurions look decent enough, at least in the sense that all that armor and the slow moving that most likely comes with it makes sense with ranged units carrying heavy weapons.

The clearer picture helps a lot though too. It will be interesting to see both the Assault and Devastator versions in 360* view.

 Ctan_Overlord wrote:
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Honestly I think the devastator Centurions look decent enough, at least in the sense that all that armor and the slow moving that most likely comes with it makes sense with ranged units carrying heavy weapons.
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I think the legs are just a bit too static even for these, they certainly dont work for a supposed assault squad though.

The proportions just look very off, but its difficult without an idea of size, because if those are 40mm bases these things are smaller than normal termies, if they are 60mm , they are taller than dreads I think.

NoggintheNog wrote:

 Ctan_Overlord wrote:
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Honestly I think the devastator Centurions look decent enough, at least in the sense that all that armor and the slow moving that most likely comes with it makes sense with ranged units carrying heavy weapons.
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I think the legs are just a bit too static even for these, they certainly dont work for a supposed assault squad though.

The proportions just look very off, but its difficult without an idea of size, because if those are 40mm bases these things are smaller than normal termies, if they are 60mm , they are taller than dreads I think.

If I had to guess I would say they are on 60mm bases, otherwise they would be pretty damn tiny for their cost

I consolidated the images here...

I was having too difficult a time finding and rereferencing everything and I just wanted to see it in one place.



http://www.battlebarn.com/ultramarines-get-all-the-best-toys-for-now-t1961.html



Let me know if I missed anything please.

Don't really get all the people talking about them being 'loyalist obliterators'. They're way too big. Doesn't make sense.

Bull0 wrote:
Don't really get all the people talking about them being 'loyalist obliterators'. They're way too big. Doesn't make sense.

Big resilient unit that is taken in a max unit of three which can lay down a varied barrage of heavy weapons fire...

Instead of power armor marines wearing power armor, they should have resculpted the whole line to truescale instead and made the marines look like the 8ft tall power armor steroid freaks they are. I can't think of a reason for those centurions to exist that doesn't completely negate the reason for some other unit. The storm raven/spaceguppy at least plugged a relatively empty hole that the Thunderhawk was doing triple duty filling but these are just plain out of place. Everything they are supposed to do is done supposedly quite well by terminators and/or dreadnoughts. It certainly doesn't help that the models themselves are so ugly as well.

Bull0 wrote:
Don't really get all the people talking about them being 'loyalist obliterators'. They're way too big. Doesn't make sense.

The idea came out of the description of a Marine with multiple weapons in large bulky armor and the internet can never let a joke die, even if it doesn't fit completely (as the Centurians only share Lascannons with the Oblits. For those who don't know, Oblits only use energy weapons because they alter their body to fire them. When they spit plasma cannons shots at you THEIR BLOOD IS BURNING HOT PLASMA, the new suits obviously don't do the same thing).

 warboss wrote:
Instead of power armor marines wearing power armor, they should have resculpted the whole line to truescale instead and made the marines look like the 8ft tall power armor steroid freaks they are.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

That'd make my collection of marines look stupid next to the new ones. That'd be how 95% of marine collecters would feel. Angreh.

Bull0 wrote:
Don't really get all the people talking about them being 'loyalist obliterators'. They're way too big. Doesn't make sense.

But we don't know how big they are!

It's about the size of a broadside...look at the barrels next to them.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Instead of power armor marines wearing power armor, they should have resculpted the whole line to truescale instead and made the marines look like the 8ft tall power armor steroid freaks they are.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

That'd make my collection of marines look stupid next to the new ones. That'd be how 95% of marine collecters would feel. Angreh.

If a collection doesn't look stupid now, it wouldn't look stupid later. My primary marine army is a 2nd edition and earlier all old style/metal 6k force and I don't have any issues using it nor have I ever seen anyone comment badly about someone busting out the old RTB001 figs. Would it ruffle feathers? Sure... but at least it would be a meaningful change on the tabletop visually and not the herpderp that the centurions are.

Yeah, those devestator centurions will certainly find a place in my company. I wonder how they fit into company organization? Will they replace a devestator squad I wonder?

I can't find it now, but did someone say they moved Vanguard to elite to make room for Centurians in FA? Does that mean these are jump infantry? Cause that makes them sound even more awesome.

 warboss wrote:
Instead of power armor marines wearing power armor, they should have resculpted the whole line to truescale instead and made the marines look like the 8ft tall power armor steroid freaks they are. I can't think of a reason for those centurions to exist that doesn't completely negate the reason for some other unit. The storm raven/spaceguppy at least plugged a relatively empty hole that the Thunderhawk was doing triple duty filling but these are just plain out of place. Everything they are supposed to do is done supposedly quite well by terminators and/or dreadnoughts. It certainly doesn't help that the models themselves are so ugly as well.

True Scale screws up the scale of the game of the game itself as then you'd have to change the size of the table to accommodate the new movement ranges, or deal with the fact that the Rhino would be too big to walk from the front to the back of in a single turn (a big reason for its the current size).

I could not have imagined a more ridiculous design. Really I couldn't.

Are those powerfists in with the heavy weapon in each hand or just really big gloves I can't tell.

These leaks are awesome! I can now prepare funds why oh why they keep this all secret is beyond me. Hit with all this later, I would have been unprepared financially. Thank god for these leaks. Now we just need pics of the tactical squads and more stern guard

I don't know what GW has against properly proportioned heads. It all begin with the Dreadknight and has extended to things such as the Riptide as well. Yet again, the Centurions would look much better if they had a properly proportioned helmet.

 ceorron wrote:
I could not have imagined a more ridiculous design. Really I couldn't.

Are those powerfists in with the heavy weapon in each hand or just really big gloves I can't tell.

I can! Same design, but cover them with spikes, give them massive jump packs and warped, clawed feet.

And a pony.

chipstar1 wrote:
I can't find it now, but did someone say they moved Vanguard to elite to make room for Centurians in FA? Does that mean these are jump infantry? Cause that makes them sound even more awesome.

As pointed out by a friend, the grindy ones have the FA marking on shoulders, the shooty ones have the Heavy markings. So I guess lets hope the grindy ones are jump.

 Harriticus wrote:
I don't know what GW has against properly proportioned heads. It all begin with the Dreadknight and has extended to things such as the Riptide as well. Yet again, the Centurions would look much better if they had a properly proportioned helmet.

The helmet is proportional though, the armor is supposed to be THAT BIG. Normal Marine head on because it's a normal Marine clad in enough armor to basically function as his own siege engine.

I made this quick comparison pic to so we can see how Centurion would scale depending on whether it was on 60mm or 40mm base. I still think that 50mm would be a realistic option as both of these look kinda odd.

ClockworkZion wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
I could not have imagined a more ridiculous design. Really I couldn't.

Are those powerfists in with the heavy weapon in each hand or just really big gloves I can't tell.

I can! Same design, but cover them with spikes, give them massive jump packs and warped, clawed feet.

And a pony.

Thats only slightly more ridiculous than these designs.
I'm going with big gloves seen as the close combat ones seem to need the CC attachment on their gloves.