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That looks an almost implausible amount of work, you're completely hacking up the body and thinning the legs, removing the shoulders and then all the resculpting that goes along with it. Why spend the sort of money GW will charge only to totally rebuild the figure? You'd be better off buying any similar miniature and converting that, or making something from scratch. I don't get people paying so much for figures they know they'll have to completely cannibalise to 'fix' them. No wonder GW make money.

See, some people just like converting. I have converted every single model I own. I have an imperial guard army with around about 315 bodies and a Skaven army with around about 250 or so. I have converted each and every individual mook just because I like things to be personalized, unique, something I came up with. I dunno, that's just me. I've always been much more interested in the hobby.

Plus, I like a challenge

Any chance someone could update the first post to include all the new models? My connection isn't the best at work and I don't know which pages of the discussion have which images.


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 Lord Scythican wrote:
Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

Without the dreadnought toes, they look much better. However, that is an easy fix, trying to put those chest launchers on the shoulders is pretty much impossible for the average modeler.

 Crimson wrote:

I like the CC ones marginally better only because the big drills look sort of bad-ass.

Wonder how GW will make them harder to kill than normal terminators guessing they will just up the wound count, maybe 3 each?

Wonder how GW will make them harder to kill than normal terminators guessing they will just up the wound count, maybe 3 each?

T5?
Better ++ save (3/4 up?)
Eternal warrior?
T6 1W?

Lots of options open there.

Going for T6 1W imo, similar to Wraithguard. 2+/5++ stays the same.

I'm I the only one who thinks the drills like like giant electric razors?

Angry Ron wrote:

That looks an almost implausible amount of work, you're completely hacking up the body and thinning the legs, removing the shoulders and then all the resculpting that goes along with it. Why spend the sort of money GW will charge only to totally rebuild the figure? You'd be better off buying any similar miniature and converting that, or making something from scratch. I don't get people paying so much for figures they know they'll have to completely cannibalise to 'fix' them. No wonder GW make money.

See, some people just like converting. I have converted every single model I own. I have an imperial guard army with around about 315 bodies and a Skaven army with around about 250 or so. I have converted each and every individual mook just because I like things to be personalized, unique, something I came up with. I dunno, that's just me. I've always been much more interested in the hobby.

Plus, I like a challenge

I'm very much the same, I'm up to around 90 marines almost all of whom are converted in some way.However, I'm not going to pick up something if I feel it needs fixing unless doing so would require minimal time and effort. Converting's fun, fixing isn't.

 Ratius wrote:

Wonder how GW will make them harder to kill than normal terminators guessing they will just up the wound count, maybe 3 each?

T5?
Better ++ save (3/4 up?)
Eternal warrior?
T6 1W?

Lots of options open there.

Going for T6 1W imo, similar to Wraithguard. 2+/5++ stays the same.

I'm guessing T5, 3 wounds, 2+ armor, 4+ invuln(iron halo), can fire 2 ranged weapons, and relentless.

Something like 65-70 pts each.

Recent codicies have played on str7 heavily however. t5 dosent mitigate that. T6 does somewhat.
GW trends can be predictable.
In addition Wraithguard are the new classic t6, 1W, 3+ save unit, I can see them modelled on that imho, with a ++.

I'd definitely go t5 w2...boadsides dont even get 3 wounds...

2+/5+ because it looks like a small dreadknight...who also didnt get an increased save for his size...just toughness and wounds.

Slow and Purposeful, Split Fire, Relentless, T5 2W has my money on it

 Alpharius wrote:

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
That BT artwork is cool. I'm really disappointed that BT are being rolled into the SM codex.

Don't be disappointed yet - all appearances so far are that their unique rules and squads are intact.

Maybe!

If it does turn out like this which it seems it is, I cant wait, keeping our uniqueness with rules etc plus hopefully getting the goodies of the rest of the armoury.

God that Templar cover is neat, feel annoyed I wont be buying it, would be impressive to have.

Angry Ron wrote:
Okay, another attempt at fixing the centurions

That looks terrible to me. Why not just use Terminator bodies and put big guns on them? It also doesn't make sense to put giant weapons on both the arms and the shoulders. Both would rely on the same stabilizer systems, making it highly unlikely that the suit would do anything but fall over after a few salvos.

At least with the torso set up, they would fire and recoil independently of each other. Furthermore, I don't want my models to look like copies of Tau or Battletech with the overused (and more illogical even than these) weapons on arms + weapons on shoulders. It's unoriginal. This is different (in a good way).

I like the current models. They shouldn't have too much movement in the pose, because they are supposed to be heavy, giant, but slightly mobile weapons platforms. I also know what they look like in 3-D, which helps.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Ratius wrote:

Wonder how GW will make them harder to kill than normal terminators guessing they will just up the wound count, maybe 3 each?

T5?
Better ++ save (3/4 up?)
Eternal warrior?
T6 1W?

Lots of options open there.

Going for T6 1W imo, similar to Wraithguard. 2+/5++ stays the same.

I'm guessing T5, 3 wounds, 2+ armor, 4+ invuln(iron halo), can fire 2 ranged weapons, and relentless.

Something like 65-70 pts each.

So essentially an Obliterator that has an additional wound, a better invulnerable save, and fires more guns every turn while costing 10 point less.

 Oaka wrote:
A... trying to put those chest launchers on the shoulders is pretty much impossible for the average modeler.

That sort of depends on how they attach to the model. It actually looks like it could potentially be a really easy conversion.

Without the vast weapon choices the Oblits have. But yeah, pretty par for the course with GW. Cause GW hates chaos

Just read on natfka confirming templars get access to rest of sm and there are 30 successor chapters in the codex and each chapter seems to have there own traits like salamanders being flamer gods which is sweet.

Templars also get their own fluff section etc. This is really awesome. Will be fun to be able to mix chapters with their unique traits. I wonder if its just the first founding and Templars who get unquie rules or if its all of the chapters in the book, definately pre ordering the codex. Cant wait.

 Davylove21 wrote:
Slow and Purposeful, Split Fire, Relentless, T5 2W has my money on it

Why would they do that when they can make them really OP like that eldar MC? T8 S10 I5 Jump infantry MC...

But seriously, they would have to have better durability then termies otherwise whats the point? Toughness of 5-6, Strength might be a 5, maybe 2-3 wounds, definately 2+ and 4-5++. Probably all of the special rules that termies have, too. Not trying to be rediculous but they'd have to be better than termines... Maybe, though this is probably a no, they might be MCs. There are smaller MCs out there. The Necron Spyder is a small model. I also think it would be cool if they counted the Dreadnought as a MC instead of a walker but I won't hold my breath for that. They did make the riptide and wraithknight into MCs and they are pretty much the same thing as dreadnoughts. But the fact that the DA and CSM drewads weren't MCs kills that dream.

Angry Ron wrote:
I'm I the only one who thinks the drills like like giant electric razors?

Probably, yes.

What they look like is a tricone drill...

What they don't look like is any sort of close combat weapon...

Angry Ron wrote:
I'm I the only one who thinks the drills like like giant electric razors?

I just laugh at the thought of running around with wood chippers strapped to my arms.
If that doesn't inspire fear, I don't know what would.

Angry Ron wrote:
I'm I the only one who thinks the drills like like giant electric razors?

Breaking News:
Any force containing assault centurions can't ally with SW.

 insaniak wrote:

Angry Ron wrote:
I'm I the only one who thinks the drills like like giant electric razors?

Probably, yes.

What they look like is a tricone drill...

What they don't look like is any sort of close combat weapon...

So the seismic fist from the Ironclad?

 Alfndrate wrote:
So the seismic fist from the Ironclad?

Is just as silly. More so, given that it's actually called a Seismic 'Hammer'

 insaniak wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So the seismic fist from the Ironclad?

Is just as silly. More so, given that it's actually called a Seismic 'Hammer'

At least the ironclad one looks cool, as pointed by many, these look like electric shavers...

 insaniak wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So the seismic fist from the Ironclad?

Is just as silly. More so, given that it's actually called a Seismic 'Hammer'

Shows how often I field those things Though looking at the Ironclad's hand, it does look more like a grimderp pneumatic hammer

I do think these things are quite dumb... if you're going to give me drills, just go whole hog just give me this:

The Centurions will most likely be on 50mm bases. An excuse for GW to reuse them!

UltraPrime wrote:
An excuse for GW to reuse them!

Sorry... but, what?

 insaniak wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:
An excuse for GW to reuse them!

Sorry... but, what?

Mounted Azog comes on a 50mm base.

UltraPrime wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:
An excuse for GW to reuse them!

Sorry... but, what?

Mounted Azog comes on a 50mm base.

Gah! You're right. 50mm base. Called it!

ClockworkZion wrote:

Bull0 wrote:
Don't really get all the people talking about them being 'loyalist obliterators'. They're way too big. Doesn't make sense.

The idea came out of the description of a Marine with multiple weapons in large bulky armor and the internet can never let a joke die, even if it doesn't fit completely (as the Centurians only share Lascannons with the Oblits. For those who don't know, Oblits only use energy weapons because they alter their body to fire them. When they spit plasma cannons shots at you THEIR BLOOD IS BURNING HOT PLASMA, the new suits obviously don't do the same thing).

Appears the Internet can never let an attempt at pedantry pass them by either...

 Zognob Gorgoff wrote:


The pic works fine. The op was correct neither scale looks right maybe they really are on mew 50mm bases maybe it GW way of slowing the proxies down a bit.

Lipped 50mm bases have been available for over a decade. Won't stop any 3rd parties at all. Besides, it's not really that hard to make a resin cast of a 50mm base.

UltraPrime wrote:
Mounted Azog comes on a 50mm base.

Fair enough. Guess nobody else was following the Hobbit releases closely enough to notice...

Toughness 5 would be a joke, they would need Iron Arm in order to stay alive, other wise 1 Leman Russ demolisher could wipe a squad of them with a single blast, or anything else thats strength 10 low AP for that matter.

If they were toughness 5 I would probably never take them unless they were immune to ID.