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Imperial Deceit wrote:
Mark of Nurgle also gives them FNP. It's probably their best mark.

It most certainly doesn't.

Termies with EW and 2W?
Possible?
Not a bad idea imho.

Imperial Deceit wrote:
Mark of Nurgle also gives them FNP. It's probably their best mark.

Pfft I wish, just T5.

I'm thinking the centurions will be classified as MC, T4, 3W. MC because GW is lazy and need to give them a way to fire multiple weapons (if not then the weapons will be twin-linked and no MC status) T4 because GW has set the bar on marines being T4 since practiclly forever. 3W will be the suit buff.

I'm guessing 2+ 5++ for saves.

I don't think Centurions should get Eternal Warrior. I think it's good that EW is rare.

A unit of what will probably be three MCs loaded with firepower, most likely a 2+ save, an invulnerable and multiple wounds, possibly able to deep strike, that have all got EW just sounds like too much. And of course the usual Marine rules like ATSKNF and Tactics. That's why I wouldn't be averse to giving them T5, there should be some things they can't shrug off.

 prowla wrote:
The Angry Super Mega Marine, now available in Angry Super Regular Marine sizes!

Reduced height by removing the belt, moved arms and feet closer to each other and shortened the hands.

That definitely looks MUCH better.

I believe I have been hoodwinked then. The guy here who mostly plays chaos has them with FNP.

I'm thinking the centurions will be classified as MC, need to give them a way to fire multiple weapons

Relentless? No need for MC rules then? Smash, Hammer etc?

Why not make them MC though? Everyone else is getting a new MC despite the fact that the Riptide really should have been a walker.

Imperial Deceit wrote:
I believe I have been hoodwinked then. The guy here who mostly plays chaos has them with FNP.

If he uses plague marines, they come with FnP

The more I look at the Centurions, the less bad they seem.
I'll only pick them up if their rules are good though... Maybe (dependin on price)

Actually excited about the AA rhinos, good to see the Hunter in 40k!

 Mr.Omega wrote:
I kind of like the shooty Termietubbies - but the first thing I'm doing if I get them is replacing those god awful helmets and heads and removing that absolutely idiotic leg plate. If I was a rich man I'd proxy Contemptor Dreadnoughts as them instead, but gah.

Its no worry though, I bet all the money in the world that Centurions of both kinds will suck.

That was exactly my thought. Anyone have any real idea the size difference between these travesties and the ultr-cool Contemptor? I think I call mine, 'Contempturions'.

The AA tanks are certainly a positive thing. I don’t think they really need two though; especially sense they have multiple flyers now. Although I am a little irked that every chapter has access to Stormravens despite the fact they are supposedly only found in BA and GK chapters.

Imperial Deceit wrote:
Although I am a little irked that every chapter has access to Stormravens despite the fact they are supposedly only found in BA and GK chapters.

Neither BA nor GK codex makes that claim.

I don't see how centurions couldn't be pretty much space marine canoptek spyders. I mean T6, S6, 3W and a MC for 50ish points probably isn't over the top.

Honestly Eternal Warrior would be good. T5, 2 wounds, Eternal Warrior, S5, 2 attacks, etc etc. Seems like thats what would fit. I doubt that will end up being the case though.

I'm more annoyed about Forge World blowing me off when I asked them about making the Storm Eagle available to the Blood Angels after Death from the Skies was released.

Is there any word on a price? I assume they will be gouging the price on this one. $75 for the standard. $200 for the limited. It will be at least $10 more than the usual book and have a few extra pages to justify it. Tell me I'm wrong.

 insaniak wrote:

Imperial Deceit wrote:
Although I am a little irked that every chapter has access to Stormravens despite the fact they are supposedly only found in BA and GK chapters.

Neither BA nor GK codex makes that claim.

I always saw it as a load of crap that made no sense. I bought a storm raven anyway, painted it in my marine colours then never used it. Not even DFTS gave me reason to take it out because ATM C:SM is so mediocre.

So I guess it's time for me to make my Blood Raven Army.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I don't see how centurions couldn't be pretty much space marine canoptek spyders. I mean T6, S6, 3W and a MC .

... And pooping out Scouts...?

Except that they are/were the only chapters to have them.

Here a short summary of pics and prices. Maybe a mod can add this to the first post and add "Pics in first post" to the title:

faeit212 wrote:Space Marine Codex
176 pages!!!!! $58
by Robin Cruddace
Cover pic is a close up Ultra Marine pointing forward into battle

War Zone: Damnos
by Phil Kelly
68pages $33

Space Marine Reclusiam Command Squad
$90
Includes Razorback 5 man command squad and a space marine chaplin

Space Marine Tactical Squad
10 models $40

Space Marine Sternguard
5 models $50

(...)

Limited Edition Space Marine Codex (online only) $115
500 copies only for each book (numbered endpaper)

1. Iron Hands
2. Imperial Fists
3. Ultramarines
4. Ravenguard
5. Salanders
6. White Scars
7. Second Founding Edition
Black Templar cover (with many chapter symbols vertically along right border)
Crimson Fists Dust Jacket

Chaplain, Captain (30$, plastic blister) and Librarian (30$, plastic blister):

Librarian:

Captain:


Centurions (3 for 78$):
Built as Assault Squad:

Built as Devastator Squad:


Space Marine Vanguard Veteran Squad (40$):




Space Marine Sternguard (5 for 50$)




Space Marine Stalker/Hunter ($65)
Stalker version:

Hunter version:

 warboss wrote:
Instead of power armor marines wearing power armor, they should have resculpted the whole line to truescale instead and made the marines look like the 8ft tall power armor steroid freaks they are.

But they aren't.

Marines are around 7', and cap out at around 7'6. The 'typical Marine' on the wallchart was 7' in armour. The current marines are true scale. The wacky ones are the Imperial Guardsmen, who were sculpted far too big when the Cadians came out back in 3rd edition. I don't know how big a Tau is meant to be, maybe they're off as well.

Eldar and Orks have similar heights to Marines.

 insaniak wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I don't see how centurions couldn't be pretty much space marine canoptek spyders. I mean T6, S6, 3W and a MC .

... And pooping out Scouts...?

Cherub Swarms...?

 insaniak wrote:

Imperial Deceit wrote:
Although I am a little irked that every chapter has access to Stormravens despite the fact they are supposedly only found in BA and GK chapters.

Neither BA nor GK codex makes that claim.

Actually the way they're mentioned in both is as specialities in the chapter.

The biggest reason people cry out about everyone getting stormravens is because at games day 1-2 years back several writers specifically said that the ravens were staying in those two chapters alone and everyone else was getting a different vehicle.

Oh wait GW lied to us? I may just die from the shock.

Well they did say at the last? Games day that Black Templar wont be rolled into the SM codex

but o wait look above

I can barely see it justified for GK because logically they have access to every peice of wargear. (Except our lucifer pattern engines) Although arguable the GK should never have been anything more then allies anyway.

Can we get thr OP updated? Its not that I dont like having to shift through pages and pages of chatter for images, but...

Space Marine Codex
176 pages!!!!! $58
by Robin Cruddace
Cover pic is a close up Ultra Marine pointing forward into battle

War Zone: Damnos
by Phil Kelly
68pages $33

Sorry Krooty, what is Damnos?

 carabine wrote:
Actually the way they're mentioned in both is as specialities in the chapter.

Except they're not.

GK simply mentions that they've had them a long time. BA mentions that they have a lot of them. No mention of nobody else using them, or of them being specifically associated with those two Chapters.

The biggest reason people cry out about everyone getting stormravens is because at games day 1-2 years back several writers specifically said that the ravens were staying in those two chapters alone and everyone else was getting a different vehicle.

This, I think, is where the misunderstanding started. There was never any fluff stating that the 'Raven was only for those two, just that the Devs had said that other Chapters would get other flyers instead. Obviously that plan changed somewhere along the line. My guess would be that either there was another flying transport planned but the budget ran out, or the Storm Talon didn't sell as well as planned.

I doubt it was an outright lie... just a change of direction. Which should be similarly unshocking to anyone who has been in this game for any length of time.

BTW what are these? Sternguard or new Tactical?

 Ratius wrote:
Sorry Krooty, what is Damnos?

A Warzone supplement. Warzones were first released within Apocalypse book.
This one features Ultramarines vs. Necrons, as in the "Fall of Damnos" BL novel.